2014 Kindle e-readers with new Kindle Voyage 300 DPI!

Pheran

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Amazon has refreshed their line of Kindle e-readers with new or updated e-ink models.

Kindle - $79 - now touchscreen and 4 GB - releases 10/2

Kindle Paperwhite - $119 - looks to be unchanged this year - 212 ppi

Kindle Voyage - $199 - high-res 300 ppi display - releases 10/21

The Voyage is pricey, but I'm still drooling over it - I know what I want for Christmas now!
 
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Pheran

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I just realized that the Kindle Voyage actually has competition - the Kobo Aura H2O. Waterproof, larger 6.8" screen, $20 cheaper. It's 265 DPI, though it might have the same resolution as the Voyage, just less DPI because of the larger screen. I'll have to think about this a bit.
 

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I was gonna buy my wife a new back light Kindle for Xmas. I'm glad I waited to buy one with these new models out. I wonder if there is a noticeable difference with the Voyage and Paperweight?
 

destrekor

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I've had my Kindle Paperwhite for about 6 months now, I think... and while I love it, I have serious new product envy right now. [the 2nd gen Paperwhite was my first proper monochrome e-reader, and first Amazon device as well]

I'll be waiting a while, probably quite a while, before I actually buy one, but I'd love the sharper text and pressure-sensitive "buttons". I like that they aren't physical buttons to depress, and that they aren't technically touch sensitive either... seems the perfect win for design and usability decisions for this device size. I'd love that far more than actually reaching further in to tap or swipe the screen.

I wonder: can you constantly hold the device by the bezel with your thumb sort of resting/squeezing the page turn buttons, without them registering a press, and then squeeze harder to register a page turn?
 

mmntech

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$199 is definitely pricey for it. Especially since it still comes with ads baked in. The Fire HDX is probably a better deal.
 

Pheran

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$199 is definitely pricey for it. Especially since it still comes with ads baked in. The Fire HDX is probably a better deal.

The Fire HDX is not an e-reader. These are completely different classes of device aimed at different purposes; comparisons are not particularly meaningful.
 

destrekor

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$199 is definitely pricey for it. Especially since it still comes with ads baked in. The Fire HDX is probably a better deal.

I had a color "e-reader" - if you invest heavily in the digital magazine subscription market, it's worth it, and that's how I made use of my Nook Color at the time (also, rooted and ROM'd that sucker :D).

I can hardly stand reading long-term on digital displays, not if it is avoidable. I hate that marketable and competitive color e-ink and similar non-backlit color displays have not lived up to their promises just yet.

That's why I finally caved and got the one device I thought I'd avoid: a dedicated e-ink e-reader. Vastly superior if all you want to do is read novels, and to some extent, manuals or other textbook-type products like dictionaries or style guides (my particular "passion" lately)... that said, the ebook formatting for those nonfiction materials tends to be haphazard, very hit and miss. Some have good ways to getting around chapters, some lump the main section into one section, which makes navigation a nightmare. (Introduction, main section, glossary... nevermind the main section is 1000 real pages... would it kill someone to mark off navigation sections based on the alphabet or something? Yeesh. Think of it as the digital equivalency of the thumb-indexed approach.)


This is especially important for tech-fiends like myself. I'm often looking at a digital device of some variety far too often through the day and into the late evening. Having a device without backlighting (or self-lit, as is the case for OLED technologies), and the resulting overdose in the blue spectrum of lighting, has been a tremendous sleep aid for me. Staring at typical 5500K-6500K-calibrated displays means a great deal of blue spectrum is reaching the eye, which causes the brain to hold off on producing melatonin.
 

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http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2400277

We kinda started talking about it here already. But I'll probably ask for it during Christmas too. I like amazons store and I use their prime library enough, so I probably won't bother with the kobo.

I'm leery about going outside the Amazon ecosystem too, it would probably be a pain in the ass. That extra screen size is really tempting though - I wish Amazon had added that space to the Voyage, it would have made it much easier to justify the price.
 

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I just realized that the Kindle Voyage actually has competition - the Kobo Aura H2O. Waterproof, larger 6.8" screen, $20 cheaper. It's 265 DPI, though it might have the same resolution as the Voyage, just less DPI because of the larger screen. I'll have to think about this a bit.

ePub support, and not locked to Amazon? :)
 

Pheran

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ePub support, and not locked to Amazon? :)

Yes, but that has good and bad points. I'd no longer have the convenience of just buying a book from Amazon and having it appear. I'd have to download the ebooks, strip the DRM and convert them with Calibre to load them onto the Kobo.
 

destrekor

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Yes, but that has good and bad points. I'd no longer have the convenience of just buying a book from Amazon and having it appear. I'd have to download the ebooks, strip the DRM and convert them with Calibre to load them onto the Kobo.

And there's something to be said about picking up where I left off on a book, even when I either forgot to bring the Kindle, or didn't think I'd have a decent chance of reading, or otherwise got caught somewhere without my kindle but very much in the mood to read.

