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Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
I heard its going to weigh in at close to 3,800 lbs! Ouch!
Yup, it'll weigh just as much as a Nissan Maxima.

Ever notice how people these days have no friggin clue how much the average car weighs? Any average family sedan is going to be sitting around 3,500 pounds. Add another thousand pounds for trucks/SUVs. And even at those weights, we're talking about the lightest of the light for everyday cars.

Sure, there are some sports cars out there that are still featherweights, but the simple fact is that any car with a decent amount of luxury and convenience features will be coming in at 3,500 pounds at best. All these new, cool gizmos that everyone wants add weight, lots and lots of weight.

Cars today are heavier than that "behemoths" of the 1950's, 60's, and 70's because of all the features that we're demanding and all the safety additions that have been made. Even though the individual parts are lighter, there are so many more parts required that the cars themselves are heavier.

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
I heard its going to weigh in at close to 3,800 lbs! Ouch!
Yup, it'll weigh just as much as a Nissan Maxima.

Ever notice how people these days have no friggin clue how much the average car weighs? Any average family sedan is going to be sitting around 3,500 pounds. Add another thousand pounds for trucks/SUVs. And even at those weights, we're talking about the lightest of the light for everyday cars.

Sure, there are some sports cars out there that are still featherweights, but the simple fact is that any car with a decent amount of luxury and convenience features will be coming in at 3,500 pounds at best. All these new, cool gizmos that everyone wants add weight, lots and lots of weight.

Cars today are heavier than that "behemoths" of the 1950's, 60's, and 70's because of all the features that we're demanding and all the safety additions that have been made. Even though the individual parts are lighter, there are so many more parts required that the cars themselves are heavier.

ZV


Yeah, I know the new pony's are heavier than their predecessors since I believe the current S197 platform is 50% more rigid than the previous SN95 platform.

I guessed it will MSRP around $40-45k...but will go out the door for about $10k more because initial demand.
 

acemcmac

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My current car (which happens to be a mustang) is 3200lbs and I would NEVER consider a car heavier unless it was an awd turbovan. Ever. Quote me.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: acemcmac
My current car (which happens to be a mustang) is 3200lbs and I would NEVER consider a car heavier unless it was an awd turbovan. Ever. Quote me.
You're never buying a practical car then... They way things are today, you might, MIGHT, be able to sneak a Civic or similar compact/subcompact car in at under 3,200 pounds, but any mid-sized sedan will be well heavier.

And I'm wondering if perhaps you have one of those wonderful Mustang II "Mustangs" since even the Fox body 'Stangs were pushing 3,300 pounds (NHTSA shows the 1992 Mustang Convertible at over 3,400 pounds, so the coupe was probably about 100 pounds lighter). The late-model coupe was just barely under 3,400 pounds. And the 1960's Mustangs also hovered around 3,400 pounds depending on options.

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DaTT

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I am considering trading in my 05 GT for this bad boy. And dealerships in Canada are not allowed to go above MSRP.
 

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: acemcmac
My current car (which happens to be a mustang) is 3200lbs and I would NEVER consider a car heavier unless it was an awd turbovan. Ever. Quote me.
You're never buying a practical car then... They way things are today, you might, MIGHT, be able to sneak a Civic or similar compact/subcompact car in at under 3,200 pounds, but any mid-sized sedan will be well heavier.

And I'm wondering if perhaps you have one of those wonderful Mustang II "Mustangs" since even the Fox body 'Stangs were pushing 3,300 pounds (NHTSA shows the 1992 Mustang Convertible at over 3,400 pounds, so the coupe was probably about 100 pounds lighter). The late-model coupe was just barely under 3,400 pounds. And the 1960's Mustangs also hovered around 3,400 pounds depending on options.

ZV

Well....I know my old 92 Fox came in at almost exactly 3,000 lbs curb weight - in fact, I seem to remember it being a bit under that. Haven't looked at it in a while. Mine was one of the lightest ones they produced though - it was a 4 cylinder LX notchback coupe.

My brother had a 1994 V6 Mustang that weighed in somewhere between 3300-3400 lbs IIRC.
 

DaTT

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Originally posted by: acemcmac
Originally posted by: Ronstang
It is supposedly going to cost in the neighborhood of $45K MSRP....but dealers will surely screw that all up with their greedy behavior.

I'd actually consider it a good deal at 45k

I wonder if this one has live axle too....

I think I read in Motor Trend or R&T that it will have a live axle
 

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Originally posted by: acemcmac
Originally posted by: rahvin
The base Mustang is around 20k and you think this is going to cost 50? MSRP will be low, production will also be low so expect large dealer markups and I doubt you will get it for even MSRP.

The last mustang GTR cost 65.....

I don't think this car ever made it past concept stages.....beauty car though. Was my desktop most of last year.
 

DaTT

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Originally posted by: SampSon
50K
A brand new roush mustang costs nearly that much.

Which is very very over priced seeing as it doesn't really outperform the GT as much as that price increase should.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: Black88GTA
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: acemcmac
My current car (which happens to be a mustang) is 3200lbs and I would NEVER consider a car heavier unless it was an awd turbovan. Ever. Quote me.
You're never buying a practical car then... They way things are today, you might, MIGHT, be able to sneak a Civic or similar compact/subcompact car in at under 3,200 pounds, but any mid-sized sedan will be well heavier.

And I'm wondering if perhaps you have one of those wonderful Mustang II "Mustangs" since even the Fox body 'Stangs were pushing 3,300 pounds (NHTSA shows the 1992 Mustang Convertible at over 3,400 pounds, so the coupe was probably about 100 pounds lighter). The late-model coupe was just barely under 3,400 pounds. And the 1960's Mustangs also hovered around 3,400 pounds depending on options.

ZV
Well....I know my old 92 Fox came in at almost exactly 3,000 lbs curb weight - in fact, I seem to remember it being a bit under that. Haven't looked at it in a while. Mine was one of the lightest ones they produced though - it was a 4 cylinder LX notchback coupe.

My brother had a 1994 V6 Mustang that weighed in somewhere between 3300-3400 lbs IIRC.
Ah, I'm thinking V8's only. You're right that the 4-cylinder cars would have been much lighter.
 

DaTT

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Originally posted by: swtethan
Originally posted by: DaTT
Originally posted by: swtethan
i would only pay about 30-35 for that....

You are obviously a n00b then. ;)

youre obviously a sucker then

That car wouldn't even LET you buy it....you couldn't handle it anyway, it's probably best you stick to the 4 cylinder cars. :)
 

swtethan

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Originally posted by: DaTT
Originally posted by: swtethan
Originally posted by: DaTT
Originally posted by: swtethan
i would only pay about 30-35 for that....

You are obviously a n00b then. ;)

youre obviously a sucker then

That car wouldn't even LET you buy it....you couldn't handle it anyway, it's probably best you stick to the 4 cylinder cars. :)



i woudlnt even want that car... already the styling is dated
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: swtethan
Originally posted by: DaTT
Originally posted by: swtethan
Originally posted by: DaTT
Originally posted by: swtethan
i would only pay about 30-35 for that....

You are obviously a n00b then. ;)

youre obviously a sucker then

That car wouldn't even LET you buy it....you couldn't handle it anyway, it's probably best you stick to the 4 cylinder cars. :)



i woudlnt even want that car... already the styling is dated
ummm... retro styling is in.

 

DaTT

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The styling isn't for everyone......But what a sexy car.