22 Megapixel camera released

[Koing]

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: Garth
That's great. Unfortunately, it doesn't change a thing about what I've said.

You said resolution is only a measure of pixel size. I said that is false. To demonstrate I explained that a 1pixel camera would never resolve more detail than a 22MP camera regardless of the size of the pixels.

The fact is there is no easy measure of "True" resolution. It's a combination of
[*]Pixels
[*]Pixel density
[*]Processing Algorithms
[*]Lens
[*] ISO (or gain)
[*] shooting conditions

The last 4 being equal, it's still a measure of a combination of the 1st two and not one or the other. Sorry.

And pixel size. Bigger pixels = more light reaching each pixel = better. But yeah kind of like pixel density though but yeah you meant this anyway

Koing

 

[mattocs]

what can the human eye see?

 

[ProviaFan]

What is happening is that one person has adopted an unconventional (as it relates to digital SLR terminology) definition of "resolution" (which would be correct if we were talking about scanners), and is arguing with those who use the normal definition of resolution in this context. Both are "right," but one is more appropriate and makes more sense. An example of the confusion that results: I could say that my Nikon D200 has more resolution than a Canon 1Ds MkII, or that it has less. At the same print size, the Canon will have an uninterpolated higher DPI (more resolution), but on the other hand the pixels will be larger (less resolution). In the terms that photographers usually talk, it makes more sense to refer to the latter specifically as "pixel density" in terms of signal to noise ratio and other factors, and leave "resolution" for talking about print quality et. al.

 

[chuckywang]

I can see the bumps on her arm!! I have never felt closer to a woman!!

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: ProviaFan
What is happening is that one person has adopted an unconventional (as it relates to digital SLR terminology) definition of "resolution" (which would be correct if we were talking about scanners), and is arguing with those who use the normal definition of resolution in this context. Both are "right," but one is more appropriate and makes more sense. An example of the confusion that results: I could say that my Nikon D200 has more resolution than a Canon 1Ds MkII, or that it has less. At the same print size, the Canon will have an uninterpolated higher DPI (more resolution), but on the other hand the pixels will be larger (less resolution). In the terms that photographers usually talk, it makes more sense to refer to the latter specifically as "pixel density" in terms of signal to noise ratio and other factors, and leave "resolution" for talking about print quality et. al.

I don't see how that relates to this discussion. True resolution depends on a lot more than pixel size no matter how you look at it.

 

[tfinch2]

I'll take quality pixels over quantity pixels anyday.

I'm not very impressed with those manufacturer's samples either.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: tfinch2
I'll take quality pixels over quantity pixels anyday.

I'm not very impressed with those manufacturer's samples either.

Huh? This camera would be a poster child for quality pixels.

Unless the mfg process is suspect, quality pixels = larger pixels. Show me a camera with larger pixels.

 

[jonessoda]

As a semi-pro-level amateur photographer with aspirations of going pro, I would so buy that Hasselblad if I could afford it.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Hubble >> *

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: tfinch2
I'll take quality pixels over quantity pixels anyday.

I'm not very impressed with those manufacturer's samples either.

Huh? This camera would be a poster child for quality pixels.

Unless the mfg process is suspect, quality pixels = larger pixels. Show me a camera with larger pixels.

I wasn't necessarily talking about this camera with that statement.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: chuckywang
I can see the bumps on her arm!! I have never felt closer to a woman!!

If you play your cards right, maybe one day you'll even meet a woman who will let you touch her arm.

 

[Saint Nick]

http://www.mamiya-digital.jp/camera/sample/portrait_a.jpg

link4lazy

 

[mrrman]

going to need some high capacity mem cards for that camera

 

[EightySix Four]

Originally posted by: jndietz
http://www.mamiya-digital.jp/camera/sample/portrait_a.jpg

link4lazy

Moll, bottom right hand corner of picture... Kinda gross at that res...

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: OBW96
what can the human eye see?

I think it is something like 250-300mp at any given 'view' but we 'focus' on about 30-50mp I think. There is a pretty good article about it somewhere. We also have 2 eyes that interpolate the image we get also. Fascinating stuff :thumbsup:

Koing

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: Garth
That's great. Unfortunately, it doesn't change a thing about what I've said.

You said resolution is only a measure of pixel size. I said that is false. To demonstrate I explained that a 1pixel camera would never resolve more detail than a 22MP camera regardless of the size of the pixels.

The fact is there is no easy measure of "True" resolution. It's a combination of
[*]Pixels
[*]Pixel density
[*]Processing Algorithms
[*]Lens
[*] ISO (or gain)
[*] shooting conditions

The last 4 being equal, it's still a measure of a combination of the 1st two and not one or the other. Sorry.

yup, and all digital cams cept those rare and buggy trilayer sensors have less actual pixel detail than their pixel count thanks to bayer filter http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/digital-camera5.htm
each sensor really only gets one color heh

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: OdiN
39MP Hasselblad

39MP PhaseOne digital back

yea those are crazy, they've been high mp for a while. some even have active cooling. studio only stuff.

 

[her209]

e-penis++;

 

[Mark R]

Originally posted by: OdiN
39MP PhaseOne digital back

A fine piece of equipment. A local dealer is selling these - they've actually got a special offer on - by a 39 MPix Phase One digiral back and get a free gift.

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The free gift is a Power Mac G5 Quad 2.5 GHz!