21% of South Carolina are retarded bitter partisans

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highland145

highland145

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SphinxnihpS said:
I just watched a CNN interview of this guy. I'm sure he's good with numbers.
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Greene: I weighed the situation again and again and this pharmaceutical is a milligram short. Would you like me to prorate my payment or would you like to give a brother his due?
 
BoomerD

BoomerD

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21% of South Carolina are retarded bitter partisans
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Only 21%? I'd have thought the numbers would be MUCH higher.

It doesn't matter what side of the coin people are...bitter partisan is bitter partisan, and I'd bet the numbers are more likely in the mid-40% if not higher.
 
CallMeJoe

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Throckmorton said:
...It basically proves what Republicans have been saying all along, that black Democrats (the primary voting base in SC) will vote for any black person...
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The only problem with that theory is your assumption that South Carolina Democrats even knew he was black when they pulled the lever. From what I can gather, only his personal friends and family knew much at all about Mr. Greene before the primary election surprise.



Al Greene... now if only Vic Rawl had been named Lou...
 
Throckmorton

Throckmorton

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CallMeJoe said:
The only problem with that theory is your assumption that South Carolina Democrats even knew he was black when they pulled the lever. From what I can gather, only his personal friends and family knew much at all about Mr. Greene before the primary election surprise.



Al Greene... now if only Vic Rawl had been named Lou...
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Alvin Greene sounds like a black name. One lady who voted for him said she did because his name is similar to "Al Greene"
 
Fern

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Throckmorton said:
Can you come up with a better explanation? This is a huge embarassment to Democrats. It basically proves what Republicans have been saying all along, that black Democrats (the primary voting base in SC) will vote for any black person. That's why it's embarassing to us. I'm not sure why you'd want him to NOT be a Republican plant. If I planted a mentally disabled person and Republicans nominated him, I'd be shouting it from the rooftops (which isn't to say that proves they didn't plant him).

If not a Republican plant, maybe a Teabagger plant.
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Nobody knew he was black, there's no picture on the ballot and he didn't campaign.

And, no, you wouldn't assume that someone named Alvin is necessarily black. This is the South, there are plenty of Alvins, many are white.

To me it seems pretty obvious that because no one campaigned, those voting the straight Dem ticket just chose the first name. Why not? They knew neither listed on the ballot.

You still haven't made a case of why any repub would do that. Neither of the Dem candidates is expected to have a chance in the general election. So what difference does it make? Why give some guy $10K to run in a primary against another guy that's gonna lose the gen election anyway?

I live near SC (I get there local news broadcasts etc), from what I hear the Rawl's fellow is highly unpopular, perhaps Green winning was more a vote against Rawls.

I've also heard that when Green was discharged he got some sort of bonus/pay from the military and that's where the $10K came from. However, that could be speculation.

The whole "it was a repub plant" thing looks really stupid to me, particularly given a complete lack of evidence. it's was mid-term primary and not a lot of people pay attention to those. Turn-out is always low. So two candidates ran while not campaigning at all and someone is surprised at the result? Why be surprised?
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Another thing that's been bugging me - why is it illegal to show porn to someone who is an adult? (If a college student surely they are at least 18 yrs old). Jeebus, I've gotten porn popping up on pc while googling for mobo drivers. Is that a crime? was I victimized or something?

Fern
 
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cubby1223

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Here is a more logical explanation...

In South Carolina primaries if someone is running unopposed then he does not even appear on the ballet. The Democrats may have put a nobody in the race just to get Vic Rawl on the ballet for a little more name recognition & exposure. And come on, it's not like Rawl is a huge popular big-wig politician in the state, both candidates were relative unknowns and basically just a placeholder for the party against a near certain re-election for DeMint.

There is no strategic benefit of a Republican sabotage.
 
