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2010 VW Golf GTI production version revealed

http://www.motorauthority.com/...roduction-version.html

At last year?s Paris Motor Show Volkswagen unveiled a thinly disguised 'concept' of the Mark VI Golf GTI, the latest iteration of one of the most acclaimed hot hatches on the market. New shots released today show the concept car was in fact a doppelganger for the production model, right down to the fog lights and license plate holder.

As expected, the Mark VI GTI's styling remains similar to the outgoing model and is differentiated mostly by a new front bumper design. The last generation was purchased by 1.7 million people and it?s expected that the new model will do just as well, if not better. With both three and five-door versions available, it should appeal to a wider range of buyers looking for a sportier-than-average euro hatch.

The Mark VI Golf platform is the basis for the GTI update and, like its more mundane companions, the GTI is an evolutionary step forward. The performance hatch retains a 2.0L turbo engine but now develops 210hp (155kW), which is just 10hp (7kW) more than the outgoing model. Top speed is limited to 240km/h and the 0-100km/h benchmark takes just 6.9 seconds. Just as impressive is the engine?s flexibility. In fifth gear, the GTI accelerates from 80 to 120 km/h in 7.5 seconds, and even in sixth gear this feat takes less than 10 seconds.

This is because the engine has been tuned to ensure torque throughout the rev range, with the GTI developing 206lb-ft (280Nm) as early as 1,800pm. The low-end grunt also helps the car achieve an average fuel economy of only 31.6mpg (7.4L/100km), according to the European cycle.

Rather than adding lots power to their hot hatches, like most car companies do, VW has concentrated on improving the dynamics of the new GTI with a new sports suspension, DCC adaptive damping and an XDS electronic differential. Drive will be sent to the front wheels via a six-speed manual or optional six-speed dual-clutch gearbox.

First sales will start in Germany this week, with North American versions scheduled to arrive by the middle of the year.
 
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
"VW has concentrated on improving the dynamics of the new GTI with a..."


everything but reliability.

This sort of comment is getting really tiring.

Yea cause VW/Audi's are so reliable. :roll:


<-- Worked on SiLs Audi again this past weekend.
 
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
"VW has concentrated on improving the dynamics of the new GTI with a..."


everything but reliability.

This sort of comment is getting really tiring.

Yea cause VW/Audi's are so reliable. :roll:


<-- Worked on SiLs Audi again this past weekend.

wow, so you work at a place that's sole purpose is to FIX VW's? Of course you will only see the busted VW's.
 
Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
"VW has concentrated on improving the dynamics of the new GTI with a..."


everything but reliability.

This sort of comment is getting really tiring.

Yea cause VW/Audi's are so reliable. :roll:


<-- Worked on SiLs Audi again this past weekend.

wow, so you work at a place that's sole purpose is to FIX VW's? Of course you will only see the busted VW's.

Actually I use to have my own shop and worked on ALL makes and models. So I know first hand how VW/Audi is, let alone all the ratings that put them down and even the head of their company saying they have problems.

The only people that seem to not get this is VW/Audi Fanyboys.
 
The head of the company is saying they are having problems? Linky??

I'd like to say there are not many Vw/Audi 'fanboys' on here, as all the AT'ers seem to like there domestic stuff...or Toyota/Honda.

I personally believe the issue is the drivers, or the people who are responsible for repairing the vehicles and just not taking care of the car. It's not the cars fault ^_^!
 
Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
The head of the company is saying they are having problems? Linky??

I'd like to say there are not many Vw/Audi 'fanboys' on here, as all the AT'ers seem to like there domestic stuff...or Toyota/Honda.

I personally believe the issue is the drivers, or the people who are responsible for repairing the vehicles and just not taking care of the car. It's not the cars fault ^_^!

They have had major recalls, cars catch on fire, window clips fail, electrical issues up the wazu, etc...

I had 1 person want me to look at her car but it was under warranty. Said the radio/ac area was not working. I thought it maybe a ground as the fuses were good. The car caught on fire before she got it to the dealer.
I work on SiLs at least every month. This weekend the dash kept saying a bulb was burned out in the rear. Yet every bulb lit up fine. This is not the first time it has done it. So this time I replace EVERY bulb. Not sure if that fixed it or not. If not then the real fun begins.

And on and on?

The latest JD Power put VW near the bottom again. I think it was 2nd or 3rd from the worst.

?Volkswagen has admitted that the current generation Golf missed the mark on quality and reliability.
The company?s executive vice president of sales, Detlef Wittig, says the company invited leading quality research company JD Power to be part of the development process of the new sixth-generation Golf in an attempt to iron out reliability and quality gremlins that plagued the previous model.
He admits the previous car suffered from an over-complicated design, which made it hard to build and prone to problems.?

Len Hunt, the Volkswagen brand vice president
?The auto business is simple, Hunt says: "It's about good quality product." And VW has had quality problems, too. Worse, it's been slow to correct them. For example, there was an ignition coil problem of few years ago: bad coils could cause the engine to quit. "It was forever" before VW could get the cars fixed, notes Hunt, who says Germany has finally realized the importance of quality, and it's being addressed with lots of manpower. We'll have to see.?


