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2200+ R.I.P..

magnux

Platinum Member
Ok, so I was putting my new heatsink on (Volcano 9+ Coolmod), and apparently chipped the core of my OEM XP 2200+ AIRGA. In a last ditch effort, I slapped on some Arctic Silver and prayed it still worked. Nope. System won't post. So, out of frustration I went to CompUSA and picked up a Retail XP 2400+ AIUCB today. Now if only I can be more careful.. *sigh* Expensive lesson learned.

Let's see how this baby OC's. 😀
 
Sorry to hear that magnux....Contrary to some I have argued this point with, the chipping and cracking of cores is still a problem even with some experienced users. Throw in newbies and the danger is there. I think AMD has been sloppy in not implementing a IHS cover like Intel, if not for heat transfer but for the protection of the fragile core. This is why oem only chips and 15-30 day warranties are iffy IMO...NOtice how you don't see retail package as much anymore???

Good luck on the 2400+...Lets hope you get it to 2.4-2.5ghz!!!🙂
 
Nah, I picked the 2200+ up from someone off this board. Besides, I'm fairly sure warranty isn't going to cover the cracking of the core. That's a user f-up. 🙂

I've got the 2400+ in, it's running excellent @ default. However, my temps are around 40C @ idle. I'm trying to figure out why.

Thermaltake Xaser A5000 Case w/ 5 80mm Fans
Thermaltake Volcano 9+ "Coolmod"
Arctic Silver 3

I'd sincerely hope my temps would be much lower, at least at idle. The only thing I can figure, is maybe my layer of AS3 is too thick.. but I know, for a fact, I used *very* little.
 
Funny, just ran Prime95 for 10 hours and my load temps are 43.2C. Idle is 40C. Only a 3.2C increase for load? Hrm.. is there something about these 2400+'s I'm not familiar with? 🙂
 
I congratulate you magnux on your morals. RMAing chips from user error is wrong. Hey, it could been worse.. you could have killed an AUICB 2400+ a week after you got it 🙁 (failed pin wrap trick)
 
Ouch, sorry to hear fella. Imagine you got your new 2400+ chip and fubarred that one up too eh, that'd be really sad.

Do the new AMDs come unlocked by manufacturer?
 
Those Volcano coolers are chip killers. It isnt the first time i hear something like this. These coolers are so heavy that can damage your CPU if you arent careful when installing. I guess we saw it happening in this case.

Stick to Globalwin next time.
 
Originally posted by: daywalker
Those Volcano coolers are chip killers. It isnt the first time i hear something like this. These coolers are so heavy that can damage your CPU if you arent careful when installing. I guess we saw it happening in this case.

Stick to Globalwin next time.

Lovely. No one told me that, I spent weeks racking my brain over which HS/F to get. I was set on the SLK-800 w/ Vantec Tornado. But, there's no way I can stand the noise, and this went on and on.. so I just said screw it, and got the Volcano 9+. Honestly, I don't think it's the "weight" of the HS that caused it to break, rather the design (or lacktherof) implementation of the HS clip. It's a real pain in the ass to get a hood hold on the HS while being able to clamp it down..

Believe me, I was sweating bullets when putting it on the 2400+. Heh. Once I tackle this heat issue (if it's even an issue), I'll see how it O/C's. I'll most likely wait till I get a KT400 board, because I don't feel like tinkering with this chip. 😀
 
I don't think it's the weight of the heatsink that damages the CPU. It's the spring tension from the clip that holds the heatsink on that creates so much pressure. I'd say 99% of the time, damage to the CPU core when installing a heatsink is due to improper installation. The heatsink should be set down flat on the core, not tilted AT ALL... one side of the clip should be hooked, and the other side should be carefully pushed down with a 4 mm flatheat screwdriver. This should all be done with the motherboard OUT of the case and laying flat on a solid surface so the motherboard doesn't flex. I normally put some of the styrofoam padding that comes on the bottom of motherboards when you buy them under the motherboard, then lay it on the computer desk... it cushions the PCB, but doesn't allow it to flex very much.
 
Right, if the clip isn't going down all the way, DON'T force it. Doing so will create a lot of tension and pressure on the core. Rather, if you have to, slightly adjust the height of the clip (if possible) or bend it downwards slightly. I'd rather it be slightly loose than being too tight. Take the time and do it right. Take it out once or twice after it's in place and look at the thermal grease and see if it's touching on all the right spots.
 
Originally posted by: daywalker
Those Volcano coolers are chip killers.

I was a technical newbie a few months back. I bought all my parts from reviews except from my Volcano 7+ and Id have to say it was my 2nd best purchase. That Volcano 7+ was the 1st ever CPU cooler that I had installed by myself, my dad did all my others.

I found it easy - I was more scared of scratching my motherboard when having to use the screwdriver on the clip.
 
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