2014 GT-R is $99,950

[JackBurton]

no

I'll take an LF-A all day, any day over a GT-R. Numbers and specs don't tell the entire story.

 

[Ferzerp]

I view RWD as antiquated technolgy like a carburetor and drum brakes. I can't take a two wheel drive performance car seriously.

What a coincidence! No one here will take you seriously now either!

 

[madoka]

I'll take an LF-A all day, any day over a GT-R. Numbers and specs don't tell the entire story.

The more appropriate question is, would you take:

A) GT-R ($100K) and a Ferrari 458 ($230K) and BMW 335 ($45K)

or

B) Lexus LF-A ($375K)

If these were the only cars you could have, no rational person would pick the LF-A.

 

[ballmode]

You can still find used gtrs for 60-70k

 

[videogames101]

I'll take an LF-A all day, any day over a GT-R. Numbers and specs don't tell the entire story.

If we're talking about performance, the LF-A is not "head and shoulders" above the GT-R. Thats all I meant.

 

[Howard]

I feel like depending on the course, either RWD or AWD could be better. Higher-speed courses probably favor RWD more since you get lighter mass for a given amount of power.

 

[Pariah]

The more appropriate question is, would you take:

A) GT-R ($100K) and a Ferrari 458 ($230K) and BMW 335 ($45K)

or

B) Lexus LF-A ($375K)

If these were the only cars you could have, no rational person would pick the LF-A.

I have no problem being called irrational. When considering your "no one is ever going to be faced with this choice in real life" proposition. I'd take the LFA without a second thought.

 

[Aikouka]

You better believe it, all of the above are head and shoulders beyond the GT-R.

Are you talking price or performance ...or both? 😛 Every car that you listed costs at least twice as much as the GT-R, which is the whole point of the GT-R.

 

[MagickMan]

It was in comparison to the Corvette. Which is still clinging to its RWD configuration.

"Clinging"? RWD is what makes a sports car. The Carrera S was the 2012 Driver's Car of the Year by Motor Trend, beating out the GT-R and even the McLaren MP4, and there are very compelling reasons why.


http://www.motortrend.com/features/performance/1208_2012_motor_trend_best_drivers_car/viewall.html

 

[JackBurton]

The more appropriate question is, would you take:

A) GT-R ($100K) and a Ferrari 458 ($230K) and BMW 335 ($45K)

or

B) Lexus LF-A ($375K)

If these were the only cars you could have, no rational person would pick the LF-A.

I really don't think someone with the means to buy an LF-A has to make that choice. Now they may be left with the decision of Ferrari F12 Berlinetta (~$330) or Lexus LF-A (~$375). And in that case, I'll take the Ferrari all day long. But quite honestly, the person shopping for these cars most likely doesn't have to make a decision. If he couldn't decide, he'd probably just buy both.

 

[MagickMan]

Indeed. If a person is shopping for an LFA, they likely already have a stable of cars; 458, 12C, Aventador, etc.. They bought it for its exclusivity, not its track time. The McLaren crushes it in almost every conceivable performance metric, and is more comfortable, but there are 10x more 12Cs out in the wild, so it isn't as "special" to those types of collectors.

 

[Arkaign]

Are you talking price or performance ...or both? 😛 Every car that you listed costs at least twice as much as the GT-R, which is the whole point of the GT-R.

I was responding mainly to the idiotic comment that RWD meant that he couldn't take it seriously as a performance car.

The GT-R is really impressive for what it is, I have defended it numerous times over the years. I have also bashed the LF-A a bit for being poor value imho, but to say that AWD is the only performance car basis is just silly.

 

[Arkaign]

I feel like depending on the course, either RWD or AWD could be better. Higher-speed courses probably favor RWD more since you get lighter mass for a given amount of power.

True. With street tires, the AWD GT-R can get out of the hole really quick, and all but the very best ZR1 drivers would be dusted in a 0-60 run. Of course, these cars are overkill for 0-60 runs, and a 60-150 run would be dominated by the ZR-1. And on a track with racing tires, hahaha. You do need to be a very skilled driver to get the most out of a ZR-1. With a GT-R, the computers do a lot of the work for you. Whether or not that's a good or bad thing is a matter of opinion. I'll both admit that even with a ton of seat time pushing (admittedly far lesser) cars to their limits, I don't have the experience or skill to sit in a 600hp+ RWD car and do it justice, that would take some time, a couple sets of tires, a good teacher, and a nice track.