2015 CFB Regular Season

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Childs

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So if the current #2 ranked team beats the #4 ranked team and then goes on to be undefeated, in your opinion, they can't get in to the playoffs? Ole Miss lost today so they have three losses (yet you evidently think they are better than 7-0 LSU and 7-1 Alabama) which throws your prediction out the window. So, what's your new prediction? You honestly think that Florida is an absolute sure win against either LSU or Alabama? Oh yeah, didn't LSU hand Florida their only loss of the season already this year?

My prediction, the winner of this game (LSU vs Alabama) wins the division and goes to the playoffs. Either you are biased towards Florida for some reason or you are an SEC hater just because the SEC happens to be the strongest conference in college football for quite a while now. You have some really good, even great, teams in other conferences but their conference usually aren't anywhere near as strong as the SEC.

I'm really liking Ohio and Michigan this year, can't wait to see who wins on the 21st.

No, Ole Miss winning out meant them beating LSU (they play later in the year). Things obviously changed today, but Ole Miss, LSU and Alabama are in the same division (East West). Before today Alabama and Ole Miss had only one loss in division, and Ole Miss had the tiebreaker because they beat Alabama head to head. Florida isn't in the same division (West East), and they play the East West winner in the SEC title game.

I don't think a non conference champion will get into the playoff, and at most an SEC division winner could get in, as long as its Florida, LSU or Alabama. Ole Miss winning the division or conference probably wouldn't make the cut, and probably would have torpedo'd the SEC's playoff spot.

What could be crazy is if Alabama loses a game, and then it would be just like today never happened. LSU has the division lead again, and Ole Miss would have the tie breaker over Alabama. Then Ole Miss would become relevant again and control their destiny if they could beat LSU.
 
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I think Bama earned the right to be #1 by having the best win so far.
Clemson drops to 2.
Ohio State stays at 3
OK State edges past Baylor for the 4.
 

Sulaco

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I think Bama earned the right to be #1 by having the best win so far.
Clemson drops to 2.
Ohio State stays at 3
OK State edges past Baylor for the 4.

Yeeeeeah, having the "best win" is kind of moot when you also have the worst LOSS.
 

JasonCoder

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I think Bama earned the right to be #1 by having the best win so far.
Clemson drops to 2.
Ohio State stays at 3
OK State edges past Baylor for the 4.

Interesting. AP just voted Clemson #1. Not sure how the committee will swing. The SEC media circle jerk seems to get the most respect so I wouldn't be blown away to see ALA shoot to #1.

I will say this: ALA showed up. LSU had a "forget about and just give him the trophy" back and an all world offensive line coming into that game. Not sure how much they were exposed vs. now awesome ALA is.

I think Ohio State stays in the top 4 but honestly I want them to fall to 6 :) Cue the "we don't belong, you aren't good enough" locker room chant from Meyer >:)
 

Sulaco

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Last year the team with the "worst loss" won it all.

That's not the same thing.

OSU squeaked into 4th after winning out the rest of the schedule and dominating the conference championship in unprecedented fashion.
Oh, and that's with each other team in the top 3 with a loss already.

Saying 'Bama "deserves" a number ONE ranking because of their quality win is silly, because of their poor quality loss.
That's not saying they don't deserve a playoff spot. I think they do. And if they win out they absolutely will get it.
But they don't deserve a #1 ranking either for that win.. It's exactly that kind of mindless bias the playoff system was supposed to eliminate.
 

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That's not the same thing.

OSU squeaked into 4th after winning out the rest of the schedule and dominating the conference championship in unprecedented fashion.
Oh, and that's with each other team in the top 3 with a loss already.

Saying 'Bama "deserves" a number ONE ranking because of their quality win is silly, because of their poor quality loss.
That's not saying they don't deserve a playoff spot. I think they do. And if they win out they absolutely will get it.
But they don't deserve a #1 ranking either for that win.. It's exactly that kind of mindless bias the playoff system was supposed to eliminate.

mindless bias? dafuq are you talking about. I fucking hate Bama. They deserve it because they are the best team shown so far, which is what the CFP committee is supposed to use.

