2018 Midterm Election Results

[realibrad]

What do you consider "radical" about Trump? Opposing socialist health care? Wanting secure borders? Daring to be and advocate for America in our trade deals? Working towards denuclearization of NK? Expecting immigrants to go through the legal process to be vetted? Putting in two moderate judges to the SC?

What? Trump is for universal health care.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Trump is coming up to "congratulate" the winners, I'm sure.

When he speaks I wonder if his handlers will be able to keep him focused on teleprompters or if the "Modern Prometheus" will break his bonds of restraint and piss up a rope.

I'll make some popcorn.

 

[fskimospy]

What do you consider "radical" about Trump? Opposing socialist health care? Wanting secure borders? Daring to be an advocate for America in our trade deals? Working towards denuclearization of NK? Expecting immigrants to go through the legal process to be vetted? Putting in two moderate judges to the SC?

Come on man, you aren't even trying to be a good troll anymore.

 

[realibrad]

Trump is coming up to "congratulate" the winners, I'm sure.

When he speaks I wonder if his handlers will be able to keep him focused on teleprompters or if the "Modern Prometheus" will break his bonds of restraint and piss up a rope.

I'll make some popcorn.

He will say that the people he helped push won which shows how his message is the right one.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Come on man, you aren't even trying to be a good troll anymore.

I never was a troll. Can you answer what it is you find radical about Trump? I just don't see it, you made the claim. All I ever see regarding Trump from the left is faux-hysteria.

 

[dainthomas]

The control that the Dems have is slight. Power shifted, but, not by a huge margin. So slight bump seems correct.

Margins are an indication of voter feelings, but, what matters is who wins. Trump lost the popular vote, but still won.

This was a larger "bump" than what republicans got in 2010, but literally no one saw it as Obama winning. I wonder what the difference could be?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

It really doesn't matter until we know who the opponents will be. Let's say Hillary ran again...it would be an auto win for him. The dems need to really step up their candidacy game with someone mostly moderate to beat Trump.

What really needs to happen is either something needs found on Trump that makes him look very bad - with unquestionable evidence - or his name needs cleared. I can disagree with his policies and be okay about it if I don't feel he's dishonest AF. However, the guy just oozes BS and his actions and history speak of a man who has lots of illegal activity under his belt.

Hillary wasn’t moderate enough?
I’ll admit she had zero personality and did next to nothing to protect her reputation
Hillary being too progressive is crazy talk.

I say run someone far more progressive than Hillary.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Hillary wasn’t moderate enough?
I’ll admit she had zero personality and did next to nothing to protect her reputation
Hillary being too progressive is crazy talk.

I say run someone far more progressive than Hillary.

See my next post. Apparently I didn't word it clearly. That wasn't where I was going.

 

[realibrad]

I never was a troll. Can you answer what it is you find radical about Trump? I just don't see it, you made the claim. All I ever see regarding Trump from the left is faux-hysteria.

Define radical. Trump for sure is doing things very different from the typical.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

What do you consider "radical" about Trump? Opposing socialist health care? Wanting secure borders? Daring to be an advocate for America in our trade deals? Working towards denuclearization of NK? Expecting immigrants to go through the legal process to be vetted? Putting in two moderate judges to the SC?

Separating children from their parents at the boarder is pretty radical.

 

[SMOGZINN]

That will get turned into a positive for Trump.

"We want to do very good things. I try to do very good things, but the Dems, you know the Dems, they are always ruining things"

You would likely see the Rs push more things knowing the Dems will stop it.

He has been doing that anyway. With the Republicans controlling every part of government it has somehow been the Democrats fault that they can't get anything done.

 

[fskimospy]

I never was a troll. Can you answer what it is you find radical about Trump? I just don't see it, you made the claim. All I ever see regarding Trump from the left is faux-hysteria.

lol, no thanks. There's no need for me to take your bullshit seriously when it's clear you don't.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Trump is coming up to "congratulate" the winners, I'm sure.

When he speaks I wonder if his handlers will be able to keep him focused on teleprompters or if the "Modern Prometheus" will break his bonds of restraint and piss up a rope.

I'll make some popcorn.

Trump did call Nancy last night to congratulate her victory. He is assuming she’ll be speaker again.

 

[VRAMdemon]

It looks like Democrats are going to get approximately +7 percentage points in the popular vote totals. This will meet or exceed what the GOP got in 2010 with the Tea Party wave. It won't translate into the same number of seats due to gerrymandering, but it's still a small victory. The Affordable Care Act appears to be safe for now.

