2008 Infiniti G37 Coupe Unveiled

[iversonyin]

Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: iversonyin

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: Hyperlite

Originally posted by: supafly
Edmunds First Drive: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=120061

HAWT

:Q the bimmer died!

The new soon to be released M3 will p!ss all over it.

And the new Infiniti/Nissan GTR will piss all over the M3.

Not a chance. Have you seen the concept specs and figures for the new M3?

I?ll have to find the mag I purchased a few days ago, IIRC it stated a sub 4s 0-60 time, and we all know the BMW M-tech cars have great handling.

So?.

400HP for the M3 vs 450HP and AWD for the GTR of similar weight...hmm....

GTR will be priced NORTH of the M3...

Source?

None, but GTR is built to compete with the 911. There's a lot of articles out there that mentioned that it'll be priced similar to the 911 ($70k). M3 usually priced around $50-60k.

Speculation at this point...

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: Hyperlite

Originally posted by: supafly
Edmunds First Drive: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=120061

HAWT

:Q the bimmer died!

The new soon to be released M3 will p!ss all over it.

And the new Infiniti/Nissan GTR will piss all over the M3.

Not a chance. Have you seen the concept specs and figures for the new M3?

I?ll have to find the mag I purchased a few days ago, IIRC it stated a sub 4s 0-60 time, and we all know the BMW M-tech cars have great handling.

So?.

400HP for the M3 vs 450HP and AWD for the GTR of similar weight...hmm....

420HP With probably quite a bit more torque compared to the GTR too.

I think it would be an interesting race for sure.

More torque? A high-RPM V8 vs a twin-turbo V6? You're joking right?

What are the torque figures for the GTR? I was just assuming BTW. The new M3 should have around 525 Nm's of torque.

 

[Hyperlite]

Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: Hyperlite

Originally posted by: supafly
Edmunds First Drive: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=120061

HAWT

:Q the bimmer died!

The new soon to be released M3 will p!ss all over it.

And the new Infiniti/Nissan GTR will piss all over the M3.

Not a chance. Have you seen the concept specs and figures for the new M3?

I?ll have to find the mag I purchased a few days ago, IIRC it stated a sub 4s 0-60 time, and we all know the BMW M-tech cars have great handling.

So?.

Great handling does not always mean better lap times...

The GTR will have 450HP coupled with AWD which will definitely be good for a sub 4s 60 time, not that it will matter. The GTR will basically have 95% of the current 911 Turbo performance judging from Edmunds coverage on the matter. Lets face it, the 911 Turbo will piss all over the M3

And another thing to note...anyone read the writeup on the M5 6spd from C&D? link. the tranny couldn't keep up. Now the 335 is giving it up. i sincerely hope this isn't a trend. I'm not anti-bmw or anything, i love em. My dad had 3 540i 6spd's between 2001 and 2004, which i had the great pleasure of driving on several occasions.

 

[Fenixgoon]

*squints* is that an altima?

 

[ponyo]

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: Hyperlite

Originally posted by: supafly
Edmunds First Drive: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=120061

HAWT

:Q the bimmer died!

The new soon to be released M3 will p!ss all over it.

And the new Infiniti/Nissan GTR will piss all over the M3.

Not a chance. Have you seen the concept specs and figures for the new M3?

I?ll have to find the mag I purchased a few days ago, IIRC it stated a sub 4s 0-60 time, and we all know the BMW M-tech cars have great handling.

So?.

400HP for the M3 vs 450HP and AWD for the GTR of similar weight...hmm....

420HP With probably quite a bit more torque compared to the GTR too.

I think it would be an interesting race for sure.

More torque? A high-RPM V8 vs a twin-turbo V6? You're joking right?

What are the torque figures for the GTR? I was just assuming BTW. The new M3 should have around 525 Nm's of torque.

525 lb of torque? I don't think so.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Naustica

525 lb of torque? I don't think so.

He said 525 NM. That comes out to about 387 lbs of torque.

http://www.onlineconversion.com/ - handy site

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: Naustica

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: Hyperlite

Originally posted by: supafly
Edmunds First Drive: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=120061

HAWT

:Q the bimmer died!

The new soon to be released M3 will p!ss all over it.

And the new Infiniti/Nissan GTR will piss all over the M3.

Not a chance. Have you seen the concept specs and figures for the new M3?

I?ll have to find the mag I purchased a few days ago, IIRC it stated a sub 4s 0-60 time, and we all know the BMW M-tech cars have great handling.

So?.