Again, on and on? with inside VW top executives admitting problems. These are 2 I brought up with a simple google search.
 
gotcha, well I guess--from personal experience I have never had major electrical issues like that...and the window clips is a huge recall too...I did them in my 01 VW to be sure they didn't break.

How is it they are still turning a profit?? Where all the domestic stuff, even honda/toyota are losing lots and lots of money? (well, they were I guess, when everyone was -50%+ down)
 
Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
gotcha, well I guess--from personal experience I have never had major electrical issues like that...and the window clips is a huge recall too...I did them in my 01 VW to be sure they didn't break.

How is it they are still turning a profit?? Where all the domestic stuff, even honda/toyota are losing lots and lots of money? (well, they were I guess, when everyone was -50%+ down)

VW is big around the world, the US is almost a small/minor market for them now. I remeber their sales went from over 300k a year in the the us to about half that in a matter of 3-4 years. I am not sure what they have been the last 2 years?


But yea VW on average is NOT a reliable car company. I am glad that you don't any major issues, but sadly I bet you will sooner then later. That and the parts are not cheap so when it happens it hurts.

I use to have a older Saab and it was a blast to drive. But even with my "free" labor the parts just added up.
 
Looks the same to me? Not that anything is wrong w/ it. But I say that about every new year model of any car 😀
 
I am sorry Vivi, but the truth is, VWs reliability is just shit. I know so many people, that used to love them, but wont touch them any more..even the simple crap..motors, trim pieces, heaters etc.

I mean seriously how fucking tough is it to get the electrical system right? and the price they tout for their vehicles is a joke. a full loaded GTI approaches 30gs...you have to be kidding me? I used to own one and a jetta, i liked driving them, but they were crap reliability... and the fuggin arrogance you have to put up with...eeegads.. german engineering at its greatest.
 
interior is not as good as audi, but they are built very similiar, and my Audi has been free of maint. -- outside of normal oil cchanges/plugs, etc.


I have had...5 Jetta's .. but the issues when I bought them were known, because of incompetent previous owners!
 
Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
interior is not as good as audi, but they are built very similiar, and my Audi has been free of maint. -- outside of normal oil cchanges/plugs, etc.


I have had...5 Jetta's .. but the issues when I bought them were known, because of incompetent previous owners!

I guess all those owners with VWs that have multitudinous problems are just plain incompetent. Its all clear now. and the JD Power rating is based on incompetence also.. even clearer.

jC
 
Definitely exciting...just hoping they do come out with the R20 or whatever they said they might call it which will have the TT-S 265HP version of the engine and AWD...I'd look at that in a second (or an S3...if they would just bring that over). Perfect combo of performance and functionality (although admittedly not the best reliability).
 
On a side note regarding reliability...VW admitted that their manufacturing processes were too complex with the 5th generation Golf which led to reliability problems. Instead of focusing on new features this time around, they focused very much on refinining/simplifying the manufacturing process to improve reliability and reduce costs. Hopefully this is the first step toward VW fixing their reliability problems...and from the reviews I've read so far regarding the car...they definitely have refined an already wonderfully refined car (relative to its segment). I'm excited to drive a new GTI.

Edit: Didn't notice that Marlin1975 already posted some info regarding their attempt to improve reliability with this cycle.
 
Looks slick but I am curious what the lower end interior is going to look like. The 30K versions always look nice, let me see the 17k version.
 
Sorry but GTI's have not been able to keep up with their competition. They need some real power. The only thing they have going for them is a "nicer" interior but that's subjective as well.
 
Originally posted by: zerocool84
Sorry but GTI's have not been able to keep up with their competition. They need some real power. The only thing they have going for them is a "nicer" interior but that's subjective as well.

I do agree that a little more power would be nice...but no one can deny that the GTI is a very well balanced package. It doesn't excel in any one part, but it does all well (vs. being just good at one thing or another). If they could just drop the TT-S motor and a proper limited-slip in there...it would really excel.
 
Originally posted by: PricklyPete
Originally posted by: zerocool84
Sorry but GTI's have not been able to keep up with their competition. They need some real power. The only thing they have going for them is a "nicer" interior but that's subjective as well.

I do agree that a little more power would be nice...but no one can deny that the GTI is a very well balanced package. It doesn't excel in any one part, but it does all well (vs. being just good at one thing or another). If they could just drop the TT-S motor and a proper limited-slip in there...it would really excel.

Yes it does everything fine but when every other competition outclasses it in almost every way performance wise (sans Si), I think they need to do something about it but obviously the people who buy it don't care about that which is fine for VW as they don't have to spend $$$ on making it faster.
 
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
"VW has concentrated on improving the dynamics of the new GTI with a..."


everything but reliability.


The Mark V Golf/Jetta/GTI made it onto Consumer Reports' Recommended list.

This will probably replace my MkIV VR6. Car's getting old at 150K+ miles
 
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