2007 mlb awards

anxi80

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american league:
rookie of the year - dustin pedroia, boston red sox
manager of the year - eric wedge, cleveland indians
cy young - c.c. sabathia, cleveland indians
most valuable player - alex rodriguez, new york yankees

national league:
rookie of the year - ryan braun, milwaukee brewers
manager of the year - bob melvin, arizona diamondbacks
cy young - jake peavy, san diego padres
most valuable player - jimmy rollins, philadelphia phillies


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american league gold glove winners:
c: ivan rodriguez, detriot tigers
1b: kevin youkilis, boston red sox
2b: placido polanco, detriot tigers
3b: adrian beltre, seattle mariners
ss: orlando cabrera, los angeles angels
of: torii hunter, minnesota twins
of: grady sizemore, cleveland indians
of: ichiro suzuki, seattle mariners
p: johan santana, minnesota twins

national league gold glove winners:
c: russell martin, los angeles dodgers
1b: derrek lee, chicago cubs
2b: orlando hudson, arizona diamondbacks
3b: david wright, new york mets
ss: jimmy rollins, philadelphia phillies
of: aaron rowand, philadelphia phillies?
of: andruw jones, atlanta braves
of: carlos beltran, new york mets
of: jeff francoeur, atlanta braves?
p: greg maddux, san diego padres

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american league silver slugger winners:
c: jorge posada, new york yankees
1b: carlos pena, tamba bay devil rays
2b: placido polanco, detroit tigers
3b: alex rodriguez, new york yankees
ss: derek jeter, new york yankees
of: magglio ordonez, detroit tigers
of: vladimir guerrero, los angeles angels
of: ichiro suzuki, seattle mariners
dh: david ortiz, boston red sox

national league silver slugger winners:
c: russell martin, los angeles dodgers
1b: prince fielder, milwaukee brewers
2b: chase utley, philadelphia phillies
3b: david wright, new york mets
ss: jimmy rollins, philadelphia phillies
of: carlos beltran, new york mets
of: carlos lee, houston astros
of: matt holliday, colorado rockies
p: micah owings, arizona diamondbacks

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? rowand and francoeur tied in the voting
 

anxi80

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Yuk got a gold glove WOO YUK

how close was Becket to the Cy Young?
sabathia had 119 points (19 first place) while beckett got 86 points (8 first place votes). lackey got the one other first place vote.
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: anxi80
Originally posted by: Anubis
Yuk got a gold glove WOO YUK

how close was Becket to the Cy Young?
sabatha had 119 points (19 first place) while beckett got 86 points (8 first place votes). lackey got the one other first place vote.

Admittedly Sabathia had the better season. More innings, better numbers.

Like usual, however, Beckett was a post-season monster.
 

anxi80

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a lot are saying that because sabathia had such a heavy workload that could be a reason why he wasnt as sharp in the playoffs compared to beckett who was indeed a beast in the postseason and also pitched 40 less innings. i mean 40 innings alone could equal out to about 5-6 more starts and at least 450+ more pitches thrown by sabathia.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Originally posted by: anxi80
Originally posted by: Anubis
Yuk got a gold glove WOO YUK

how close was Becket to the Cy Young?
sabatha had 119 points (19 first place) while beckett got 86 points (8 first place votes). lackey got the one other first place vote.

Admittedly Sabathia had the better season. More innings, better numbers.

Like usual, however, Beckett was a post-season monster.
Yeah you don't see Beckett fold like a little bitch in big games like Sabbathia does.
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: anxi80
a lot are saying that because sabathia had such a heavy workload that could be a reason why he wasnt as sharp in the playoffs compared to beckett who was indeed a beast in the postseason and also pitched 40 less innings. i mean 40 innings alone could equal out to about 5-6 more starts and at least 450+ more pitches thrown by sabathia.

Well, that might be true for this season, but Beckett dominated in the playoffs with the Marlins in '03 as well. He's the kind of guy that rises to the occasion.
 

WisMan

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Originally posted by: OdiN
BOOOOO!!!!

Tulowitzki is ROTY.

Brauns offensive numbers were out of this world.

..........Braun.........A-Rod
BA.......324............317
HRs......34..............36
RBIs.....97.............113
Hits.....146.............130
Runs....91..............103
XBH.....66...............57

Thats after Braun got called up on May 25th.

Though I agree it would be very easy to make a compelling argument for Tulowitzki, too.
It was the closest margin of victory ever for a reason.
 