400HP for the M3 vs 450HP and AWD for the GTR of similar weight...hmm....

420HP With probably quite a bit more torque compared to the GTR too.

I think it would be an interesting race for sure.

More torque? A high-RPM V8 vs a twin-turbo V6? You're joking right?

What are the torque figures for the GTR? I was just assuming BTW. The new M3 should have around 525 Nm's of torque.

525 lb of torque? I don't think so.

Since the new M3 uses the old BMW M5 V8 block, which produces 400HP with 500Nm of torque. You can extrapolate the extra 20Hp to equate a total of 525NM's of torque.

You do the math.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: RichUK

Since the new M3 uses the old BMW M5 V8 block, which produces 400HP with 500Nm of torque. You can extrapolate the extra 20Hp to equate a total of 525NM's of torque.

You do the math.

You cannot extrapolate figures like that. They could have gained more HP by either increasing the torque at the same RPM, or by making it rev higher.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Naustica

Originally posted by: RichUK

What are the torque figures for the GTR? I was just assuming BTW. The new M3 should have around 525 Nm's of torque.

525 lb of torque? I don't think so.

Uhh, 525 Nm = 387 lb/ft

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: RichUK

Since the new M3 uses the old BMW M5 V8 block, which produces 400HP with 500Nm of torque. You can extrapolate the extra 20Hp to equate a total of 525NM's of torque.

You do the math.

You cannot extrapolate figures like that. They could have gained more HP by either increasing the torque at the same RPM, or by making it rev higher.

It?s a ball park figure.

Since that?s all I could go by, as the only figures that have been released is the HP rating alone.

 

[overst33r]

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: Naustica

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: Hyperlite

Originally posted by: supafly
Edmunds First Drive: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=120061

HAWT

:Q the bimmer died!

The new soon to be released M3 will p!ss all over it.

And the new Infiniti/Nissan GTR will piss all over the M3.

Not a chance. Have you seen the concept specs and figures for the new M3?

I?ll have to find the mag I purchased a few days ago, IIRC it stated a sub 4s 0-60 time, and we all know the BMW M-tech cars have great handling.

So?.

400HP for the M3 vs 450HP and AWD for the GTR of similar weight...hmm....

420HP With probably quite a bit more torque compared to the GTR too.

I think it would be an interesting race for sure.

More torque? A high-RPM V8 vs a twin-turbo V6? You're joking right?

What are the torque figures for the GTR? I was just assuming BTW. The new M3 should have around 525 Nm's of torque.

525 lb of torque? I don't think so.

Since the new M3 uses the old BMW M5 V8 block, which produces 400HP with 500Nm of torque. You can extrapolate the extra 20Hp to equate a total of 525NM's of torque.

You do the math.

I recall Edmunds or another legitimate source saying that the V8 in the M3 is more related to the V10 in the M5 rather than the V8 in the E39 M5.

The 2008 BMW M3's new V8 engine is far from a derivative of the current 4.4-liter BMW V8. Instead this M-division V8 has the same fundamental architecture as the M5's 500-hp, 5.0-liter V10. Like the M5 engine, the M3 V8's cylinders are dramatically oversquare, with a 92.0mm bore and a 75.2mm stroke for an overall displacement of 3,999cc.

Like the M5 V10, the M3 V8's cylinder banks are set at a 90-degree angle. Oddly enough, the V8's crankshaft also has offset crank pins like those of the V10, even though the inherent balance of a 90-degree V8 means this isn't necessary.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/AutoshowArticles/articleId=108751

 

[ponyo]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Naustica

525 lb of torque? I don't think so.

He said 525 NM. That comes out to about 387 lbs of torque.

http://www.onlineconversion.com/ - handy site

Newton meter. I see.

Converted to pounds, it's more believable but this article is saying the new M3 will have around 410 hp and 300 lbs of torque. Which makes sense since the small v8 engine is supposed to be high-revving.

 

[lokiju]

Damn thats some jacked up formatting.

 

[andylawcc]

Originally posted by: Kelvrick
Front reminds me of a lexus sc430.

same here

but kudos to more power!

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: RichUK

Since the new M3 uses the old BMW M5 V8 block, which produces 400HP with 500Nm of torque. You can extrapolate the extra 20Hp to equate a total of 525NM's of torque.

You do the math.

You cannot extrapolate figures like that. They could have gained more HP by either increasing the torque at the same RPM, or by making it rev higher.

It?s a ball park figure.

Since that?s all I could go by, as the only figures that have been released is the HP rating alone.

