2100+ Tbred B (? -> yes!) at newegg for 92->101 dollars (1/14/03)

[Rushour]

AMD 2100 xp OEM Tbred is in stock again. & price drop too $100

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=&submit=Go&description=19%2D103%2D370

 

[EXman]

What is the OEM warranties???

and the 2100+ thoroughbred the same as the AXDA 1700+ and 1800+ that some people are getting the same results as the 2100+'s

 

[chizow]

Originally posted by: EXman
What is the OEM warranties???

and the 2100+ thoroughbred the same as the AXDA 1700+ and 1800+ that some people are getting the same results as the 2100+'s

I believe you can get another year from Newegg if you pay like $5 (???), otherwise it is 30 days. It gives you the option upon check-out. Some reports have come in with good results with stepping JIUHB, but JIUCB chips seem to be struggling even to surpass late-stepping T-bred A's. Right now, I think its still a gamble to get the 1700+ and 1800+'s as there may be JIUCBs still out there en masse.

As for your earlier post, I would think your mobo would be fine. T-breds are unlocked, and the 2100+ would give you a default multiplier of 13. All lower multipliers should also be available, so RAM permitting, you should have a flexible set-up to OC. Unless you have slower RAM like PC2100, its probably best not to flash and to stick with the 13x multis and lower.

As for the video card, the latest Tom's review and the AT article on the 9700pro done months and months before that indicate the GF4's don't scale as well with faster CPUs. From the AT article, it looks as if they plateau around the 1.8ghz mark. I'm sure you'll see some improvement, but the GF series is an already bandwidth limited card in comparsion to the Rad. 9500/9700 series. GF cards have relied heavily on clock and ram speed increases, where the Radeon 9700pros are data hungry chips that can use the extra bandwidth from the CPU.

Chiz

 

[Dug]

Thanks Rushour- They would probably be out of stock again if I relied on their automatic instock notice.

 

[EXman]

thanks chiz very informative post!

maybe i should stay put with my GF3 and Tbird?? my ram is pretty good it is Elixir chips 512mb of PC2700 that will go higher around PC3000 (i have some for sale to if anyone wants some)


hmm $5 for 11 months seems cheap. I am torn!!

think even a 9500pro would be better than a GF4? with a 2+ghz cpu that is

 

[MichaelD]

Well, I am at 200MHz (11.5x200=2300 even!) PIC (BTW, I've no idea why the pictures look so crappy once I post them..they look fine on my screen)

But all is not well. All SANDRA tests rock. 3DMARK goes w/o a hitch, but P95 keeps crashing. I'm currenlty at 2.77v memory at 1.8v CPU.

If you remember correctly, When I was at 12x185 all I needed was 1.650v to be stable. Now, my multi is lower and CPU speed is actually 30MHz less (negligible, I guess) so why is P95 still erroring? it errors out only about two minutes into the test.

What voltage should I up next? My timings are CAS2, 2-3-4.

 

[BigJ]

Did I mention I have 2 of these Athlon XP 2100+ AIUHB chips sitting on my desk in front of me?

EDIT: About to install one of 'em, wish me luck

 

[chizow]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
Well, I am at 200MHz (11.5x200=2300 even!) PIC (BTW, I've no idea why the pictures look so crappy once I post them..they look fine on my screen)

But all is not well. All SANDRA tests rock. 3DMARK goes w/o a hitch, but P95 keeps crashing. I'm currenlty at 2.77v memory at 1.8v CPU.

If you remember correctly, When I was at 12x185 all I needed was 1.650v to be stable. Now, my multi is lower and CPU speed is actually 30MHz less (negligible, I guess) so why is P95 still erroring? it errors out only about two minutes into the test.

What voltage should I up next? My timings are CAS2, 2-3-4.

