204mph on the Autobahn

[michaels]

200+ mph is wreckless no matter how you try to spin it.

 

[alphatarget1]

Das ist schneller als ICE!

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: flexy
so...204mph is NOT reckless driving ???

Your arguments are bizarre....because assuming there is people going 55mph on the right, left lane there might be people going 70, 80 which are *already* going fast.

And now someone comes up going 204mph..on the SAME left lane..because left lanes are not unlimited Its still a risk even for the majority of the "faster" going cars which are already on the left lane. If someone going 80, the one going 204 is still 124mph faster and thats the relative speed he will come up to everyone else.

Did you even read my arguments at all? People in germany don't drive 55 on the areas of the autobahn that have no speed limit. We are talking 4, 5 and even 6 lanes (one direction so 8, 10 and 12 lanes) and not the usual 2-3 lane highways like in america. Even if there are people doing 55 they are going to be doint it the furthest right lane. Someone driving 204 is going to be in the furthest left, and the people in the next lane are probably doing well over 100.

There are very few areas of the autobahn left where there is no speed limit. And anyone who can't drive fast or doesn't have a car that can handle it aren't driving on the autobahn in those areas, trust me. We aren't talking about high traffic areas either.

 

[Mrfrog840]

Originally posted by: ebaycj

Originally posted by: Safeway
Wait, so these companies are encouraging this reckless driving?

Sure they are. What do you think the profit margin on a Porsche 911 Twin Turbo is?

 

[Rob9874]

Originally posted by: Safeway
Wait, so these companies are encouraging this reckless driving?

Why else would you make a car that goes faster than 120 mph? What need is there to give people the capability of driving faster than 120?

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: AMDZen
I can tell that most of you haven't done much reading about this. People there actually know how to drive, I know for American's this is hard to understand since most people here shouldn't even have a license at all. Its very hard to get a drivers license there, and you have to be 18 to get it. The testing is much more stringent then here in the states. Everyone gets a license here, and its as simple as opening a bank account.

People there know the rules, and if they're driving on the Autobahn they follow them, or they risk losing their life. They take it very seriously and they are paying attention at all times. Besides, only a few of the Autobahn's actually DON'T have any speed limit at all, a lot of them have been given speedlimits if within 20 or so miles of any city, and thats most of it. They also have many many camera's to monitor whats going on, and will give people a very harsh ticket in the mail if you are caught not following the rules, and if it leads to an accident it will be used in court as proof. If you are driving too slow and your doing it in the fast lane, you will lose your license like that and in a lot of cases never get it back. They have very strict traffic guidelines and punishments. This is why its still 1000% safer then the US, and we should learn by their example.

And to the OP, you make it sound like your from Germany or something, and yet you have no frikken clue whats really going on. You make it sound like its chaos and anarchy on the AutoBahn and yet its exponentially less so then any highway in America. I find it hard to believe you've ever even been there.

Originally posted by: MBrown
I wouldn't consider that reckless driving. They are driving in a strait line in the lane that they are supposed to go fast in. The people going slower stay in the slower lanes. Its as simple as that. Now if they were swerving in and out of the lanes purposely trying to get close to the slower cars then that would be reckless driving. And I don't see whats the big deal. Let the people who want their fast gas guzzlers have their cars and let the people with the hybrids have their cars.

QFT

Pfft AMDZen spouting off like he knows everything.

'Here in Germany'.

Implies he's there.

Implies he's not an idiot and wouldn't sound off unless he's experienced it.

Jeeze.

 

[21bUSA]

To receive your drivers license in Germany, you have to pay 1000 Euro (might also be 2000 Euro). On top of that, you must take a 3 month driving course. If you fail that, you loose your money and if you choose to, retake the course.

But for me, I only paid $10.00 and had a 3 hour class with 100 questions.

I assume why the Germans are such good drivers is only because of the course and the time and effort it took to pass it, as well as the money.

 

[KMFJD]

Originally posted by: flexy
http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/95975/204_MPH_On_AutoBahn.html

(Believe me, i used to live in the states...we do NOT have hummers or SUVs in Germany...bu NO speedlimit ?????? WTF... )

Also....imagine how it is if you drive on the Autobahn, and you always have to keep in mind there is a possibilty someone BEHIND you coming up with 204mph (that is MILES) in a blink of an eye....

I was in Munich for 5 days a couple of weeks ago and i saw a Hummer as well as numerous SUV's , yes they looked out of place compared to most normal cars there.

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: AMDZen
I can tell that most of you haven't done much reading about this. People there actually know how to drive, I know for American's this is hard to understand since most people here shouldn't even have a license at all. Its very hard to get a drivers license there, and you have to be 18 to get it. The testing is much more stringent then here in the states. Everyone gets a license here, and its as simple as opening a bank account.

