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2014 NFL draft and offseason thread: your mock draft, team wish list, and more

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nm never go full retard

Solid advice. Someone should tell Jerry Jones that.

If you want to buy new season tickets you have to pay for a seat license. In our case my family's row would cost us about $18,000 on top of the season ticket costs.

So, we lost our season tickets where I could sit and oggle the cheer leaders instead of watching the Vikings lose. 🙁

Now technically you could sell that seat license along with your season tickets to someone else, but the chances of that happening after year 2ish is nearly impossible. So first year ticket holders are going to pay out the ass. Ohh well, I have good memories in the dome.

Buffalo is also one of the 3 teams left without PSL's. Thing is local government officials have already gone on record saying that "Buffalo" can't support the PSL concept. I wonder how that's going to pan out, since a new stadium will definitely be part of whomever buys the team.
 
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I saw a thing about the PSL's on the vikings subreddit ... guy had been paying $125/ticket for season tickets for 2 people = $2k/year. The PSL on his seats are $4500/seat plus the new ticket price is $400/ticket, that would put his total cost at $15,400 this year and $6400/year after that.

Let me tell you something ... I'm a huge a Vikings fan, but watching them on my 60" Panasonic plasma will do JUST fine.
 
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I saw a thing about the PSL's on the vikings subreddit ... guy had been paying $125/ticket for season tickets for 2 people = $2k/year. The PSL on his seats are $4500/seat plus the new ticket price is $400/ticket, that would put his total cost at $15,400 this year and $6400/year after that.

Let me tell you something ... I'm a huge Vikings, but watching them on my 60" Panasonic plasma will do JUST fine.

I sure hope that plasma is on your ship!

Seriously though, this new scheme is beyond retarded, especially when sitting at home is increasingly becoming a much better experience than watching in person. The NFL is already getting more expensive than the average person is willing to pay. How long before every game is locally blacked out due to nobody going?
 
I sure hope that plasma is on your ship!

Seriously though, this new scheme is beyond retarded, especially when sitting at home is increasingly becoming a much better experience than watching in person. The NFL is already getting more expensive than the average person is willing to pay. How long before every game is locally blacked out due to nobody going?

Hah edited that, not sure what happened there...

I don't know how long it will be, I thought I remember seeing something about them reducing reducing the percentage of seats that needed to be sold to avoid the blackout, but I also thought I saw something saying that number was going to be increased/reverted this year.

I don't think it will be a problem for a few years, everyone is going to want to check out the stadium at the very least. Plus, bringing in Teddy is going to help with sales in the short term. If he's good, it'll be a while. If he ends up being Ponder 2.0 (which I seriously doubt), it might only be a year or two before it's blackout time.
 
Rejoice though! In 2018, the Vikings will get their first Superbowl appearance in 40+ years! I mean, it isn't like they have a chance of sending a team there before that. >_<
 
So what you're saying is they're following the Dallas path to the Super Bowl. Build a new stadium, get a deal to host the Super Bowl, because your team won't sniff it in a long time.
 
Each team can seat the percentage of tickets needed to be sold to be considered a sell out for TV purposes but it has to stay the same amount for the entire year. I believe their is also some consequences which I don't recall but believe they involve affecting the portion of league wide money share/tv revenue the team gets back.
 
What happened to the rumors that they would be getting rid of the concept of blackouts?

NFL tickets are simply too expensive. It's insane. I thought it was bad when I had to pay $70 each + rape fees for nosebleeds in the Dome. Now it looks like attending a single game will require a small fortune.
 
So Marino throwing his hat in the arena and joining the Concussion suit vs the NFL.

Not really news when you read one of the articles that mentions that there's something like 300 active lawsuits currently pending against the NFL by active and former players regarding injury and medical issues.

I'm still telling you, 10 years from now the NFL will be played in those inflatable sumo suits.
 
If NFL was really worried about health of players they would test for more stuff and allow for bigger rosters and mj use and have more doctoral oversight of game time injuries. No surprise the big names are getting in on it. Guys like Brett Favre are having difficulty making sentences and remembering their kids names. The status Quo is more important to them and having people watch the draft was clearly a bigger initiative to them then actual player safety.

Now the NFLPA is complicit in this as well.
 
If NFL was really worried about health of players they would test for more stuff and allow for bigger rosters and mj use and have more doctoral oversight of game time injuries. No surprise the big names are getting in on it. Guys like Brett Favre are having difficulty making sentences and remembering their kids names. The status Quo is more important to them and having people watch the draft was clearly a bigger initiative to them then actual player safety.

Now the NFLPA is complicit in this as well.

Not exactly sure how the former helps, especially with the latter. :biggrin:
 
Sounded like this is a new separate suit, but not sure how far these different ones can go if the large one has already been agreed on by so many other players and the players association.
 
Not really news when you read one of the articles that mentions that there's something like 300 active lawsuits currently pending against the NFL by active and former players regarding injury and medical issues.

I'm still telling you, 10 years from now the NFL will be played in those inflatable sumo suits.

