2011 Mustang V6 - 305HP-280TQ 18/29MPG 6MT 19/30mpg 6A

[LTC8K6]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/2011-Ford-Mustang-V6-Goes-prnews-1134011108.html?x=0&.v=1

Sounds nice. Seems like a Camaro beater.

 

[Bignate603]

Hmm, they made limited slip standard and both the manual and auto are both 6 speeds. If they keep the price down and the interior quality up its going to be a pretty tough car to beat.

 

[zmatt]

Still no independent rear suspension? I find 30mpg with 305hp hard to believe. It must be some crazy top gear for it to achieve that. You can bet that they can't do that with city mpg though. It's about time they got DOHC and Variable Valve Timing though. That's way overdue.

 

[CptCrunch]

as soon as they drop the 5.0 in it, it will be THE car to beat in the muscle car category. The thing that the domestics need to remember is that weight is a killer. Sure you have an engine that produces the same horsepower and torque as the imports, but when you have a few hundred more pounds on the imports, it doesnt do squat to move the car, or give good MPGs.

 

[PricklyPete]

Still no independent rear suspension? I find 30mpg with 305hp hard to believe. It must be some crazy top gear for it to achieve that. You can bet that they can't do that with city mpg though. It's about time they got DOHC and Variable Valve Timing though. That's way overdue.

Really? C'mon. I'm not Mustang fanboy, but must every thread about the mustang always go down the IRS path? I'm getting tired of hearing the argument.

 

[Gillbot]

Still no independent rear suspension? I find 30mpg with 305hp hard to believe. It must be some crazy top gear for it to achieve that. You can bet that they can't do that with city mpg though. It's about time they got DOHC and Variable Valve Timing though. That's way overdue.

The later 2000's model F-Body was rated somewhere around 30MPG with it's v8, but the gearing was atrocious. 2.73 rear for the auto, 3.42 for the manual, so it's not impossible to hit 30's with ~300 HP.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Still no independent rear suspension? I find 30mpg with 305hp hard to believe. It must be some crazy top gear for it to achieve that. You can bet that they can't do that with city mpg though. It's about time they got DOHC and Variable Valve Timing though. That's way overdue.

if you can tell the difference between IRS and solid rear axle, go ahead and complain. the truth is is that 99% of people won't be able to.

ZV has provided ample evidence showing that a solid rear axle is virtually no different than IRS in terms of handling.

also, DOHC is not the end-all be-all of engine tech, though I agree the upgrade to the V6 is long overdue. OHV engines tend to be lighter and more compact (Corvette Z06's LS7 vs BMW M5's V10, for example).

 

[LTC8K6]

No mention of Direct Injection. If they got 305 HP and 30mpg without that, then there is more HP and more mpg to be had from that engine.

Since the Camaro gets 29mpg, why is anyone surprised at a claim of 30mpg with a typically lighter car and newer engine and transmission?

 

[KentState]

Still no independent rear suspension? I find 30mpg with 305hp hard to believe. It must be some crazy top gear for it to achieve that. You can bet that they can't do that with city mpg though. It's about time they got DOHC and Variable Valve Timing though. That's way overdue.

That mileage should be easy on the highway. For thanksgiving, I took a trip from Atlanta to Cincinnati up 75 in my CTS and it achieved 29mpg. For comparison, the car is about 600lbs heavier, has AWD, 6spd automatic, and a 3.6L DI V6 with 305 hp.

 

[KentState]

if you can tell the difference between IRS and solid rear axle, go ahead and complain. the truth is is that 99% of people won't be able to.

ZV has provided ample evidence showing that a solid rear axle is virtually no different than IRS in terms of handling.

also, DOHC is not the end-all be-all of engine tech, though I agree the upgrade to the V6 is long overdue. OHV engines tend to be lighter and more compact (Corvette Z06's LS7 vs BMW M5's V10, for example).

I can tell the difference between the solid axle on a Mustang and lets the IRS on the on my GTO. It can make a difference, but for the vast majority of driving, it will not make a noticeable difference. I wish they would offer IRS, but honestly I'm stoked at a 3500lb car with 400 hp and 6spd costing somewhere around $35k nicely loaded. I would have never considered a Mustang in the past, but this has put it at the very top of my list.

 

[fbrdphreak]

This is a good step for the Mustang and will sell EVEN MORE V6's compared to V8's.

Frankly I'm still irritated at GM for making the Camaro such a pig. I guess they didn't bother trying to get the weight down, between not wanting it to compete with the Vette (ala 4th gen F-bodies) and that Dodge's cars are in the same weight range.