People there know the rules, and if they're driving on the Autobahn they follow them, or they risk losing their life. They take it very seriously and they are paying attention at all times. Besides, only a few of the Autobahn's actually DON'T have any speed limit at all, a lot of them have been given speedlimits if within 20 or so miles of any city, and thats most of it. They also have many many camera's to monitor whats going on, and will give people a very harsh ticket in the mail if you are caught not following the rules, and if it leads to an accident it will be used in court as proof. If you are driving too slow and your doing it in the fast lane, you will lose your license like that and in a lot of cases never get it back. They have very strict traffic guidelines and punishments. This is why its still 1000% safer then the US, and we should learn by their example.

And to the OP, you make it sound like your from Germany or something, and yet you have no frikken clue whats really going on. You make it sound like its chaos and anarchy on the AutoBahn and yet its exponentially less so then any highway in America. I find it hard to believe you've ever even been there.

Originally posted by: MBrown
I wouldn't consider that reckless driving. They are driving in a strait line in the lane that they are supposed to go fast in. The people going slower stay in the slower lanes. Its as simple as that. Now if they were swerving in and out of the lanes purposely trying to get close to the slower cars then that would be reckless driving. And I don't see whats the big deal. Let the people who want their fast gas guzzlers have their cars and let the people with the hybrids have their cars.

QFT

Pfft AMDZen spouting off like he knows everything.

'Here in Germany'.

Implies he's there.

Implies he's not an idiot and wouldn't sound off unless he's experienced it.

Jeeze.

I'm an idiot because I know more about taxes where you live then you do, I know.

But thats beside the point because no where did I ever say "HERE IN GERMANY" jackass

 

[bwatson283]

In most states it is a law that the left lane is for Passing and Emergency only! If you get caught in the left lane "cruising" and people in the middle lane pass you, ticket time.

 

[brandonbull]

Originally posted by: flexy
so...204mph is NOT reckless driving ???

Your arguments are bizarre....because assuming there is people going 55mph on the right, left lane there might be people going 70, 80 which are *already* going fast.

And now someone comes up going 204mph..on the SAME left lane..because left lanes are not unlimited Its still a risk even for the majority of the "faster" going cars which are already on the left lane. If someone going 80, the one going 204 is still 124mph faster and thats the relative speed he will come up to everyone else.

You remind me of the asshats that drive at the speed limit in the left lane and refuse to move over. You don't get the fact you are a rolling roadblock and are forcing people to change lanes and speeds which can lead to accidents. "Look at me going 1 mph over the speed limit in the left lane. Screw that line of 20 cars tailgating me. I'm the rebel without a cause! Boo Yaaaaaaahhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

[Andrew111]

Traveling 204mph on the autobahn can be quite safe. The German police will tear you a new one if you are holding up traffic in the left lane. Slower moving vehicles will be ticketed if they are caught staying in the left lane unless they are passing a slower moving vehicle. If the police in the States would enforce a similar law it would be much safer as you wouldn't have to weave through slow moving traffic that likes to stay in whichever lane they feel like. Germans are much more disciplined drivers compared to the States.

To the OP: How long have you driven in Germany? I've lived here for about two years and I have not heard of any controversy about speed limits. If someone wants to drive their car 200mph, its their prerogative and it can be safe. The autobahn is much better than driving ANYWHERE in the States IMO......every day I drive to and from work averaging over 100mph and I feel safer driving here in Germany compared to driving in the States. The roads are much better, the drivers are disciplined, and the Polizei enforces traffic laws much better than the police in the States. And you wonder why they can get away with having no speed limits on the autobahn?

 

[21bUSA]

Dumb@ss me forgot to add this:


There is a "recommended" speeding limit for the autobahn. Its 130km/hr.

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: AMDZen
I can tell that most of you haven't done much reading about this. People there actually know how to drive, I know for American's this is hard to understand since most people here shouldn't even have a license at all. Its very hard to get a drivers license there, and you have to be 18 to get it. The testing is much more stringent then here in the states. Everyone gets a license here, and its as simple as opening a bank account.

People there know the rules, and if they're driving on the Autobahn they follow them, or they risk losing their life. They take it very seriously and they are paying attention at all times. Besides, only a few of the Autobahn's actually DON'T have any speed limit at all, a lot of them have been given speedlimits if within 20 or so miles of any city, and thats most of it. They also have many many camera's to monitor whats going on, and will give people a very harsh ticket in the mail if you are caught not following the rules, and if it leads to an accident it will be used in court as proof. If you are driving too slow and your doing it in the fast lane, you will lose your license like that and in a lot of cases never get it back. They have very strict traffic guidelines and punishments. This is why its still 1000% safer then the US, and we should learn by their example.