Actually, it's huge news when NFL legends like Marino and others have added themselves to the pending lawsuit because it adds way more credence to it. Thread created:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=36413837#post36413837
 
Actually, it's huge news when NFL legends like Marino and others have added themselves to the pending lawsuit because it adds way more credence to it. Thread created:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=36413837#post36413837

It's no bigger than the previous suit. The only difference is that instead of monetary compensation, they want continuing medical coverage by the league as compensation.

Like I said, it's yet one more suit to add to the growing pile that the NFL has. And you're just splitting hairs now about the whole "Well this thread has Dickerson in it" thing.
 
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I don't actually mind the continuing medical coverage to be provided.

Really though, I have little sympathy. If you seriously did not know collision sports like the NFL can cause lasting damage to your body, you're an idiot. You get paid millions of dollars to put your body up for public destruction.
 
I don't actually mind the continuing medical coverage to be provided.

Really though, I have little sympathy. If you seriously did not know collision sports like the NFL can cause lasting damage to your body, you're an idiot. You get paid millions of dollars to put your body up for public destruction.

I think it borderlines that stupid McDonald's hot coffee case. Granted in that case the coffee was "too hot", but still - in football you're putting on protective gear. Does the thought never cross one's mind as to why you're putting on a helmet?

At the same rate if the NFL knew for years that there was medical evidence that even with protective gear there was long term effects and they were sweeping it under the carpet, that'd be akin to McDonald's serving the coffee knowing that their coffee makers were brewing it too hot on purpose.
 
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I think it borderlines that stupid McDonald's hot coffee case. Granted in that case the coffee was "too hot", but still - in football you're putting on protective gear. Does the thought never cross one's mind as to why you're putting on a helmet?

At the same rate if the NFL knew for years that there was medical evidence that even with protective gear there was long term effects and they were sweeping it under the carpet, that'd be akin to McDonald's serving the coffee knowing that their coffee makers were brewing it too hot on purpose.

McDonald's did know their coffee was too hot though. That was the basis of the case: McDonald's was, due to using very low quality coffee, was heating it to excessively high heat to produce the desired smell.

The thing is, how many retired players have back problems or knee problems? I'd wager is it a pretty high number. Why? Because competing at that level puts enormous strain on those parts of the body. Why is it that the head is viewed as so different? You are colliding, with a great deal of force, into someone else repeatedly. We only care because "concussions are bad" and "my name is Favre and I can't remember my daughter's name; but, I can remember to herp derp and send some dick picks to women who aren't my wife" gets the media coverage. Nobody cares that Joe Blow used up running back can barely walk anymore due to knee problems.
 
McDonald's did know their coffee was too hot though. That was the basis of the case: McDonald's was, due to using very low quality coffee, was heating it to excessively high heat to produce the desired smell.

The thing is, how many retired players have back problems or knee problems? I'd wager is it a pretty high number. Why? Because competing at that level puts enormous strain on those parts of the body. Why is it that the head is viewed as so different? You are colliding, with a great deal of force, into someone else repeatedly. We only care because "concussions are bad" and "my name is Favre and I can't remember my daughter's name; but, I can remember to herp derp and send some dick picks to women who aren't my wife" gets the media coverage. Nobody cares that Joe Blow used up running back can barely walk anymore due to knee problems.

That was my entire point. I pointed out helmet. But shoulder pads, knee pads, thigh pads, cups, flak jackets, neck rolls, knee braces, ankle tape, etc.

Simply put you would not walk into the middle of a warzone without some sort of "protection" because why? Answer: You know your shit's going to get knocked around and you're going to get hurt.

I have sympathy for these guys, I really do. But they know what they're getting into up front. There's a reason a lot of their paychecks are 7 to 8 figures per year these days. They're getting compensated up front for that risk.
 
It's no bigger than the previous suit. The only difference is that instead of monetary compensation, they want continuing medical coverage by the league as compensation.

Like I said, it's yet one more suit to add to the growing pile that the NFL has. And you're just splitting hairs now about the whole "Well this thread has Dickerson in it" thing.

BS it is. An entire thread should be discussed on the future of the NFL now that major heavy hitters are joining the suit. Dickerson alone would be worthy of a thread, and now Marino? Yes, they're just suckass players who aren't household names. They don't elevate the suit to much higher visibility.

Summary: Have fun in your little "NFL RULEZ!" circle jerk and putting your fingers in your ears every time a new legend like Dorsett, Dickerson, Marino, or Butkus pops up with something shitty to say about concussions and football. The topic ain't going away anytime soon, no matter how many threads get locked.
 
BS it is. An entire thread should be discussed on the future of the NFL now that major heavy hitters are joining the suit. Dickerson alone would be worthy of a thread, and now Marino? Yes, they're just suckass players who aren't household names. They don't elevate the suit to much higher visibility.

Summary: Have fun in your little "NFL RULEZ!" circle jerk and putting your fingers in your ears every time a new legend like Dorsett, Dickerson, Marino, or Butkus pops up with something shitty to say about concussions and football. The topic ain't going away anytime soon, no matter how many threads get locked.

Nobody is putting their fingers in their ears or pretending it doesn't exist. Everyone is pointing out that these players know there are very real long term risks to being a professional football player. Cry me a river you have brain damage because you made millions a year getting tackled...
 
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