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2200+ preserved fetuses found at deceased abortion doctor's home

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I can only assume he was planning on letting nutjobs like the OP and glenn "adopt" them, these anti-abortion people will probably pay big money since they think they're sacred. Or maybe he sells them to Catholic priests, which doesn't consider them to be real humans (and would be stuck in purgatory and not be able to get into heaven), to deal with their urges. Basically Catholic versions of fleshlights.
 
SlowSpyder said:
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Margaret Sanger - Wikipedia

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"After World War I, Sanger increasingly appealed to the societal need to limit births by those least able to afford children. The affluent and educated already limited their child-bearing, while the poor and uneducated lacked access to contraception and information about birth control.[110] Here she found an area of overlap with eugenicists.[110] She believed that they both sought to "assist the race toward the elimination of the unfit." They differed in that "eugenists imply or insist that a woman's first duty is to the state; we contend that her duty to herself is her duty to the state."[111] Sanger was a proponent of negative eugenics, which aimed to improve human hereditary traits through social intervention by reducing the reproduction of those who were considered unfit.[6] "



Also, it is historical fact that she spoke at a KKK meeting. I wouldn't have done that, but then again I am not a racist. She wished to stop birth of those that were "unfit."
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And much like you, she was against abortion. But she didn't speak at a Klan meeting because she supported them, she in fact denounced their racist cause. But she understood the concept that even people you find deplorable still need to hear your message sometimes. Much like how we all know you're unable to learn, but we still try to reach you and help you enter modern society.
 
SlowSpyder said:
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More Than 2,200 Preserved Fetuses Found at Property of Dead Doctor, Officials Say (Published 2019)

There was no evidence that medical procedures were performed at the Illinois property where the remains were found, the authorities said.
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abc7chicago.com

Family discovers 2,200 preserved fetal remains on Crete property of deceased abortion doctor

Over 2,200 fetuses were found earlier this week on the south suburban property of a deceased doctor who performed abortions.
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I always wondered what kind of human being would be an abortion doctor. But then again, throughout history someone has always had to be the executioner, the hangman.
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Hangmen and executioners generally can do their jobs with some sense of moral clarity, as they are following through with the sentence imposed by the justice system, right or wrong, on hopefully a man guilty of heinous crimes. If they accidentally kill an innocent man, it is first the fault of the state, not the executioner.

Abortion deliberately and needlessly kills an innocent human being. There is no possibility of a guilty party. Furthermore monstrous men like these revel in the bloodletting, and that is not unheard of in abortion doctors.

Please dont equate the two.
 
Atreus21 said:
Hangmen and executioners generally can do their jobs with some sense of moral clarity, as they are following through with the sentence imposed by the justice system, right or wrong, on hopefully a man guilty of heinous crimes. If they accidentally kill an innocent man, it is first the fault of the state, not the executioner.

Abortion deliberately and needlessly kills an innocent human being. There is no possibility of a guilty party. Furthermore monstrous men like these revel in the bloodletting, and that is not unheard of in abortion doctors.

Please dont equate the two.
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Oh, shut up.
 
Atreus21 said:
Hangmen and executioners generally can do their jobs with some sense of moral clarity, as they are following through with the sentence imposed by the justice system, right or wrong, on hopefully a man guilty of heinous crimes. If they accidentally kill an innocent man, it is first the fault of the state, not the executioner.

Abortion deliberately and needlessly kills an innocent human being. There is no possibility of a guilty party. Furthermore monstrous men like these revel in the bloodletting, and that is not unheard of in abortion doctors.

Please dont equate the two.
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Yea, I agree, I was just getting at people that actively kill other human beings as their job. But yes, you are correct, executioners were more like the hands of justice whereas abortion doctors are more along the lines of Josef Mengele.
 
Anybody who has ever been to a doctor or who was born in a hospital has either had his life imposed on or elected to apply his own conscious will to subvert natural processes and has thus sinned against God in the same way as mothers who elect to abort. Who lives and dies is either subject to human conscious choice or must live or die without any intervention with the will of God.

Pro life people are hypocrites who intervene in the natural course of events every day when it’s their lives at stake while denying the same choice to others. Who are they to say to others what conscious choices they are morally obliged to make. Clearly, when a pro life person extends their stay on Earth it is a moral sin. Such people are scum and worthless. Judge not or invite reciprocation.
 
Moonbeam said:
Anybody who has ever been to a doctor or who was born in a hospital has either had his life imposed on or elected to apply his own conscious will to subvert natural processes and has thus sinned against God in the same way as mothers who elect to abort. Who lives and dies is either subject to human conscious choice or must live or die without any intervention with the will of God.