And to the OP, you make it sound like your from Germany or something, and yet you have no frikken clue whats really going on. You make it sound like its chaos and anarchy on the AutoBahn and yet its exponentially less so then any highway in America. I find it hard to believe you've ever even been there.

Originally posted by: MBrown
I wouldn't consider that reckless driving. They are driving in a strait line in the lane that they are supposed to go fast in. The people going slower stay in the slower lanes. Its as simple as that. Now if they were swerving in and out of the lanes purposely trying to get close to the slower cars then that would be reckless driving. And I don't see whats the big deal. Let the people who want their fast gas guzzlers have their cars and let the people with the hybrids have their cars.

QFT

Pfft AMDZen spouting off like he knows everything.

'Here in Germany'.

Implies he's there.

Implies he's not an idiot and wouldn't sound off unless he's experienced it.

Jeeze.

I'm an idiot because I know more about taxes where you live then you do, I know.

But thats beside the point because no where did I ever say "HERE IN GERMANY" jackass

Reading comprehension > you.

The original posted said here in Germany.

Asshole.

 

[Rob9874]

Originally posted by: brandonbull
You remind me of the asshats that drive at the speed limit in the left lane and refuse to move over. You don't get the fact you are a rolling roadblock and are forcing people to change lanes and speeds which can lead to accidents. "Look at me going 1 mph over the speed limit in the left lane. Screw that line of 20 cars tailgating me. I'm the rebel without a cause! Boo Yaaaaaaahhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!"

Don't get me started on those people!!!!

 

[Andrew111]

Originally posted by: flexy
There is a STRONG controversy here in Germany because this is just plainly RETARDED.

I really would like to know where you are getting this idea from(speaking out of your a$$ perhaps?).......I've lived in Germany for two years and I haven't heard anything about this controversy. And driving fast on the autobahn is far from retarded........the autobahn was made for fast driving and can be very safe going over 100mph.

 

[DarkThinker]

Originally posted by: flexy
http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/95975/204_MPH_On_AutoBahn.html

I wanna give a comment on that:

There is a STRONG controversy here in Germany because this is just plainly RETARDED.

Germany is a country where people are extremely obsessed with preserving energy, saving gas. A lot of Germans drive "Micky Mouse" cars, at least in the cities...means small cars with very low mileage for getting around and commuting.
Germany is the only country where potential customers from everywhere around the globe get invited by companies like Mercedes, BMW, Porsche etc.
Those people come from Japan or the US and then RACE the cars 200mph or more just to check how it is, because (of course they cant go faster than 55 where theyre from

So there is a huge agenda of car manufaturers to NOT enforce a speed limit, even if it goes against ANY common sense and logic. Then there is the other number of people who want to see a speedlimit...at one hand because of the RISKS (of course)...and then the fact that cars with such HP and speeds (IMHO) stand in big contradiction to the constant preaching of everyone here to preserve gas, get low mileage cars, preserver the environement etc.

(Believe me, i used to live in the states...we do NOT have hummers or SUVs in Germany...bu NO speedlimit ?????? WTF... )

Also....imagine how it is if you drive on the Autobahn, and you always have to keep in mind there is a possibilty someone BEHIND you coming up with 204mph (that is MILES) in a blink of an eye....

I don't know about you in Germany, but that's the sign that people here are usually starring at when I am blasting by them at 100+ MPH MPH on the turnpike

DarkThinker

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: AMDZen
I can tell that most of you haven't done much reading about this. People there actually know how to drive, I know for American's this is hard to understand since most people here shouldn't even have a license at all. Its very hard to get a drivers license there, and you have to be 18 to get it. The testing is much more stringent then here in the states. Everyone gets a license here, and its as simple as opening a bank account.

People there know the rules, and if they're driving on the Autobahn they follow them, or they risk losing their life. They take it very seriously and they are paying attention at all times. Besides, only a few of the Autobahn's actually DON'T have any speed limit at all, a lot of them have been given speedlimits if within 20 or so miles of any city, and thats most of it. They also have many many camera's to monitor whats going on, and will give people a very harsh ticket in the mail if you are caught not following the rules, and if it leads to an accident it will be used in court as proof. If you are driving too slow and your doing it in the fast lane, you will lose your license like that and in a lot of cases never get it back. They have very strict traffic guidelines and punishments. This is why its still 1000% safer then the US, and we should learn by their example.