Alistar7

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Originally posted by: anxi80
Originally posted by: Anubis
Yuk got a gold glove WOO YUK

how close was Becket to the Cy Young?
sabathia had 119 points (19 first place) while beckett got 86 points (8 first place votes). lackey got the one other first place vote.


Hmmmm, expected that to be a much closer race. Congrats to all the winners though....
 

anxi80

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Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Originally posted by: anxi80
a lot are saying that because sabathia had such a heavy workload that could be a reason why he wasnt as sharp in the playoffs compared to beckett who was indeed a beast in the postseason and also pitched 40 less innings. i mean 40 innings alone could equal out to about 5-6 more starts and at least 450+ more pitches thrown by sabathia.
Well, that might be true for this season, but Beckett dominated in the playoffs with the Marlins in '03 as well. He's the kind of guy that rises to the occasion.
oh no doubt about it. i hope my post didnt come off as making excuses for sabathia and his performance, just stating some numbers and what others think. i mean beckett missed about two starts alone on the d.l in the beginning for his blisters and he was also well-rested at the end for the playoffs. thats just good managing on francona's part to have him ready.

sabathia and his numbers deserved the award. but i think it should've been closer. but it worked out in that beckett got the ring; and in a big game he's the pitcher i'd feel most comfortable having up there on the hill.
 

anxi80

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Originally posted by: WisMan
Originally posted by: OdiN
BOOOOO!!!!

Tulowitzki is ROTY.

Brauns offensive numbers were out of this world.

Braun A-Rod
BA .324 .317
HRs 34 36
RBIs 97 113
Hits 146 130
Runs 91 103
XBH 66 57

Thats after Braun got called up on May 25th.

Though I agree it would be very easy to make a compelling argument for Tulowitzki, too.
It was the closest margin of victory ever for a reason.
a lot of people believe that tulowitzki should've won just because he was a healthier balance of both offense and defense. and not to take anything from troy because i think he's just as deserving; but for all the defensive gaffes braun made he more than made up for them with his bat in my opinion. like it was pointed out, he was called up almost two months after the season started and put up mvp-like numbers (lets be honest here, mvp awards hitters nine times out of 10; ortiz almost won it and he only played defense for a week in interleague play).
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: anxi80
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Originally posted by: anxi80
a lot are saying that because sabathia had such a heavy workload that could be a reason why he wasnt as sharp in the playoffs compared to beckett who was indeed a beast in the postseason and also pitched 40 less innings. i mean 40 innings alone could equal out to about 5-6 more starts and at least 450+ more pitches thrown by sabathia.
Well, that might be true for this season, but Beckett dominated in the playoffs with the Marlins in '03 as well. He's the kind of guy that rises to the occasion.
oh no doubt about it. i hope my post didnt come off as making excuses for sabathia and his performance, just stating some numbers and what others think. i mean beckett missed about two starts alone on the d.l in the beginning for his blisters and he was also well-rested at the end for the playoffs. thats just good managing on francona's part to have him ready.

sabathia and his numbers deserved the award. but i think it should've been closer. but it worked out in that beckett got the ring; and in a big game he's the pitcher i'd feel most comfortable having up there on the hill.

I didn't think you were making excuses or anything, I just wanted to point out that Beckett is no rookie when it comes to dominating the post-season. Personally, I thought Lacky was pretty deserving too, but CC was a good choice. With his blistering problems, I doubt the majors will see Beckett pitch 240 innings in a season. He should, however, have no problems pitching ~200 per season and continuing to deliver.

More hypothetical, but I wonder how much facing the Yankees hurt Beckett and helped CC as well. I'm not making excuses as to why Beckett didn't win, but facing such a good lineup for 2 - 3 starts definitely changes things.

 

miniMUNCH

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Beckett got fucking robbed... with his post season performance vs. those of C.C. and Carmona, it should not have been close.

Take the top five or so pitchers in the AL and ask anyone who they'd want to pitch one game that they had to win... rightmost everyone would answer "Beckett"... bam, Cy young should be his, done.

Any pitcher caves as bad as Carmona and CC did in the crunch does not deserve the Cy Young... bottom line, IMO.
 

jlarsson

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Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
Beckett got fucking robbed... with his post season performance vs. those of C.C. and Carmona, it should not have been close.

If I recall correctly, the Cy Young voting is done before playoffs start.
 

Jschmuck2

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Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
Beckett got fucking robbed... with his post season performance vs. those of C.C. and Carmona, it should not have been close.

Take the top five or so pitchers in the AL and ask anyone who they'd want to pitch one game that they had to win... rightmost everyone would answer "Beckett"... bam, Cy young should be his, done.

Any pitcher caves as bad as Carmona and CC did in the crunch does not deserve the Cy Young... bottom line, IMO.