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dali71

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Pens1566 said:
He made the GOP congress-persons look ridiculous in their little town hall meeting without a prompter ... Bush wouldn't even dream of doing a town hall that wasn't scripted and in front of blood oath die hard fundy right wingers. For good reason though.
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I don't remember seeing that. Do you happen to have a link?
 
werepossum

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Thump553 said:
Recently? The David Duke fiasco was twenty years ago. He didn't "turn out" to be a member of the Klan, he proudly ran on that and his platform of racial purity from the beginning. You also recharacterize history-Duke won (as a Republican) a special election to the House of Representatives in 1989 despite national GOP leaders such as President George HW Bush endorsing his opponent. In 1990 he won the GOP Louisana primary to run for US Senate. The GOP did NOT as a party endorse and throw their support to the Democratic candidate-some GOP leaders and voters decided to vote for the Democratic candidate and he won, 54% to 44%.

Your blatant reconstruction to fill your partisan viewpoint is worthy of a Texas school book commission, but it is not honest.
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Thank you for that excellent example of The Big Lie. David Duke ran for President in 1988 - as a Democrat. He won the New Hampshire Democrat Vice-Presidential Primary that year (to be later followed by such dignitaries as Algore and John Edwards. Admittedly this is usually an election candidates try NOT to win; even if they are really running for veep they almost all insist it's all or nothing.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Hampshire_primary#Vice-Presidential_results
Later that year, after gaining no more traction, he switched to the revived Populist Party (or People's Party) and did no better. http://www.joincalifornia.com/party/Populist

Late in 1988 Charles Cusimano II (incidentally also a former Democrat) was appointed to be a judge and resigned his Louisiana state representative seat, forcing a special election in March '89. In December 1988 Duke changed his party affiliation from his life-long Democrat Party to Republican and narrowly defeated long-time Republican John Treen in the run-off election. Duke's winning message was preventing a property tax increase. Note that this is the Louisiana state House of Representatives; Duke NEVER won a national primary election except for the New Hampshire Democrat Vice-Presidential Primary in 1988. His sole win was the special state representative election in '89 - admittedly as a Republican, but only a couple of months after he switched from being a Democrat. (In fact all during his Klan days he was a proud Democrat. Robert Byrd anyone?)

Rather than defend his state House seat, Duke ran for the US Senate in 1990. He lost the Republican primary. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duke

In 1991 Duke ran for in the Louisiana gubernatorial race. He placed second in the primary, but as Edwards failed to win a majority there was again a run-off election. (ibid) Here are then-President Bush's remarks at the time. http://www.nytimes.com/1991/11/07/u...h-denounces-duke-as-racist-and-charlatan.html
Note that this comes from the New York Times. Here's some juice from the LA Times just after Duke's defeat. http://articles.latimes.com/1991-11-19/news/mn-219_1_david-duke

Here's former governor David Treen who, after being narrowly defeated by Duke for the Republican primary, endorsed the Democrat, Edwards. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Conner_Treen

Here's a little bit about Beth Rickey, the Louisiana Republican activist who investigated and exposed Duke's Klan ties and made sure everyone knew about them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beth_Rickey
(Fun party game: Anyone remember the Democrat activists who investigated and exposed
Robert Byrd's Klan ties? Yeah, me neither. For the consolation prize you can name any one of the Democrats who have excused Byrd's Klan ties.)

Another fun fact: Life-long Edwin Edwards had been indicted several times before that election and was in fact finally imprisoned - not the kind of man who is easily endorsed!

Duke went on to run for President again in 1992, this time on the Republican ticket. Unlike his '88 bid on the Democrat ticket he won not even a vice presidential primary. He ran again for the Senate in '96 and in '99 when Packwood was forced out, and for Congress in '99, all utterly without success. I particularly like the quote from Republican Party Chairman Jim Nicholson: "There is no room in the party of Lincoln for a Klansman like David Duke." Oh, for a similar stance from the Democrats for Klansman Robert Byrd!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duke#Political_campaigns

In fact, the only time Duke ever won anything nationally was in '88 - as a Democrat! Duke never left his roots in the Democrat Party, and was as rabidly anti-war as any left-winger. Check out this little number: "Why Cindy Sheehan was right." http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=17054_David_Duke_Digs_Mother_Sheehan&only
(Have to admit I haven't read it, every site hosting it is listed by WOT as unsafe.)

