2013/14 Shelby GT500 vs 2015/16 Shelby/SVT/Cobra/whatever?

Kadarin

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So... I'm entertaining the crazy thought of getting a new Shelby to go along with my Jeep SRT8, and I'm facing the dilemma of whether to go with the existing '13 or '14 style, or whether to wait and see what comes out for the '15 or '16 model. What do you guys think?

I think the '13-14 looks and sounds awesome and is incredible, but the new one will have IRS. We don't know at this point what kind of engine specs the new one will have, but the various fan sites speculate that there's a possibility that Ford may retire the Shelby name in favor of some form of Cobra SVT.

I'm not sure what I think yet of the new Mustang styling.

Thoughts?
 

RagingBITCH

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Depends on how bad you want a new toy. If you can wait 6+ months and don't mind paying a $10-20K premium (minimum, also depends on availability) for an overall better car on a new platform with IRS and probably better engine specs, ride, brakes, and handling, then wait for the new one. If you want that new toy now, get the 13-14. You could always get the 13-14 now, and sell it when the new one comes out, but the value will drop as soon as the new ones hit.
 

monkeydelmagico

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1st year of limited run high power fully redesigned pony car? No thanks, I'll pass.

The current car is a known quantity. If it meets or exceeds your expectations just wait until late summer for cash on the hood.
 
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JackBurton

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I'd get a '14 now, and pass on the newer model. I think the '14 just looks so much better than the '15. If you want IRS, I'd get a C7.
 

Elganja

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i personally would wait for the newer one... even if you decide NOT to get it, the leftover 14's will be very cheap when the 15's come out
 

JoLLyRoGer

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Get the new Stang.. my god there is a TON of new technology being put into that car. The S550 absolutely decimates the S197 platform in every way... The new suspension all around, the things they have done with the aerodynamics to help handing at high speed, the engine lineup. Ford is going all out to make this into a world class sports car.

However, that said, I'd wait until about 2018. Skip the Job 1 cars, all of the teething issues, and the "it's a brand new design and I've got to have it first novelty" tax that you'll pay to the stealership for the first one that arrives on the lot.
 
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Ferzerp

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As someone who has owned a '13 gt500 and now a c7, I can't really agree with these posts saying get a c7 if you're looking for the type of car a mustang is. They totally different types of cars. I'm not calling either of them superior to the other because they're really not appropriate cars to cross shop unless you just don't really know what type of car you want.
 

monkeydelmagico

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As someone who has owned a '13 gt500 and now a c7, I can't really agree with these posts saying get a c7 if you're looking for the type of car a mustang is. They totally different types of cars. I'm not calling either of them superior to the other because they're really not appropriate cars to cross shop unless you just don't really know what type of car you want.

yeah yeah, but if there could be only one in your garage it would be __ *


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MiataNC

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I spent last weekend at the Mustang 50th B-Day here in Vegas. Bouncing between Shelby America and the Las Vegas Motor Speedway. Total sensory overload...

They had a couple of 2015s on display. A silver GT and a blue 50th Anniversary Edition...The 2015 is amazing in person. If you are a fan of way Aston Martins look, then wait for a 2015. It's the perfect blend of Retro-Mustang and Aston DNA.

Personally I am not a fan of the solid Axle Shelby's when you add the race suspension parts. I think you would be crazy to pass on a 2015 with IRS.
 

Kadarin

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Good advice from you all... :) I think a wait and see attitude would be best here; hopefully whatever they come out with for the '15 blows the current car out of the water.
 

JulesMaximus

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yeah yeah, but if there could be only one in your garage it would be __ *


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I think he has already made that choice.
 

kevman

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Been up lcose and personal with a current body style gt500 and I have to say I LOVE THAT F-ING THING! It was black with gray stripes and had the meanest sound you could ever imagine. I don't think you could go wrong with the current style. the new style is nice but I am partial to the old one.
 

Alienwho

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As a previous owner of a '13 stang I'd wait for the new one. The interior of the current one is so dated and the steering wheel is too freaking big and ugly. I thought I would be able to get over that stuff but it ended up pushing me away. You spend most of your time inside the car on the steering wheel and when your number one point of contact with the car sucks so much it wears you down.
 

datalink7

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I have a 13 GT500 and the thing is a monster, and I think it looks great.

Be prepared to fork out another $1600 over the purchase price for new tires though, as the ones it comes with aren't very good except as track tires (but then it's nice to have a set of track tires).
 

