2013 C&D Lightning Lap

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overst33r

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That Camaro 1LE truly stands out. Good job GM on making a boat like that go around a circuit quickly.
 

LTC8K6

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All the cars in groups a couple seconds apart are probably within the margin of error for different drivers and different track conditions.
 

Arkaign

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F458 > LFA :D

Not like anyone didn't know that one already.

The new Lambo should give the F458 some sweat though, this list seems incredibly sparse.
 

Ferzerp

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I wonder how the GT500 would do with some better brakes. If I ever do anything to mine, that will be the first thing. It's the one thing that my old SRT did better. I know, that's pointless since the point of these tests is to test stock cars.

It's good that the ZL1 did so well. In most tests, it's been overshadowed by the Ford, but VIR would play to the ZL1's strengths and prey on the GT500's weaknesses (live axle (I think VIR has some bumpy turns?) and the 4 mile track means that the brake fade issue is going to be present on every lap, even if they start cool).
 

KentState

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I wonder how the GT500 would do with some better brakes. If I ever do anything to mine, that will be the first thing. It's the one thing that my old SRT did better. I know, that's pointless since the point of these tests is to test stock cars.

It's good that the ZL1 did so well. In most tests, it's been overshadowed by the Ford, but VIR would play to the ZL1's strengths and prey on the GT500's weaknesses (live axle (I think VIR has some bumpy turns?) and the 4 mile track means that the brake fade issue is going to be present on every lap, even if they start cool).

IMO, Ford should put the ZL1 Brembo's on the GT500 as part of the track pack or whatever they call it. Just pass the extra $500 on to the buyer and call it a day.
 

Ferzerp

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For reference, the old Ford GT got a 3:00.7 and the plain '06 Viper got a 3:01.6. What a difference 6 years or so makes.
 

ponyo

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For reference, the old Ford GT got a 3:00.7 and the plain '06 Viper got a 3:01.6. What a difference 6 years or so makes.

Yeah I remember when cracking 3:00 was a big deal. Now it's like no big deal and many cars are close. New Boxster S time really impress me. I have a soft spot for Boxster.
 

KentState

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Yeah I remember when cracking 3:00 was a big deal. Now it's like no big deal and many cars are close. New Boxster S time really impress me. I have a soft spot for Boxster.

In 10 years, the electric AWD family cars will be racing around their like the slot car games when we were kids. Tons of torque and grip with all the electronics to do whatever you want.
 

Dr. Detroit

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Yeah I remember when cracking 3:00 was a big deal. Now it's like no big deal and many cars are close. New Boxster S time really impress me. I have a soft spot for Boxster.

$88K for a Boxster S - this thing better have had the $8K Ceramic Brake option!

Love the new styling of the Boxster - Porsche got this one incredibly right in the looks department.
 

Arkaign

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$88K for a Boxster S - this thing better have had the $8K Ceramic Brake option!

Love the new styling of the Boxster - Porsche got this one incredibly right in the looks department.

I think you may have it confused with a Cayman?

http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/boxster/boxster-s/

MSRP $60k

Maybe you could option one out for an additional $28k? :D Nothing would surprise me with the Germans, but that $60k is the S model to start with, the base is a good bit cheaper still.
 

Pariah

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Says right there that the as-tested price was $88,585.

You can option one to well past $100k. The ceramic brakes and PDK transmission options are over $10k. To give you an idea of how you spend 6 figures on a Boxter S, you can get the bottom part of the side mirrors painted for $605 or how about the slats on the interior air vents painted for $1190 or maybe a carbon fiber/leather interior for about $9k.
 

Arkaign

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You can option one to well past $100k. The ceramic brakes and PDK transmission options are over $10k. To give you an idea of how you spend 6 figures on a Boxter S, you can get the bottom part of the side mirrors painted for $605 or how about the slats on the interior air vents painted for $1190 or maybe a carbon fiber/leather interior for about $9k.

Wow, I admit I had never looked into just how amazingly pricey they can get with the lowly Boxster :) I'd have a real hard time paying $100k for a Boxster no matter how cool it is, when the Cayman and 911 are on the table. $100k buys a mint 911 Turbo for god's sake, or a Cayman S PDK *new*.

Ah well, I guess a lot of it is purely optional nonsense.
 

Ferzerp

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I've seen some claims that there was a bit of a rain issue between when the LL2 class ran and the LL3 class ran. Curious if that is true or not.

I guess once they release some video we will be able to see (They've only released video for LL1 and LL2).
 

Drako

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LOL @ losing the key to the Focus :D I'm not even sure why they still included it in the test results.