2015 Mustang Ecoboost - Should I get the performance package?

[Yuriman]

Bigger radiator is not going to make any difference if you're just opening it up for a minute or two at a time. The track is probably the only place were it would make a difference, and even then I'm somewhat skeptical.

 

[Meghan54]

AMAZING.

I grew up in 1990-1995 and when my brother had a Plymouth Acclaim that got 200 HP I was amazed. Not the standard engine but an upgrade.

Now people get 200 HP as a matter of fact and they wonder if it is enough.

What a crock of shit.

Understand the sentiment, but what Acclaim ever got remotely near 200hp? Even the turbo 4-cyl. only cranked out ~150hp. The V-6....nowhere near, either.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Understand the sentiment, but what Acclaim ever got remotely near 200hp? Even the turbo 4-cyl. only cranked out ~150hp. The V-6....nowhere near, either.

Crap ... Just looked it up. Still 150 HP is a lot. People don't appreciate how powerful cars are these days.

99% of the time, they are using none of the power you paid for.

I will say that the super cheap cars can be dangerously underpowered. But any engine in a Mustang is more engine than anyone needs. I had a rental once a few years ago that I was scared to use to merge onto highway traffic because even when flooring it, it barely accelerated.

 

[thedarkwolf]

Understand the sentiment, but what Acclaim ever got remotely near 200hp? Even the turbo 4-cyl. only cranked out ~150hp. The V-6....nowhere near, either.

Dodge spirit r/t, same thing , came with a 224hp TIII turbo.

 

[exar333]

Bigger radiator is not going to make any difference if you're just opening it up for a minute or two at a time. The track is probably the only place were it would make a difference, and even then I'm somewhat skeptical.

Bigger radiator is always nice though, especially if the OP/buyer is in a really warm climate such as AZ, NM, etc. Definitely doesn't hurt.

Not that the OP likely plans to get a tune (since he/she is looking at a lease) but the 2015 EB has been shown to respond well to tunes, even on 87 fuel. 20-30% hp/tq gains (from stock) are common.

Oddly, it appears that stock dyno results vary GREATLY from vehicle to vehicle. I saw some results in the ~210/220 range and some closer to ~280hp/tq. That's a HUGE range....

 

[LTC8K6]

Dodge spirit r/t, same thing , came with a 224hp TIII turbo.

Yes, the Acclaim did not get a hopped up version, but it's brother did.

The Spirit R/T could get to 60 in under 6 seconds. It was right at the top of the list for fastest sedan in the US.

 

[pauldun170]

Dodge spirit r/t, same thing , came with a 224hp TIII turbo.

224 was plenty of power in that car.
Fresh off the showroom floor, those cars were ultimate sleepers. We're talking something that could trade blows with 300ZX's of the era.
It's about as fast the current VW GTI.
Until the corners come. Then its a squeaky, rattly guessing game of what the tires are doing as you work around the torque steer.

You'll just have to realize that "precision" is no where to be found in the cars vocabulary. Otherwise, they can be really fun project cars.

 

[pauldun170]

Yes, the Acclaim did not get a hopped up version, but it's brother did.

The Spirit R/T could get to 60 in under 6 seconds. It was right at the top of the list for fastest sedan in the US.

The SHO got a lot of accolades when it came out.
The Spirit whipped its ass in a straightline. I remember that motor in the Daytona Iroc. Pretty competitive with Mustangs and Camaro's of the era. However at that point in its life, the design was pretty stale. 5.0 Mustangs were also cheaper and were just more fun for general hoonery.

 

[Squeetard]

Ima say no to the upgrade. Not for a leased Daily commuter. The only thing you'll get from this is a rougher ride. If you like the rims, get those for $335.

 

[Elganja]

yes to the upgrades... insane value that will make your drive that much more fun

 

[monkeydelmagico]

yes to the upgrades... insane value that will make your drive that much more fun

If the commute has some rural or low congestion roads totally agree. If it's an urban/city crawl then no way. Base v6 is comfy.

 

[toomuchdogfur]

OP you sound like you don't know how leasing works. You really need to educate yourself before a dealer takes advantage of you.

currently the ecoboost mustang has a .75% interest rate with a 68% residual on a 24month/10k miles lease.

Sorry I need to clarify - my lease rates are a fair bit higher because I am a recent expat from Australia, so my effective credit rating is... 0.

Hence I can only get credit via expat financing programs. The total cost for a Mustang Ecoboost + PP lease (24m/12k) is $10,056 (quoted at 0.75% APR from Ford website) but the best quote I have gotten so far is $12,764.

Also the V6 + 050A equipment pack (which is largely cosmetic) would cost me $11,196 - that's $1.5k less in the lease for a $2k difference in MSRP, so I'm checking to see if there's a similar difference if I drop the PP off the Ecoboost (probably not... but lets see)

 

[toomuchdogfur]

If the commute has some rural or low congestion roads totally agree. If it's an urban/city crawl then no way. Base v6 is comfy.