Clemson squeaked past ND and FSU at home, and will face no other ranked teams. Bama has dominated Georgia, LSU, and A&M, two of those were on the road.
 

edro

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mindless bias? dafuq are you talking about. I fucking hate Bama. They deserve it because they are the best team shown so far, which is what the CFP committee is supposed to use.

Clemson squeaked past ND and FSU at home, and will face no other ranked teams. Bama has dominated Georgia, LSU, and A&M, two of those were on the road.
I agree.
Bama #1, OSU #3 - Because there is nothing I want to see more than another OSU win over Bama in the playoff. :)
 

Spineshank

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OSU lost to a bad VT team early. Bama lost to an Ole Miss team that is now decimated by injuries.

Also, there have been many years in the BCS era where an early loss team made its way back into the title game.
 

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OSU lost to a bad VT team early. Bama lost to an Ole Miss team that is now decimated by injuries.

Also, there have been many years in the BCS era where an early loss team made its way back into the title game.

Ohio State's loss last year was worse than Bama's loss this year, no doubt.

Not to mention that if we were going by losses instead of wins, ND would be in the top 4 and Bama would be out, not the other way around. Bama is ahead of ND in EVERY poll.

Also just remembered that 1-loss bama got the 1 seed last year, ahead of undefeated and defending champ FSU.
 

lupi

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Think the next top four will be Clemson, Bama, Ohio, and The Domers.
 

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BCS would be:

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Svnla

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Another week, another embarrassing loss for LSU. No championship of any kind this year, again. Les Miles is getting pay in the top 10 coaches range but does not deliver the result as a top 10 coach.
 
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Sulaco

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Fun stat: Les Miles is 27-3 the week after a loss.

ALL THREE of those losses were to Arky

So how's that "BEST WIN!" FOR Bama looking now? :whiste:


If they win out they'll deserve to be in the playoff, no doubt. What seeding...we'll see. But again, that "#1 ranking for having the best win" is looking sillier and sillier, and LSU's behind-the-woodshed moment shows why.
 

lupi

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At this point bama doesn't need a good win, baylor choked the big one and the entire top of the pac-12 throw up all over themselves.
 

Sulaco

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Amazing that Les could be coaching for his job. I guess the SEC West is like that.

What's funny is that if Saban is lured away to the Colts, Miles would be back to being pretty much the undisputed king of that division, arguably the SEC.

But according to most sources, it really has nothing to do with his Win/Loss performance (how could it, really?), but more to do with Miles' friction with athletic department and AD.

I'm not a fan of Miles really, I find him annoying. But I'd be curious who LSU would think would replace him and do a better job, considering the glut of HC positions open at the end of this season.
 

Svnla

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Amazing that Les could be coaching for his job. I guess the SEC West is like that.

Simple. Miles gets a top 10 salary among college HCs but did not deliver a top 10 product lately, especially after the huge debacle 2012 championship against Bama.

What's funny is that if Saban is lured away to the Colts, Miles would be back to being pretty much the undisputed king of that division, arguably the SEC.
Not true if Saban is gone and LSU will be the top dog. Not only Bama beat LSU 5 years in a row, Arkansas humiliated LSU last year (17-0) and did it again this year in double digit score. This year, LSU barely won against Miss St., barely beat an inferior Syracuse team, beat Florida by a trick play, beat inferior teams (this season) such as Auburn and S. Carolina. LSU is underperformed under Miles leadership for the last few years. He is not a bad coach but he is NOT an elite coach, not top 10, and not top 5 for sure. If LSU wants to compete for national championship, it will NOT be under Miles, especially with that stupid mindset/stubbornness/pathetic offense.

What a waste with all the talent. LSU has a top 10 recruiting class in the last few years. Players are sloppy with stupid penalties and discipline during games.
 
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lupi

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Still remember when LSU and Bama played their first basketball game after that and the crowd gave an ovation when LSU crossed the mid lone for the first time, absolutely hilarious.