2007 Honda Civic Si Sedan

[Sketcher]

Official: 2007 Civic Si Sedan

MSRP & Build




Teaser: 2007 Civic Si Sedan

-AutoBlog - Sep 06
-Car and Driver - Sep 06
-Automobilemag - Dyno Run

The Truth in Numbers
(2007 Volkswagen GTI, Honda Civic Si(coupe), and Mazdaspeed 3 Dyno Tests & performance review)

[Update] 10/27 1839hrs
Cars.com - Sep '06 Review
Car.com - First Drive

[Update] 10/28 1110hrs - Pics of production vehicle.
Worldcarfans.com
VTec.net

[Update] 10/28 2017hrs - Temple of VTEC video
TOV - Concept Debut

 

[ScottFern]

how much?

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Nice

 

[Vortex22]

Mmmmm I loved the 99-00 Si cause it wasn't a hatch. So awesome that they brought it back, and sedan so you can argue parcticality this time around!

Don't know why they have that ugly wing on the back in the auto show photos, but the pics on Honda's site look very nice.

 

[ViviTheMage]

hey, it doesnt look half bad!

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
hey, it doesnt look half bad!

It looks exactly like the sedan with the Si spoiler. Which doesn't look half bad, but I'm not a fan of the Si spoiler.

 

[BD2003]

The stock sedan has a softer suspension than the stock coupe....I wonder if the Si sedan has softer suspension than the Si coupe?

 

[Sketcher]

Linked a vid clilp of a dyno run in OP.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Prefer the MazdaSpeed3.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I wonder what acceleration times will be with 4 adults in it...

 

[Shawn]

http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=upcomingMS3

263hp, 280lb torque compared to the civic si's 197hp 139lb torque. I think I know what I'd get.

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Prefer the MazdaSpeed3.

Absolutely.

The Mazdaspeed3 starts just under $23K. Honda would be wise to price this around $20-21K. Otherwise, your in the territory of a faster, better looking vehicle.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I wonder what acceleration times will be with 4 adults in it...

I imagine that's the half of the compromise buyers won't care about...

 

[Regs]

I wouldn't want to sit in the back seat of any coup. I'm 6'1 and I barly fit in the front seat of my Accord.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I like it. It's kind of the spiritual successor to my old Integra GS-R sedan.

 

[ballmode]

not bad

 

[Sketcher]

Originally posted by: KnightBreed

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Prefer the MazdaSpeed3.

Absolutely.

The Mazdaspeed3 starts just under $23K. Honda would be wise to price this around $20-21K. Otherwise, your in the territory of a faster, better looking vehicle.

Appearance [better looking] is subjective. In my 20's I might have preferred an MS3 (actually I preferred a Charcoal '91 Mustang GT) now in my 30's I prefer the more refined look of the Civic Si Sedan. That is, as far as $20K compact cars go.

No doubt the MS3 would be more fun to drive; but it's also a little more expensive to do so. MazdaSpeed3 = 20/28 mpg vs Civic Si Sedan = 23/32 mpg. For some, that's not enough to sway a decision but for those who were initially sold on the non-Si Sedan and EPA of 30/38 you're already in no-mans-land as far as operating costs go.

Added to Car and Driver's accolades and Consumer Reports year after year reviews and the current backorder for '06 Civic Sedans; Honda won't have to spend too much time counting beans to get it sold.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Prefer the MazdaSpeed3.

Same. Instant torque is a lot more fun than having to constantly shift into insanely high rpms in order to get it.

 

[91TTZ]

Why do fanboys care about what the redline is while ignoring the important ifgures like horsepower and torque?

"yeah dog it only has 78 hp but it revs to 9,000 rpm!!!!1"

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I wonder what acceleration times will be with 4 adults in it...

Not very good considering its missing something..........torque

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Regs
I wouldn't want to sit in the back seat of any coup. I'm 6'1 and I barly fit in the front seat of my Accord.

i bet you'd be just peachy in the back of a bentley continental GT

 

[Sketcher]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Why do fanboys care about what the redline is while ignoring the important ifgures like horsepower and torque?

"yeah dog it only has 78 hp but it revs to 9,000 rpm!!!!1"

Who's the fanboy raving redlines? 8K is relevant to the Sedan discussion regarding previous Civic Sedan models; but no one's discussing it as a deciding factor. HP and torque aren't being ignored by any means. They are apparently more important than other factors to you though .

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Regs
I wouldn't want to sit in the back seat of any coup. I'm 6'1 and I barly fit in the front seat of my Accord.

i bet you'd be just peachy in the back of a bentley continental GT

I'm 6' 4" and fit okay in the front of a Civic coupe or sedan. Back in a Civic coupe isn't bad once you're in there. However the back of a sedan is even worse for headroom, as the sedan isn't much larger than the Coupe.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: Sketcher

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Why do fanboys care about what the redline is while ignoring the important ifgures like horsepower and torque?

"yeah dog it only has 78 hp but it revs to 9,000 rpm!!!!1"

Who's the fanboy raving redlines? 8K is relevant to the Sedan discussion regarding previous Civic Sedan models; but no one's discussing it as a deciding factor. HP and torque aren't being ignored by any means. They are apparently more important than other factors to you though .

A high redline = loud as hell = tuner (or perhaps, ricer) crowd loves it.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Regs
I wouldn't want to sit in the back seat of any coup. I'm 6'1 and I barly fit in the front seat of my Accord.

i bet you'd be just peachy in the back of a bentley continental GT

I'm 6' 4" and fit okay in the front of a Civic coupe or sedan. Back in a Civic coupe isn't bad once you're in there. However the back of a sedan is even worse for headroom, as the sedan isn't much larger than the Coupe.

Hell, I'm 6'2", and I fit just fine in a celica, which is even smaller. The civic coupe isnt any smaller than the sedan, so the back seats are still perfectly usable, unlike some of it's competitors. The back seats of the celica, and many other small coupes, however - nothing but a 10 year old could comfortably sit back there.