Just whip out the phone, and bam, you get the immediate option to pick up where you left off.

This, of course, does not work, if you forgot to take your Kindle out of airplane mode and suddenly had an urge to read on your phone while wasting time away from home. But that's my stupidity at fault, not Amazon's problem.
 

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Voyager + a Toshiba Chromebook 2 (13" IPS) would make a nice Christmas combo :thumbsup:
 

mmntech

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The Fire HDX is not an e-reader. These are completely different classes of device aimed at different purposes; comparisons are not particularly meaningful.

The Fire HD 7 is not an e-reader, but it can most certainly be used as one. It has the same screen size, is in full colour, and costs about the same. It's also significantly more versatile. Plus the tablet will be better for magazines and textbooks. It's a better buy unless you absolutely need the battery life, or can't read off an LCD. In that case, the vanilla Kindle would be plenty.
 

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The Fire HD 7 is not an e-reader, but it can most certainly be used as one. It has the same screen size, is in full colour, and costs about the same. It's also significantly more versatile. Plus the tablet will be better for magazines and textbooks. It's a better buy unless you absolutely need the battery life, or can't read off an LCD. In that case, the vanilla Kindle would be plenty.

Of course it can be used as one, but you are missing the point. See destrekor's post above, but the bottom line is that e-ink screens absolutely destroy LCD tablets for the purpose of reading novels. Yes, the LCD tablet is a more general purpose device, but for those of us who love reading, there is no substitute for e-ink. The e-ink devices fill a very specific niche, and LCD tablets are nearly irrelevant within that niche.
 

destrekor

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The Fire HD 7 is not an e-reader, but it can most certainly be used as one. It has the same screen size, is in full colour, and costs about the same. It's also significantly more versatile. Plus the tablet will be better for magazines and textbooks. It's a better buy unless you absolutely need the battery life, or can't read off an LCD. In that case, the vanilla Kindle would be plenty.

To be fair, the most basic Kindle offering will then have lower resolution, which means softer text. It also lacks the paperwhite reflective lighting solution, which is incredibly handy in low or no-light situations.
I have definitely made use of that feature, though I've never needed much additional lighting (at max, I've used level 5, of 20, perhaps I used the 6 or 7 setting once).

If you cannot justify it, say you are not an avid reader of novels, that's entirely fine. As I said, I could not justify it once for the longest while, not even the standard non-lit Kindle or other e-Ink offerings. Then I got tired of trying to make a multi-purpose device actually serve for every single purpose.

Many devices are CAPABLE of doing everything, but they rarely do everything perfectly. For reading, it's not as good on the eyes, and I've definitely noticed how much more pleasurable it is to read what appears to be printed text without getting bathed by a backlight.

The sharper text will be even better, and that, above all else, is why I do want the new Kindle Voyage, and the other added improvements help justify the added expense... albeit not entirely, I shall concede.
That text improvement will make it even easier to trick the eyes into the belief you are reading actual printed text, which, in the context of pleasurable reading on an e-Ink display, makes for a significant leap.
 

Pheran

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Ars Technica has posted a review of the Kindle Voyage, though there's nothing too surprising in it.

EDIT: Here's another review from Gizmodo.

In general, the sentiment is - yes it's very nice, but expensive.
 
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This. I have a the first gen Paperwhite myself. Even so it's tempting...

Ugh, I know. I haven't treated my paperwhite the best and it's starting to give me trouble. I don't want to fork over the money myself when it would make a great Christmas gift.
 

destrekor

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I can't justify upgrading from my 2nd-gen Kindle Paperwhite... not yet at least.

If the finance Gods permit and the finance heavens align, I'll make the upgrade at some point - the slight improvements would be enough to make the reading experience that much better, but at that cost, I can't justify it yet.
 

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That kobo looks awesome! Just the price....

I have an also 2nd gen kindle that still works fine. The backlight would be nice, but the waterproofing would be amazing! reading in the bath or shower without worry would be nice.
 

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I can't justify upgrading from my 2nd-gen Kindle Paperwhite... not yet at least.

If the finance Gods permit and the finance heavens align, I'll make the upgrade at some point - the slight improvements would be enough to make the reading experience that much better, but at that cost, I can't justify it yet.

I got the 2nd gen Paperwhite for $19 on one of Amazon's special deals for Fire owners. The new model looks sweet but the money would be better spent if I put it on a new laptop.
 

Pheran

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I have an also 2nd gen kindle that still works fine. The backlight would be nice, but the waterproofing would be amazing! reading in the bath or shower without worry would be nice.

OK, seriously, who reads in the shower??

I got the 2nd gen Paperwhite for $19 on one of Amazon's special deals for Fire owners. The new model looks sweet but the money would be better spent if I put it on a new laptop.

Yeah, that deal was amazing. If it had been available to me I would have bought the Paperwhite in about 13 seconds flat.