Its your FSB and RAM timings. I lowered my settings last night to 14 x 174 (I think...comes out to 2422) and I'm thinking it'll be much more stable, esp. with my RAM. I won't know for sure til I get home though. Keep an eye on your voltages while running any tests and that'll give you an indication if it needs more juice or is drawing so much that you need to bump it. Try 1.85V and 2.7V

Chiz

 

[chizow]

Originally posted by: BigJ2078
Did I mention I have 2 of these Athlon XP 2100+ AIUHB chips sitting on my desk in front of me?

EDIT: About to install one of 'em, wish me luck

g'luck week # b4 u log?

Chiz

 

[MichaelD]

Thanks Chizow. I'm already at 2.77v for the memory. I'll bump up another notch to 1.825 and see what happens. Id on't understand why it would need more voltage though...I was at much less voltage with a higher multi yesterday.

BRB.

 

[BigJ]

Aight, booted fine at 166x13 and am running at 2.158ghz on 1.75v (automatically gave it more juice cause I dont like failure )

Gonna see how high I can take this before it'll stop posting, before it won't boot into windows, and then I'll report back here. Muahahahahahhahah.

 

[Dug]

How high do you think you can get with a slow 80mm fan and an slk-800?

Trying to decide if I should get an AMD water block to replace my p4 waterblock or go air cooling.

100Mhz difference isn't worth the hassle of water cooling to me.

 

[BigJ]

Note to self:

$6 heatsink != watercooling

Can't wait till I can get my reservoir back at 170x13 booted into Windows fine at 1.75v, going to see how much higher it'll go booting into Windows.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: Dug
How high do you think you can get with a slow 80mm fan and an slk-800?

I think some guys have been able to get 2.4GHz on a Panaflo L1A with that heatsink...

 

[Jen]

Originally posted by: BigJ2078
Did I mention I have 2 of these Athlon XP 2100+ AIUHB chips sitting on my desk in front of me?

EDIT: About to install one of 'em, wish me luck

one for me ?

 

[EXman]

no 4 me!

 

[BigJ]

Let me say this right now...a GC68 can't take the heat . Anything over 1.75v = CRASH! Gonna see if I can borrow a friend's
SLK-800. Why oh why did my reservoir have to break :frown:

 

[Jen]

Originally posted by: BigJ2078
Let me say this right now...a GC68 can't take the heat . Anything over 1.75v = CRASH! Gonna see if I can borrow a friend's
SLK-800. Why oh why did my reservoir have to break :frown:

go to your local home depot and get a electrical box and make it into a resevior . its what i have always used myself





Jen

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Jen

Originally posted by: BigJ2078
Let me say this right now...a GC68 can't take the heat . Anything over 1.75v = CRASH! Gonna see if I can borrow a friend's
SLK-800. Why oh why did my reservoir have to break :frown:

go to your local home depot and get a electrical box and make it into a resevior . its what i have always used myself





Jen

It's a darn Koolance system, so my options are limited, which is why I'm thinking about buying a totally new setup in a nice big roomy case. That or go back to some nice air cooling.

 

[Su1c1da1]

it's back!!!! and its $100 shipped! (for non californians only.............. grrrrr)

 

[MrEgo]

Ha ha.. yeah actually the processors were back on at 7PM EST, or 4PM PST. I got ahold of 3 of these beauties. One for me, one for my friend.. and one just to say I have another to spare. Not really, I'm going to use it in another computer that I'm probably going to put together next month. Had to get ahold of one while I still could.. at least while they are still $100

 

[Shimmishim]

all right all right....

i think it's time to buy one...

 

[Shimmishim]

okay... i FINALLY gave in...

bought one today... 2 day fedex shipping...

hopefully here by... thursday? maybe friday yay!!!

 

[Jen]

It's a darn Koolance system, so my options are limited, which is why I'm thinking about buying a totally new setup in a nice big roomy case. That or go back to some nice air cooling.

or a nice cube case that will fit everything in nicely. i am useing a old AT server case converted to ATX with home built water cooling




Jen

 

[BigJ]

Aight, just to let you know, I've been running Prime95 for about 2.5 hours at 166x13 and so far its nice and stable. Even looped 3DMark2k1 a few times while it was going on to try to crash it.