21 Things You Didn’t Know About In-N-Out

[Svnla]

Agree, disagree, don't care. Discuss.


http://www.buzzfeed.com/erinlarosa/things-you-didnt-know-about-in-n-out?bffb

 

[Newell Steamer]

11. In-N-Out has one of the lowest turnover rates in the fast food industry.

Something something entitled McDonalds employees something.

 

[PliotronX]

Something something entitled McDonalds employees something.

LOL that's right although INO employees are some of the best paid in fast food so it kind of figures.

 

[Newell Steamer]

LOL that's right although INO employees are some of the best paid in fast food so it kind of figures.

That exactly the point. A fast food place can pay its employees well and still be profitable and a success.

 

[bradley]

Poor fast food grunts don't realize that these delicate creations will soon be manufactured by an army of robots. Fucking robots!

 

[PliotronX]

That exactly the point. A fast food place can pay its employees well and still be profitable and a success.

Good point then, well played

 

[Sonikku]

10. A manager at In-N-Out makes at least $100,000 a year.

Wonder how much a McD manager does.

 

[bradley]

That exactly the point. A fast food place can pay its employees well and still be profitable and a success.

In-N-Out also manufacturers real food too. They make all the fries and press all the burger patties right on premises.

McDonald's scientifically manufactures their food to resemble something of which you are familiar, including taste, smell and texture. All of their money goes to scientists and advertising agencies with very little left over for the actual food ingredient or the grunts who serve them. Poor little ole Donald's.

 

[Svnla]

Wonder how much a McD manager does.

Not sure about McD but around here, Taco Bell had ads for Assistant Managers with salary of about $35K to $45K per year. I am pretty sure the Managers would not make $100K or more per year.

 

[justoh]

In-n-out employees speak english. Important for southern california. At least, if you're fussy and need to give any instructions.

 

[JulesMaximus]

LOL that's right although INO employees are some of the best paid in fast food so it kind of figures.

And yet the company still manages to make money and stay competitive. How is this possible? It flies in the face of the bullshit conservatives spew.

 

[PliotronX]

And yet the company still manages to make money and stay competitive. How is this possible? It flies in the face of the bullshit conservatives spew.

But then if everybody was paid the same as INO, it wouldn't be special and those seeking careers in FF wouldn't seek them out. There is a slippery slope about the idea of just flatly paying everyone the same. Any time value for work is artificially adjusted there are repercussions, it's common sense not a right v left issue.

 

[JulesMaximus]

But then if everybody was paid the same as INO, it wouldn't be special and those seeking careers in FF wouldn't seek them out. There is a slippery slope about the idea of just flatly paying everyone the same. Any time value for work is artificially adjusted there are repercussions, it's common sense not a right v left issue.

In-N-Out isn't artificially adjusting anything. They pay more because they want to retain good people and provide a superior product. There is no reason why other fast food retailers can't do the same thing and provide a better product and still be profitable... and, gasp, they may even make people happy and stimulate the economy.

I'm going to go to In-N-Out for lunch today and support their socialist agenda.

 

[Rakehellion]

Something something entitled McDonalds employees something.

Also, they don't use excessively processed food.

 

[Rakehellion]

But then if everybody was paid the same as INO, it wouldn't be special and those seeking careers in FF wouldn't seek them out. There is a slippery slope about the idea of just flatly paying everyone the same. Any time value for work is artificially adjusted there are repercussions, it's common sense not a right v left issue.

What the fuck are you talking about? Minimum wage hasn't kept pace with the price of goods. People working at McDonald's aren't trying to buy Ferraris, they're trying to pay rent.

 

[Exterous]

In-N-Out also manufacturers real food too. They make all the fries and press all the burger patties right on premises.

McDonald's scientifically manufactures their food to resemble something of which you are familiar, including taste, smell and texture. All of their money goes to scientists and advertising agencies with very little left over for the actual food ingredient or the grunts who serve them. Poor little ole Donald's.

The distribution system is more than a tad different. All Inn and Outs need to be within a days drive from a distribution center.

There is no reason why other fast food retailers can't do the same thing and provide a better product and still be profitable... and, gasp, they may even make people happy and stimulate the economy.

Yes because a chain with 290 locations is obviously an example of how a chain with 35,000 locations should work. Good luck locating a distribution center with in a single day's delivery radius of every single McDonalds on earth.

 

[PliotronX]

In-N-Out isn't artificially adjusting anything. They pay more because they want to retain good people and provide a superior product. There is no reason why other fast food retailers can't do the same thing and provide a better product and still be profitable... and, gasp, they may even make people happy and stimulate the economy.

I'm going to go to In-N-Out for lunch today and support their socialist agenda.

The artificial adjustment would be forcing other chains to pay the same as INO, then it would not be set apart from the rest therefore the workers would not be as happy working at INO unless they again raised wages against their calculated value of the labor. It may surprise you which way INO leans...

What the fuck are you talking about? Minimum wage hasn't kept pace with the price of goods. People working at McDonald's aren't trying to buy Ferraris, they're trying to pay rent.

They should do as I did when I worked retail and the pay was not sufficient. Get a second job and quit whining.

 

[bradley]

The distribution system is more than a tad different. All Inn and Outs need to be within a days drive from a distribution center.