Your crow is waiting in the formal dining room, sir.

Crap, that took an hour! Now I'll be working all night. 1989 seems recent to me until I start trying to find things on line.
 
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highland145

highland145

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Fern said:
Another thing that's been bugging me - why is it illegal to show porn to someone who is an adult? (If a college student surely they are at least 18 yrs old). Jeebus, I've gotten porn popping up on pc while googling for mobo drivers. Is that a crime? was I victimized or something?

Fern
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FWIW:My understanding was that it was a locked/secured facility.

Yes you were victimized. Get a lawyer and a good mental counselor before you start seeing stupid people.
 
highland145

highland145

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What are they going to do? Change the election results? NAACP better be stepping up.
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Democrats in South Carolina are still wondering just what happened last week when they picked their nominee for U.S. Senate.
The easy winner in the primary was Alvin Greene, a cipher of a candidate who had no visible campaign. The losing candidate is protesting the outcome, and the state Democratic Party will hold a hearing on the matter Thursday.
Since the primary, Greene has done some TV interviews, but he's also hung up on a lot of reporters. He didn't respond Wednesday to e-mail and phone messages from NPR.
He did have a fairly gentle talk a few days ago with conservative radio commentator Mark Levin.
"I'm not focusing on campaigning," he said in the interview, which aired Monday. "I'm just going to stick with, you know, my, the issues that I'm focusing on." He listed jobs, education and justice.
"We have to be sure that the punishment fits the crime, and ... I believe that I am the best candidate for United States Senate."
Greene, 32, graduated from the University of South Carolina in 2000 with a degree in political science. He served in the Air Force and then in the Army until last August. Now he's unemployed.
Last November, Greene was hit with a felony obscenity charge. He got a public defender — a sign that he couldn't afford a lawyer.
Then, in March, he filed as a candidate. He had to pay $10,440 for a filing fee — and he did so by check.
"I saved it — I saved my — in the Army," he said about the money when he appeared on Levin's show.
Many Democrats say the money is a red flag. Rep. James Clyburn, the House majority whip, considers Greene a plant — a tool of dirty tricksters in a state famous for its alley-fight politics.
The watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington has asked for investigations by the Federal Election Commission and the South Carolina attorney general.
"All they'd have to look at is his bank records," says CREW director Melanie Sloan. "And if he had the $10,000, it was his money, well, that's really case closed on that end. But if he didn't, then there should be further investigation into whether or not there were folks pulling the strings here."
South Carolina makes it a misdemeanor to induce someone or to be induced to run for office. The attorney general says he hasn't seen credible evidence of a crime. But there's little evidence of a campaign, either.
No stump speeches. No campaign office or phone. No website. No reports of any fundraising or spending. Certainly no TV ads.
The losing candidate was Vic Rawl, a former state legislator. He got clobbered by Greene, 59 to 41 percent.
On Wednesday, Common Cause and Voter Action asked South Carolina to investigate whether its voting machines were hacked.
A lot of people in South Carolina are asking: How did Greene win a hundred thousand votes?
"I have no idea. I mean I have no idea whatsoever," says Joe Erwin, a former chairman of the state Democratic Party.
"I've talked to maybe, you know, 50, 60, 75 people that I know around the state. And seemingly nobody knew anything about this guy, and nobody can tell me of anybody who voted for him, or supported him in any way whatsoever."
Whatever the outcome of Rawl's protest before the state Democratic executive committee, the Republican in the race, incumbent Sen. Jim DeMint isn't likely to suffer.
Something that can't be said for the state's political reputation.
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Thump553 said:
Recently? The David Duke fiasco was twenty years ago. He didn't "turn out" to be a member of the Klan, he proudly ran on that and his platform of racial purity from the beginning.
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Ok, I'm far, far from a Duke supporter. But he most certainly didn't run on a campaign of "racial purity". He renounced his former clan ties and tried to clean up his image during that time. I'm sure most of it was politcal expediency, but he surely didn't campaign on racial purification or any such nonsense. Please don't attempt to reinvent the past to suit your views.
 
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