Wow.

All of the voting is done before the post-season starts.

Don't you have a pink Boston hat to be purchasing?
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Originally posted by: anxi80
Originally posted by: Anubis
Yuk got a gold glove WOO YUK

how close was Becket to the Cy Young?
sabatha had 119 points (19 first place) while beckett got 86 points (8 first place votes). lackey got the one other first place vote.

Admittedly Sabathia had the better season. More innings, better numbers.

Like usual, however, Beckett was a post-season monster.
Yeah you don't see Beckett fold like a little bitch in big games like Sabbathia does.

yeah. he just folds over a little blister. again and again and again....

sucks, cause he's a monster.
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
Beckett got fucking robbed... with his post season performance vs. those of C.C. and Carmona, it should not have been close.

Take the top five or so pitchers in the AL and ask anyone who they'd want to pitch one game that they had to win... rightmost everyone would answer "Beckett"... bam, Cy young should be his, done.

Any pitcher caves as bad as Carmona and CC did in the crunch does not deserve the Cy Young... bottom line, IMO.

Spoken like a true Sawx fan. meaning: outside of reality, doesn't really understand voting, rules, etc.... :p
 

BrokenVisage

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All I know is Rollins BETTER be the MVP of the NL. Holiday had numbers and played a mediocre outfield.. J-Roll's fielding, speed, clutch hitting, extra base hits, and leadership totally makes him more "valuable" to the Phils. Especially with all the injuries they had to play through, he was always there giving his all.
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
Beckett got fucking robbed... with his post season performance vs. those of C.C. and Carmona, it should not have been close.

Take the top five or so pitchers in the AL and ask anyone who they'd want to pitch one game that they had to win... rightmost everyone would answer "Beckett"... bam, Cy young should be his, done.

Any pitcher caves as bad as Carmona and CC did in the crunch does not deserve the Cy Young... bottom line, IMO.

Spoken like a true Sawx fan. meaning: outside of reality, doesn't really understand voting, rules, etc.... :p

I'm a Sox fan and reading that made me cringe just about as much as seeing the "Tim Wakefield for Cy Young" facebook group. Too many of our fans are absolute retards now.
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
Beckett got fucking robbed... with his post season performance vs. those of C.C. and Carmona, it should not have been close.

Take the top five or so pitchers in the AL and ask anyone who they'd want to pitch one game that they had to win... rightmost everyone would answer "Beckett"... bam, Cy young should be his, done.

Any pitcher caves as bad as Carmona and CC did in the crunch does not deserve the Cy Young... bottom line, IMO.

Spoken like a true Sawx fan. meaning: outside of reality, doesn't really understand voting, rules, etc.... :p

I'm a Sox fan and reading that made me cringe just about as much as seeing the "Tim Wakefield for Cy Young" facebook group. Too many of our fans are absolute retards now.

and a large number of them wear pink
:(
 

miniMUNCH

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1st of all... I am not a Red Sox fan. If anything, I wanted the Indians in the world series but honestly, I didn't care... I don't really follow any particular MLB team. I used to pitch in high school (was pretty good) and I mainly like to watch good pitching so I have seen C.C., Carmona, and Beckett pitch many, many times throughout the season (probably more than thecy young voters did). I'm a lefty btw... so if anything I should be cheering for C.C. to win the CY.

2nd... I am aware that the cy young voting is completed before the post-season, which I think is stupid. It is same as voting for the NBA MVP's before the playoffs and then watching dirk choke, etc. These things should be voted after the entire season is over... if anything, the postseason should be weighted more heavily than the regular season... winning it all is what it is all about after all. Just my opinion.

3rd... all the arguments about how C.C. pitched more innings, had more quality starts, had a slightly better ERA, etc. is all fine and good. What about Beckett pitching about half his games at one of 'the' hitter's parks in MLB... a 3.3 ERA is pretty damn amazing when you consider that Beckett pitched half his games at fenway.


Edit: Thanks to those folks who automatically assumed I was Red Sox fans and/or called me a retard, etc. That felt great. ;)
 

Mr Incognito

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No, that would be unfair for the player who was on a shitty team but still put up monster numbers over the course of 162 games or 40 some odd starts. The playoffs have nothing to do with the 162 game grind that is the regular season.

Pedroia deserved it, especially after finding out he had a broken bone in his hand since Sept. 10.
Troy learned his lesson this year. Hitting>>>>>Fielding.
Go Holliday, fuck Prince.
Lowell for MVP! :p. Though Rodriguez has the trophy at his home already. :(