But you added 25 Nm to the old engine's torque. You have nothing to go by to guess that.

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: Naustica

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: Hyperlite

Originally posted by: supafly
Edmunds First Drive: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=120061

HAWT

:Q the bimmer died!

The new soon to be released M3 will p!ss all over it.

And the new Infiniti/Nissan GTR will piss all over the M3.

Not a chance. Have you seen the concept specs and figures for the new M3?

I?ll have to find the mag I purchased a few days ago, IIRC it stated a sub 4s 0-60 time, and we all know the BMW M-tech cars have great handling.

So?.

400HP for the M3 vs 450HP and AWD for the GTR of similar weight...hmm....

420HP With probably quite a bit more torque compared to the GTR too.

I think it would be an interesting race for sure.

More torque? A high-RPM V8 vs a twin-turbo V6? You're joking right?

What are the torque figures for the GTR? I was just assuming BTW. The new M3 should have around 525 Nm's of torque.

525 lb of torque? I don't think so.

Since the new M3 uses the old BMW M5 V8 block, which produces 400HP with 500Nm of torque. You can extrapolate the extra 20Hp to equate a total of 525NM's of torque.

You do the math.

I recall Edmunds or another legitimate source saying that the V8 in the M3 is more related to the V10 in the M5 rather than the V8 in the E39 M5.

That could quite possible be true. However, the tid bits of info I have read have indicated it's the same engine as what was used in the M3 GTR, which was the same engine used in the E39 M5.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: RichUK
That could quite possible be true. However, the tid bits of info I have read have indicated it's the same engine as what was used in the M3 GTR, which was the same engine used in the E39 M5.

Sorry, but you are wrong yet again

- Under the is a V8 engine, the first in a production M3. Essentially 8/10ths of the M5's V10, it will displace 4.0 liters and make around 415 horsepower. To do this it will rely on revolutions to make power, and will likely feature a redline around 8200 rpm. Expect torque in the 280 lb-ft range.

http://www.mwerks.com/artman/publish/bmw_news/article_1196.shtml

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: RichUK

Since the new M3 uses the old BMW M5 V8 block, which produces 400HP with 500Nm of torque. You can extrapolate the extra 20Hp to equate a total of 525NM's of torque.

You do the math.

You cannot extrapolate figures like that. They could have gained more HP by either increasing the torque at the same RPM, or by making it rev higher.

It?s a ball park figure.

Since that?s all I could go by, as the only figures that have been released is the HP rating alone.

But you added 25 Nm to the old engine's torque. You have nothing to go by to guess that.

As I said earlier, I simply used basic math to come up with that (ball park) figure. Never did I say it were factual. What's your problem?

Let us just say it will be at least 500Nm's torque, huh. :roll:

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: RichUK

As I said earlier, I simply used basic math to come up with that (ball park) figure. Never did I say it were factual. What's your problem?

Let us just say it will be at least 500Nm's torque, huh. :roll:

Lower that crap to 499 Nm's and you have yourself a deal.

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: RichUK
That could quite possible be true. However, the tid bits of info I have read have indicated it's the same engine as what was used in the M3 GTR, which was the same engine used in the E39 M5.

Sorry, but you are wrong yet again

- Under the is a V8 engine, the first in a production M3. Essentially 8/10ths of the M5's V10, it will displace 4.0 liters and make around 415 horsepower. To do this it will rely on revolutions to make power, and will likely feature a redline around 8200 rpm. Expect torque in the 280 lb-ft range.

http://www.mwerks.com/artman/publish/bmw_news/article_1196.shtml

That's fair enough, thanks for the info.

What's the Nm conversion on 280 lb-ft of torque, 400ish?

 

[RollWave]

Bottomline is I think I'd still rather have the Bimmer!

 

[overst33r]

Originally posted by: RollWave
Bottomline is I think I'd still rather have the Bimmer!

No doubt about that, I agree with you.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: RichUK

That's fair enough, thanks for the info.

What's the Nm conversion on 280 lb-ft of torque, 400ish?

379.6

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: RichUK

That's fair enough, thanks for the info.

What's the Nm conversion on 280 lb-ft of torque, 400ish?

379.6

That's a big drop from 525Nm, lol. But then again it is a different engine.

I guess the new M3 must weigh a LOT less than the E39 M5, especially with its implementation of a carbon fibre roof etc.

With all the HP and Nm figures aside, I still think the new M3 will beat the GTR around a track.

 

[ElFenix]

so when will there be a G37 sedan?