Midwayman

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However, that said, I'd wait until about 2018. Skip the Job 1 cars, all of the teething issues, and the "it's a brand new design and I've got to have it first novelty" tax that you'll pay to the stealership for the first one that arrives on the lot.

That goes double for the low production performance models. It'll probably be years before you can get a reasonable deal one one. I'd just pick one up now and in 3-4 years you can get the new model with all the bugs worked out and a reasonable deal.
 

Throckmorton

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Wait for the new one. The S197 is now almost a decade old. And the solid axle is as old as the wheel... Literally
 

Wuzup101

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I personally like the new mustang more than the outgoing car (and in all honesty even the base GT mustangs are on my rather short "like" list). That being said, as at least one poster pointed out above, the interior on the new Stang will be much nicer than the current car (which isn't bad... hey I drive an Evo... the Mustang is pure luxury compared to my low rent interior).

The GT500 is badass, but in all honesty the S197 was NEVER designed to handle that much power. It's a hell of an engine in a Meeh... chassis. If I was into drag racing, I'd absolutely consider it. As a coupe daily driver with no functional back seats, I'd rather have a c6/c7 corvette than a GT500 (I don't consider the back seats in a mustang to be any different than the hatch in a vette as far as if they ever should be used for seats). If I were to buy a 2014 mustang, it would be a GT track pack (that I could add a supercharger too later if desired -- but again probably unnecessary). If I was considering used, it would be a Boss 302 w/ the recaro/torsen diff package. The Boss is well balanced.

I can't believe I just wrote a post about too much engine in a car... I'm sorry Ford... save the trinity (and put it in the 2015 raptor)!
 

Throckmorton

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I personally like the new mustang more than the outgoing car (and in all honesty even the base GT mustangs are on my rather short "like" list). That being said, as at least one poster pointed out above, the interior on the new Stang will be much nicer than the current car (which isn't bad... hey I drive an Evo... the Mustang is pure luxury compared to my low rent interior).

The GT500 is badass, but in all honesty the S197 was NEVER designed to handle that much power. It's a hell of an engine in a Meeh... chassis. If I was into drag racing, I'd absolutely consider it. As a coupe daily driver with no functional back seats, I'd rather have a c6/c7 corvette than a GT500 (I don't consider the back seats in a mustang to be any different than the hatch in a vette as far as if they ever should be used for seats). If I were to buy a 2014 mustang, it would be a GT track pack (that I could add a supercharger too later if desired -- but again probably unnecessary). If I was considering used, it would be a Boss 302 w/ the recaro/torsen diff package. The Boss is well balanced.

I can't believe I just wrote a post about too much engine in a car... I'm sorry Ford... save the trinity (and put it in the 2015 raptor)!

You're way off about the seats in the Mustang. I'm 5'6" and I can fit fine, which means most women can fit. I spent many hours driving around Texas with my friend and his 5'5" girlfriend in the back. Sometimes he even rode in the back slouched (he's 6'0")
 

Wuzup101

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You're way off about the seats in the Mustang. I'm 5'6" and I can fit fine, which means most women can fit. I spent many hours driving around Texas with my friend and his 5'5" girlfriend in the back. Sometimes he even rode in the back slouched (he's 6'0")

I'm 6'4" and while I've used (read: put other people) in the back seats of a 2+2 coupe before, it's not something that I would want to do. There is almost 0 leg room at all behind the front seats at the point where i have them adjusted in the mustang. That is a good point though, as I'm taller than the average male (so YMMV). I still wouldn't want to subject anyone to sitting back there for any length of time...
 

datalink7

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I'd say the back seats of my GT500 are pushing it for someone even 5'10". I had a 5'10" girl sit in the back and she had to slouch a bit.
 

Kadarin

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The GT500 is badass, but in all honesty the S197 was NEVER designed to handle that much power. It's a hell of an engine in a Meeh... chassis. If I was into drag racing, I'd absolutely consider it.

I did own a '12 GT500, and I do agree that the car has serious trouble putting the power to the ground. Even at "just" 550hp, first and second gear were both nearly useless if heavy on the throttle, and even when in third gear at higher rpms the tires would feel like they were ready to break loose at any second. I'd be buying the '13 or '14 just the sheer badassedness of it.

But the next model could be equally or more badass.
 

DaTT

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Are you sure that SVT is releasing a Cobra so soon after the new launch? They seem to have a habit of waiting a couple years after a new overhaul.