Pro life people are hypocrites who intervene in the natural course of events every day when it’s their lives at stake while denying the same choice to others. Who are they to say to others what conscious choices they are morally obliged to make. Clearly, when a pro life person extends their stay on Earth it is a moral sin. Such people are scum and worthless. Judge not or invite reciprocation.
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Being born in a hospital is the same thing as being aborted in the eyes of your god. Got it Moonie. Is taking a life saving antibiotic the same as shooting someone to death, too?
 
Here's The story from 2016 on the hearing at which his license was suspended. He certainly seems to have been rather unprofessional in some of his medical practices, although he never lost a patient, and it's worth noting that the investigation into his practice was started at the behest of two right-to-life organizations.
 
SlowSpyder said:
Being born in a hospital is the same thing as being aborted in the eyes of your god. Got it Moonie. Is taking a life saving antibiotic the same as shooting someone to death, too?
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If the application of conscious choice is to be preferred over blind submission to the laws of nature a moral judgment has been made as to the appropriateness of that decision. Since, as in the case of abortion where there is only one conscious individual to make such a conscious decision, the morality of that right to all who exercise it with respect to themselves is automatically granted. It then becomes simply a matter of opinion as to whom and when that right to decide is given. Thus, to say that pro life people should not be given any right to consciously apply any consciously derived technique to sustain their lives, becomes a moral equivalent to banning abortion. Since pro live people are very active in denying others their rights, the moral choice to make illegal any conscious option they themselves might have to extend their lives through modern medicine, etc., makes perfect sense based on receprocity. Don't apply hypocritical moral judgments to others if you don't want them coming back at you.

When you suggest that killing another person is the equivalent of killing a fetus what you are not saying but should be saying is that you would do exactly the same thing by preserving the live on an unconscious being by destroying the rights of the mother to control her body. What is freedom if you have no control over self. It is slavery. That's the price you would exact for your moral faith. And so in that respect your morality isn't really moral at all. And this is why every secular court that abides by the will of the people will always rule against you. This is one big reason why conservatives try to pack the courts. Real courts, courts that reflect logic and reason, secular science and social justice, will never agree with your position. It's not only immoral but dangerous. You are simply morally undeveloped and selfish but have built an ego around the thought that you represent a truth that is nothing more than low level thinking.
 
Jaskalas said:
Your statement is not true at all.
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Curiously, all those laws came AFTER Roe v. Wade. Every last one of them.

Before the women's suffrage movement, abortion was completely unregulated and normal. Even the bible equates an pregnancy loss due to criminal assault to property loss and not human life.

Opposition to abortion started as a way to control women and directly correlates with the first women's suffrage movements in the 1800s. Before that NO western or Christian nation had any laws or regulations on termination of pregnancies.

Once Roe V. Wade passed, states started making laws protecting fetuses is other ways to make a point with the end game being the outlawing of abortion and control of women's bodies.
 
Amused said:
Curiously, all those laws came AFTER Roe v. Wade. Every last one of them.

Before the women's suffrage movement, abortion was completely unregulated and normal. Even the bible equates an pregnancy loss due to criminal assault to property loss and not human life.

Opposition to abortion started as a way to control women and directly correlates with the first women's suffrage movements in the 1800s. Before that NO western or Christian nation had any laws or regulations on termination of pregnancies.

Once Roe V. Wade passed, states started making laws protecting fetuses is other ways to make a point with the end game being the outlawing of abortion and control of women's bodies.
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I'm sure the aborted female fetuses would agree... they wouldn't want someone else controlling their body, their lives.
 
SlowSpyder said:
I'm sure the aborted female fetuses would agree... they wouldn't want someone else controlling their body, their lives.
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They don't care. They can't feel anything. They are not human yet.

The vast majority of abortions, and virtually all elective abortions happen in the first trimester.

But keep making emotional pleas about "life." Because we know the only life you give a shit about is the unborn. Once they're born they can fuck right off.

Abortion opposition has always been about control of women. The emotional plea to life is a ploy.
 
Amused said:
They don't care. They can't feel anything. They are not human yet.

The vast majority of abortions, and virtually all elective abortions happen in the first trimester.

But keep making emotional pleas about "life." Because we know the only life you give a shit about is the unborn. Once they're born they can fuck right off.

Abortion opposition has always been about control of women. The emotional plea to life is a ploy.
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He will next tell us that overpopulation is the real problem, and having more unwanted births is the solution.
 
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