Yes because a chain with 290 locations is obviously an example of how a chain with 35,000 locations should work. Good luck locating a distribution center with in a single day's delivery radius of every single McDonalds on earth.

Actually you're missing the entire point. In-N-Out *chooses* quality over quantity and is still turning a profit enough to pay their workers a living wage without *any* government interference. Let that sink in for a while. Again, they are making a conscious economic choice to have that fresh vs. frozen lab experiment distribution system.

Just like I make the economic decision never to use any contractors who employ day labors. I could easily drive myself to a local Home Depot parking lot and have handfuls of illegals spill into the back of my truck. Just as I can easily eat the crap McDonald's serves daily versus a fresh home cooked meal with whole ingredients. What a novel concept.

You may be getting a cheap product today, but you'll be paying a much higher price eventually.

Are you trying to tell me Bradley that American consumers and business owners still have choices that don't involve the lowest common denominator?? Yes I am dear average ATOT reader.

In-N-Out isn't artificially adjusting anything. They pay more because they want to retain good people and provide a superior product. There is no reason why other fast food retailers can't do the same thing and provide a better product and still be profitable... and, gasp, they may even make people happy and stimulate the economy.

I'm going to go to In-N-Out for lunch today and support their socialist agenda.

I was with you for the first part of your statement, until you injected politics into the equation. To call this socialism (pitted against some farcical conservative vs. liberal notion) is so f'n silly.

Free market capitalism may currently exist in a vacuum or bubble, but it still does exist in the minds and hearts of some. God bless the little bit of the America I love that still remains. Amen and hallelujah.

 

[waggy]

meh you guys compareing McDonalds to inandout are insane.

in-and-out serves far far higher quality. they aren't trying to make something "good enough" for $1-3.

Mcdonalds is about speed and cost (though they get so busy it takes as long as other places).

 

[WaTaGuMp]

1 big difference, In N Out is also not a public company with share holders.

 

[Exterous]

Actually you're missing the entire point. In-N-Out *chooses* quality over quantity and is still turning a profit enough to pay their workers a living wage without *any* government interference. Let that sink in for a while. Again, they are making a conscious economic choice to have that fresh vs. frozen lab experiment distribution system.

Actually you are missing the point I was making. I completely understand it is a choice that In-N-Out burger makes. However, In-N-Out should not be used as a direct example of how a large burger chain (Lets say McDonalds) can offer a higher quality product yet this is what was done. This is not to say they can't provide some better quality but to use a company of 290 stores that was built around the idea that they are all 1 day from a distribution center and then point to McDonalds or Burger King which are all over the place and say 'they can do the same thing' is absurd. There is no current way McDonalds can construct a distribution system mimic the distribution system that In-N-Out has in order to get the same quality.

Your blathering about choice and living wage has nothing to do with whether In-N-Out can be used as an example of what a company with 35,000 stores is capable of doing.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

A meal at McDonalds runs at about $8-9. A meal at In-N-Out is about $5-6. Just a little note, the most expensive item at In-N-Out would be their animal style fries.

 

[momeNt]

In-N-Out isn't artificially adjusting anything. They pay more because they want to retain good people and provide a superior product. There is no reason why other fast food retailers can't do the same thing and provide a better product and still be profitable... and, gasp, they may even make people happy and stimulate the economy.

I'm going to go to In-N-Out for lunch today and support their socialist agenda.

How is making less people work to a higher standard and higher wages better for the economy than having more people work to a lower standard and receive lower wages? It sounds pretty zero-sum to me. When everybody needs to meet a certain standard either through employment or a mixture of employment + government aid, it all adds up to the same number in the end.

 

[momeNt]

A meal at McDonalds runs at about $8-9. A meal at In-N-Out is about $5-6. Just a little note, the most expensive item at In-N-Out would be their animal style fries.

Sigh. Maybe try comparing the food in a price/oz metric before saying that In and Out is actually cheaper than McDonald's....

 

[bradley]

Actually you are missing the point I was making. I completely understand it is a choice that In-N-Out burger makes. However, In-N-Out should not be used as a direct example of how a large burger chain (Lets say McDonalds) can offer a higher quality product yet this is what was done. This is not to say they can't provide some better quality but to use a company of 290 stores that was built around the idea that they are all 1 day from a distribution center and then point to McDonalds or Burger King which are all over the place and say 'they can do the same thing' is absurd. There is no current way McDonalds can construct a distribution system mimic the distribution system that In-N-Out has in order to get the same quality.

Your blathering about choice and living wage has nothing to do with whether In-N-Out can be used as an example of what a company with 35,000 stores is capable of doing.

Fair enough, but still missing the overall point.

You are underestimating the unique business model of an establishment like an In-N-Out. What you are mistakenly basing your conclusions solely on comparative size between INO and McDonald’s is actually the difference between a publically traded company and a privately held one.

Companies like INO and Chick-fil-A are actually extremely competitive with the McDonald’s of the world. In a truly free marketplace, without an avenue K or corporate welfare, I think both INO and CFA could be way bigger.

http://www.qsrmagazine.com/reports/t...age-sales-unit

2010 US Average Sales Per Unit *thousands*
1. Chick-fil-A $2,694.4
2. McDonald’s $2,400.0
3. Jason’s Deli $2,226.6
4. Panera Bread $2,220.0
5. In-N-Out Burger $1,924.0

I don't have access to current numbers, but that's pretty damn impressive.