And to the OP, you make it sound like your from Germany or something, and yet you have no frikken clue whats really going on. You make it sound like its chaos and anarchy on the AutoBahn and yet its exponentially less so then any highway in America. I find it hard to believe you've ever even been there.

Originally posted by: MBrown
I wouldn't consider that reckless driving. They are driving in a strait line in the lane that they are supposed to go fast in. The people going slower stay in the slower lanes. Its as simple as that. Now if they were swerving in and out of the lanes purposely trying to get close to the slower cars then that would be reckless driving. And I don't see whats the big deal. Let the people who want their fast gas guzzlers have their cars and let the people with the hybrids have their cars.

QFT

Pfft AMDZen spouting off like he knows everything.

'Here in Germany'.

Implies he's there.

Implies he's not an idiot and wouldn't sound off unless he's experienced it.

Jeeze.

I'm an idiot because I know more about taxes where you live then you do, I know.

But thats beside the point because no where did I ever say "HERE IN GERMANY" jackass

Reading comprehension > you.

The original posted said here in Germany.

Asshole.

As you have already proven, just because you live or have lived somewhere doesn't mean you know WTF your talking about. You don't even know how much you pay in taxes, and he doesn't know jack about his prior country's driving laws or the autobahn.

In his defense, he probably wasn't old enough to drive when he lived there, and perhaps still isn't. And for you, I'm sure you've never held a job or have any clue about the real world - so its understandable that you know jack about taxes. Especially since you have a rich jerk off cingular marketing exec for a father that is passing down the ignorance first hand.

 

[Kirby]

That is freakin sick car. I would kill for it.


Seriously. I would kill anyone of you.

 

[ViviTheMage]

is that mph or kmh?

love that freaking car though, wow.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: AMDZen
I can tell that most of you haven't done much reading about this. People there actually know how to drive, I know for American's this is hard to understand since most people here shouldn't even have a license at all. Its very hard to get a drivers license there, and you have to be 18 to get it. The testing is much more stringent then here in the states. Everyone gets a license here, and its as simple as opening a bank account.

People there know the rules, and if they're driving on the Autobahn they follow them, or they risk losing their life. They take it very seriously and they are paying attention at all times. Besides, only a few of the Autobahn's actually DON'T have any speed limit at all, a lot of them have been given speedlimits if within 20 or so miles of any city, and thats most of it. They also have many many camera's to monitor whats going on, and will give people a very harsh ticket in the mail if you are caught not following the rules, and if it leads to an accident it will be used in court as proof. If you are driving too slow and your doing it in the fast lane, you will lose your license like that and in a lot of cases never get it back. They have very strict traffic guidelines and punishments. This is why its still 1000% safer then the US, and we should learn by their example.

And to the OP, you make it sound like your from Germany or something, and yet you have no frikken clue whats really going on. You make it sound like its chaos and anarchy on the AutoBahn and yet its exponentially less so then any highway in America. I find it hard to believe you've ever even been there.

Originally posted by: MBrown
I wouldn't consider that reckless driving. They are driving in a strait line in the lane that they are supposed to go fast in. The people going slower stay in the slower lanes. Its as simple as that. Now if they were swerving in and out of the lanes purposely trying to get close to the slower cars then that would be reckless driving. And I don't see whats the big deal. Let the people who want their fast gas guzzlers have their cars and let the people with the hybrids have their cars.

QFT

Haha, what he said... :thumbsup:

Yeah, Zen hit the nail on the head.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Why are all these damned eco hippies and safety Nazis always trying to spoil the fun for everyone else? It's bad enough that they got the speed limit in Montana changed... now you're going after the Autobahn? :|

QFT

 

[ultimatebob]

Originally posted by: gerwen
I dunno, when he was at 175 plus, it didn't really seem like he was going past the van and trucks at 100+ mph difference. Not so sure i believe the speedo in that car.

That wasn't be speedo, that was a Garmin GPS he had the camera pointed at. Amusingly, that GPS is probably more accurate than the speedos in German cars... which tend to show the car going a few MPH faster than what it's really doing.

 

[RedArmy]

I'd do anything, ANYTHING, for a Ruf Porsche.

anything

 

[Vic]

The only problem here is that there is a populist movement in Germany right now to put speed limits on the Autobahn, and the OP is shilling for it.

In the meantime, the Autobahn is the safest freeway system on earth because it doesn't have speed limits.

But oh no, go ahead and use your arguments that speed is reckless, or that speeding is economically wasteful. It only exposes your faulty logic and doublethink, i.e. how could speeding be reckless unless most cars were NOT speeding, but then how could speeding be economically wasteful when (once again) most care are not speeding? Hey, you created this faulty logic loop, I'm just pointing out what a mindless brainwashed sheep you are to have bought into it.