Now here comes the Mustang with matching power, comparable default options (FYI: LSD is not standard on V6 Camaro), and when the GT gets more power it will be ON.

 

[LordMorpheus]

I can tell the difference between the solid axle on a Mustang and lets the IRS on the on my GTO. It can make a difference, but for the vast majority of driving, it will not make a noticeable difference. I wish they would offer IRS, but honestly I'm stoked at a 3500lb car with 400 hp and 6spd costing somewhere around $35k nicely loaded. I would have never considered a Mustang in the past, but this has put it at the very top of my list.

There are a ton of times when I can tell that my lincoln has a solid rear axle.

That said, it never really bothers me, I'll just go over some rough pavement and feel the car get all squirrelly and know that my back wheels are rigidly connected to each other.

It'd be nice to have IRS, but I wouldn't trade the epic durability of my drivetrain for it.

 

[ElFenix]

You can bet that they can't do that with city mpg though. It's about time they got DOHC and Variable Valve Timing though. That's way overdue.

19/30 with the auto. a slushbox v6 camry gets 19/28, so the mustang is not at all behind cars with similar engines. the fusion with the 3.5 does 18/27, so ford has even bested themselves.

 

[exar333]

19/30 with the auto. a slushbox v6 camry gets 19/28, so the mustang is not at all behind cars with similar engines. the fusion with the 3.5 does 18/27, so ford has even bested themselves.

Valid point, but if the Mustang is geared like a Fusion or Camry there will definitely be some issues.

 

[yh125d]

They're finally giving the V6 a proper amount of power (and hopefully proper MPG as well if numbers are to believed), any word on the GT? I've been out of the loop on mustangs for a long time

 

[iversonyin]

MPG is f--king overrated. Who the f--k buy a muscule for for MPG?! Yea, that extra 2-3 MPG will make the diff. Like someone is crossshopping a Mustang and a Camry.

 

[DaTT]

MPG is f--king overrated. Who the f--k buy a muscule for for MPG?! Yea, that extra 2-3 MPG will make the diff. Like someone is crossshopping a Mustang and a Camry.

Agreed...my mechanic bought a Z06 last year and constantly people at the pumps ask him how good the mileage is and the such...his response is usually; "Who the fuck cares..."

 

[PricklyPete]

Agreed...my mechanic bought a Z06 last year and constantly people at the pumps ask him how good the mileage is and the such...his response is usually; "Who the fuck cares..."

While I would agree...people buying the V6 are much more likely to care.

 

[LTC8K6]

They're finally giving the V6 a proper amount of power (and hopefully proper MPG as well if numbers are to believed), any word on the GT? I've been out of the loop on mustangs for a long time

GT will have the 5L DOHC Coyote V8 and 6MT. Track pack will supposedly get Brembo brakes. No IRS though.

 

[Knavish]

The later 2000's model F-Body was rated somewhere around 30MPG with it's v8, but the gearing was atrocious. 2.73 rear for the auto, 3.42 for the manual, so it's not impossible to hit 30's with ~300 HP.

Wasn't it at ~1300 RPM at 60MPG in 6th?

 

[overst33r]

MPG is f--king overrated. Who the f--k buy a muscule for for MPG?! Yea, that extra 2-3 MPG will make the diff. Like someone is crossshopping a Mustang and a Camry.

It's their bread and butter. People WILL look at MPG. Especially the secretaries and poseurs.

 

[iversonyin]

It's their bread and butter. People WILL look at MPG. Especially the secretaries and poseurs.

I highly doubt that would be the deciding factor for people who crossshop V6 muscule cars. People who give a damn about 2 MPG are shopping for their effing PRIUS. Or Ford Fusion Hybrid, why look at a damn mustang?

 

[yh125d]

I highly doubt that would be the deciding factor for people who crossshop V6 muscule cars. People who give a damn about 2 MPG are shopping for their effing PRIUS. Or Ford Fusion Hybrid, why look at a damn mustang?

You're making the mistake in assuming mustang drivers (as a whole) are car enthusiasts who care only about performance and not MPG


But that doesn't describe mustang drivers. Particularly not V6 mustang drivers


V6 mustang drivers are rather often ging to be 16-32 males and females who want a "cool car", and think the mustang is cool, but want to keep 4 banger mpg. A generalization saying that V6 mustang drivers don't care about performance would be a more accurate generalization than saying that they do


Oh, and it's muscle car

 

[overst33r]

Oh, and it's pony car

Fixed.

 

[overst33r]

-25% improvement in fuel economy
-90hp increase over the old lump

Good job Ford.



Hyundai Genesis what?