Having House Democrats trying to litigate the Russia investigation is problematic even if they produce some bombshells, because no matter what they release to the public, it will be viewed through the prism of politics. What I had hoped is for a serious body blow that would have forced Republicans in the House, the Senate, and the Legislatures to stop and say "Whoa, maybe it's time to think of getting off the corruption car on the Trump train." Not that I expected it, but the sobering reality is that it just didn't happen. So yes, the Dems can call for witnesses and tax returns, but it's not going to have the same impact.

I think the Democrats are going to have to wait for Republicans to make political mistakes and capitalize when they do. One of the first and most serious mistakes could be the lawsuit against Obamacare. Dems ought to be ready to pounce on that and make it an issue. That's going to cause millions to lose health care coverage, and it's going to piss voters off and more importantly, expose one of the most blatant lies that people somehow bought in this past election: that Republicans actually care about the issue of healthcare coverage. If they miss the opportunity to capitalize on that, because they're focused on trying to litigate the Russia investigation, that'll be one hell of a missed opportunity.

 

[fskimospy]

It looks like Democrats are going to get approximately +7 percentage points in the popular vote totals. This will meet or exceed what the GOP got in 2010 with the Tea Party wave. It won't translate into the same number of seats due to gerrymandering, but it's still a small victory. The Affordable Care Act appears to be safe for now.

Having House Democrats trying to litigate the Russia investigation is problematic even if they produce some bombshells, because no matter what they release to the public, it will be viewed through the prism of politics. What I had hoped is for a serious body blow that would have forced Republicans in the House, the Senate, and the Legislatures to stop and say "Whoa, maybe it's time to think of getting off the corruption car on the Trump train." Not that I expected it, but the sobering reality is that it just didn't happen. So yes, the Dems can call for witnesses and tax returns, but it's not going to have the same impact.

I think the Democrats are going to have to wait for Republicans to make political mistakes and capitalize when they do. One of the first and most serious mistakes could be the lawsuit against Obamacare. Dems ought to be ready to pounce on that and make it an issue. That's going to cause millions to lose health care coverage, and it's going to piss voters off and more importantly, expose one of the most blatant lies that people somehow bought in this past election: that Republicans actually care about the issue of healthcare coverage. If they miss the opportunity to capitalize on that, because they're focused on trying to litigate the Russia investigation, that'll be one hell of a missed opportunity.

The lawsuit against the ACA is going to lose so there’s really nothing to be done there.

 

[ch33zw1z]

What? Trump is for universal health care.

Trump isn't. It was fun to say that though during the campaign.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Define radical. Trump for sure is doing things very different from the typical.

Well declaring that by EO he has the right to disregard the Judicial Branch and what the Constitution must mean by fiat.

That's not just radical, it's a violation of his Oath of office and arguably sedition against our nation.

 

[fskimospy]

Trump isn't. It was fun to say that though during the campaign.

Yeah I’m not sure why people take obvious lies to be indicative of Trump’s policy positions.

 

[Sunburn74]

I never was a troll. Can you answer what it is you find radical about Trump? I just don't see it, you made the claim. All I ever see regarding Trump from the left is faux-hysteria.

Its be easier to list what is not radical about trump.

 

[ch33zw1z]

So, now I'm to understand that Trump isn't a radical "burn it down" choice for the GOP? This crazy train is run-of-the-mill? I'm getting the feeling republican voters weren't sincere about this.

 

[Starbuck1975]

I don't find this to be a compelling argument. Congress has a job to do and they need to start doing it. If it turns out that Trump is able to turn the revealing of massive corruption by him and his associates into another electoral victory then he was going to win anyway.

Let’s be honest. White collar corruption is too abstract for most voters to care and understand, and there is a distinction between spectacle and oversight.

 

[blackangst1]

Heh. Good one. Our politics are too divided to work together. All a split majority in the House and Senate means is that almost nothing is going to get done. Expect 2 years of Trump coming up with more and more desperate excuses on why he can rule by executive order as Congress is unable to pass anything that is not so watered down as to be useless.

Republicans better get their shit together and get an appropriations bill passed in December because if they push it off to January like they usually do the government is going to come to a screeching halt. There is no way a Democratic house and Republican Senate can pass an appropriations bill that Trump will sign.

Well, thats another way to look at it I suppose. Glass half empty.

 

[fskimospy]

Let’s be honest. White collar corruption is too abstract for most voters to care and understand, and there is a distinction between spectacle and oversight.

I suspect you will be shocked at just how easy it will be to understand. After all, this is a man who used his charity’s money to buy a giant painting of himself. He’s not a subtle man.

In fact my guess is in the end this turns into a scandal for the NYC attorney, the IRS, and the justice department with people demanding answers on how people got away with shit this obvious for years.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Well, thats another way to look at it I suppose. Glass half empty.

I see it more like someone shit in the glass and smashed it on the ground, now I'm standing barefoot in a swamp of broken glass and shit.

 

[K1052]

Looks like Tester has probably pulled it out.