In LA city, so it'll be a highway crawl lol.

Though I'm here with my fiancee and we want to explore, so there should be some nice longer drives to let loose on in between the usual DD.

 

[toomuchdogfur]

Bigger radiator is always nice though, especially if the OP/buyer is in a really warm climate such as AZ, NM, etc. Definitely doesn't hurt.

Not that the OP likely plans to get a tune (since he/she is looking at a lease) but the 2015 EB has been shown to respond well to tunes, even on 87 fuel. 20-30% hp/tq gains (from stock) are common.

Oddly, it appears that stock dyno results vary GREATLY from vehicle to vehicle. I saw some results in the ~210/220 range and some closer to ~280hp/tq. That's a HUGE range....

In Los Angeles, LA - it's going to be 86 degrees today and it's not even summer yet

Probably not tuning... as you mentioned its a lease, and also would like to retain decent MPG as it is doing DD duties

 

[michal1980]

Sorry I need to clarify - my lease rates are a fair bit higher because I am a recent expat from Australia, so my effective credit rating is... 0.

Hence I can only get credit via expat financing programs. The total cost for a Mustang Ecoboost + PP lease (24m/12k) is $10,056 (quoted at 0.75% APR from Ford website) but the best quote I have gotten so far is $12,764.

Also the V6 + 050A equipment pack (which is largely cosmetic) would cost me $11,196 - that's $1.5k less in the lease for a $2k difference in MSRP, so I'm checking to see if there's a similar difference if I drop the PP off the Ecoboost (probably not... but lets see)

Thanks for that extra info.

The difference from leaving the PP off the ecoboost should be the same.

On a lease you are paying the deprecation cost, plus interest.

So the PP pack should be costing you ~700 dollars over a 2 year period (2000msrp, *.67 residual =660 + some interest on that extra 2000 dollar loan)

Thats why I said you need to learn more about leasing.

Because getting a lease is just like buying a car, you should negotiate the selling price, then make sure you arent getting shafted on the money factor (interest).

the v6 has a slight worse residual then the ecoboost (-1%)

(all lease numbers per edmunds forum)

 

[Imported]

Yes, do it. You don't owe the full $2k on a lease.

 

[sgrinavi]

It sounds like a good value, unless you're not using it - then it's a waste of money.

With that said I'd probably get it.

 

[Denly]

Crap ... Just looked it up. Still 150 HP is a lot. People don't appreciate how powerful cars are these days.

99% of the time, they are using none of the power you paid for.

I will say that the super cheap cars can be dangerously underpowered. But any engine in a Mustang is more engine than anyone needs. I had a rental once a few years ago that I was scared to use to merge onto highway traffic because even when flooring it, it barely accelerated.

I grow up with car that have no bell and whistle. My first car w/ ABS&TS was a mid 2k Passat 1.8T and I hated it, I turn off TS every time there we hit by snow storm.

I wish someone has the balls to build a plain car(with only ps/pw/pd/ac/radio/aux) with 170 @ 2500lb. Updated version of e30?

Love the new mustang, wanted one but hate the interior. I did go for bimmer.

As for the package, 100% get it.

 

[McLovin]

The brakes alone are worth it. I consider being able top stop in shorter distances regardless of the vehicle, to be a valuable item.

I have the 4 piston Brembos on my 2012 and drove one with the stock 2 piston. Yeah night and day difference.

 

[michal1980]

The brakes alone are worth it. I consider being able top stop in shorter distances regardless of the vehicle, to be a valuable item.

I have the 4 piston Brembos on my 2012 and drove one with the stock 2 piston. Yeah night and day difference.

its mainly the tires, did both cars have the same set of tires?

The large brakes should last longer on the track having more heat capacity, and with more pistons have more uniform pressure on the disk

 

[Yuriman]

Can you really not lock the wheels (ABS aside) and stock tires with the stock brakes? I can understand bigger brakes to prevent fade, but it doesn't sound like OP is going to be using them in those kinds of situations.

 

[DaTT]

I wouldn't buy a mustang to begin with.

Just my two cents.

Glad you came into a Mustang thread to post this

OP, I would do it. Enjoy it while you have it.

 

[KentState]

The brakes alone are worth it. I consider being able top stop in shorter distances regardless of the vehicle, to be a valuable item.

I have the 4 piston Brembos on my 2012 and drove one with the stock 2 piston. Yeah night and day difference.

1-2 stops is not going to cause any fade in standard brakes and the difference in distance is mostly due to tires. You may be getting different feedback which gives the sense of a shorter stop.

 

[MongGrel]

Glad you came into a Mustang thread to post this

OP, I would do it. Enjoy it while you have it.

Still my two cents.

 

[DaTT]

Still my two cents.

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