2007 Chevy Impala SS

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

What part of "I wasn't comparing them" don't you understand. I mentioned Lexus build quality because they have a very high standard. Again, it was merely a point of reference. I guess I could have said that on a scale of 1 to 10 I rate the build quality as a 6. Jeez, I say the word Lexus once and suddenly I'm comparing them, I love how everyone jumps to conclusions so quickly...:roll:

You may not have meant to, but compare them you did.

Bottom line....they aren't comparable. You perceive a difference in quality. Fine. Compare a beat-to-hell rental to your personal ride.

But they aren't the same class of car. For your 30k, you got a sporty, smaller car.

For the rental companies' probably 23k, they got a big sedan that might not seem as nice as your Lexus, but likely rides smoother, carries more people, and has a metric assload of room in the trunk.
Just like a truck might cost the same, and only can carry 3 people, but it can tow your boat.

Just depends on what you want your vehicle to do for you.

This is all I said in regard to Lexus, "Fit and finish is okay but nothing near Lexus quality." I could just as easily have said, "Fit and finish is okay but overall I'd rate it a 6 out of 10."

That is hardly comparing the entire car to a Lexus car.

Besides, I'd hardly say 8k miles is beat to hell. I rented a Lotus Elise with 4k miles on it and didn't think it was "beat to hell" as you put it. I'd be willing to bet that most of the driving on that car has been fairly sedate. I know I haven't beat it to hell.

I worked in the rental car industry for many years and you could really see the difference between a Toyota and a Buick after 20k miles. Do people beat on Buicks but not Toyota rental cars?

 

[DivideBYZero]

I've only driven a 2005 Impala and it was a very bad car. If you want a comparable boat with comfort and some go, get the Avalon, owns it in all areas. Stop comparing a Lexus to the Impala, that's just laughable.

 

[alimoalem]

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: alimoalem

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Why would the fit and finish be as good as a car that costs twice as much? If I had a Lexus, I'd be pissed if it wasn't nicer than any Chevy or Ford.
Compare it to a nice Cadillac and you might have a valid point here.

I suppose it's not as nice as a Mercedes or a Rolls Royce, either?

I own a 2006 Lexus that cost in the low $30k range. It's not as powerful but it handles and stops a hell of a lot better than this car and the fit and finish is 10x what the Chevy is.

I haven't driven a recent Cadillac...sorry.

No kidding, Sherlock.
How much do you think those rental places pay for them Impalas? Prolly $10K less than the cheapest Lexus.

look at this genius. the is250 and impala ss cost the same. and for $5k more, you get the is350, which is faster and has a hell of a lot more luxury. do you guys get tired of thinking american cars are the only cars worth getting?

How about this genius. The is250 is in the luxury category and the Impala SS isn't. It doesn't matter if they cost only 5 grand from each other. You should NEVER expect a Chevy to compete with ANY luxury car. That's just comparing apples to oranges. And I really don't see what this has to do with American cars.

my god, ATers get blinder by the day. nowhere did i state the is250 is the impala'scompetitor. someone said the cheapest lexus is $10k more than the imapala ss. i'm showing him that's not true.

ElFenix, i used KBB's New Car Blue Book Value. Both '07 pricing.

IS250 MT: $28538. AT: $29,615
IS350 (cause i mentioned it was $5k more): $33,552
Impala SS w/Moon Roof: $28,293 (OP's model came with moon roof)

$245 difference seems pretty close to "same price" to me.

as i've stated earlier, i don't like either car. i just don't like it when people use false statements to back up their arguments.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: alimoalem

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Why would the fit and finish be as good as a car that costs twice as much? If I had a Lexus, I'd be pissed if it wasn't nicer than any Chevy or Ford.
Compare it to a nice Cadillac and you might have a valid point here.

I suppose it's not as nice as a Mercedes or a Rolls Royce, either?

I own a 2006 Lexus that cost in the low $30k range. It's not as powerful but it handles and stops a hell of a lot better than this car and the fit and finish is 10x what the Chevy is.

I haven't driven a recent Cadillac...sorry.

No kidding, Sherlock.
How much do you think those rental places pay for them Impalas? Prolly $10K less than the cheapest Lexus.

look at this genius. the is250 and impala ss cost the same. and for $5k more, you get the is350, which is faster and has a hell of a lot more luxury. do you guys get tired of thinking american cars are the only cars worth getting?

First of all you are talking about MSRP. These rental places can buy an Impala for many many thousands less than an IS250. Secondly, they can buy a V6 Impala still with more power than IS250 for even less than the SS.

 

[alimoalem]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: alimoalem

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Why would the fit and finish be as good as a car that costs twice as much? If I had a Lexus, I'd be pissed if it wasn't nicer than any Chevy or Ford.
Compare it to a nice Cadillac and you might have a valid point here.

I suppose it's not as nice as a Mercedes or a Rolls Royce, either?

I own a 2006 Lexus that cost in the low $30k range. It's not as powerful but it handles and stops a hell of a lot better than this car and the fit and finish is 10x what the Chevy is.

I haven't driven a recent Cadillac...sorry.

No kidding, Sherlock.
How much do you think those rental places pay for them Impalas? Prolly $10K less than the cheapest Lexus.

look at this genius. the is250 and impala ss cost the same. and for $5k more, you get the is350, which is faster and has a hell of a lot more luxury. do you guys get tired of thinking american cars are the only cars worth getting?

First of all you are talking about MSRP. These rental places can buy an Impala for many many thousands less than an IS250. Secondly, they can buy a V6 Impala still with more power than IS250 for even less than the SS.

first of all no, i wasn't talking MSRP. second, this is not a lexus vs chevy debate. my original statement was simply made to correct someone. third, the impala's 233HP 3.9L V6 is SLOWER than the 204HP 2.5L V6 in the is250. who cares if it has more power? fourth, what's your point with the v6 impala being cheaper than the ss? you expect to pay more for a smaller engine?

 

[AdamK47]

Go wheels should always be placed on the back side of human transport devices. Failing to do so demonstrates a flaw in HTD design.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: alimoalem

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: alimoalem

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Why would the fit and finish be as good as a car that costs twice as much? If I had a Lexus, I'd be pissed if it wasn't nicer than any Chevy or Ford.
Compare it to a nice Cadillac and you might have a valid point here.

I suppose it's not as nice as a Mercedes or a Rolls Royce, either?

I own a 2006 Lexus that cost in the low $30k range. It's not as powerful but it handles and stops a hell of a lot better than this car and the fit and finish is 10x what the Chevy is.

I haven't driven a recent Cadillac...sorry.

No kidding, Sherlock.
How much do you think those rental places pay for them Impalas? Prolly $10K less than the cheapest Lexus.

look at this genius. the is250 and impala ss cost the same. and for $5k more, you get the is350, which is faster and has a hell of a lot more luxury. do you guys get tired of thinking american cars are the only cars worth getting?

First of all you are talking about MSRP. These rental places can buy an Impala for many many thousands less than an IS250. Secondly, they can buy a V6 Impala still with more power than IS250 for even less than the SS.

first of all no, i wasn't talking MSRP. second, this is not a lexus vs chevy debate. my original statement was simply made to correct someone. third, the impala's 233HP 3.9L V6 is SLOWER than the 204HP 2.5L V6 in the is250. who cares if it has more power? fourth, what's your point with the v6 impala being cheaper than the ss? you expect to pay more for a smaller engine?

Yes, if your commute consists of braketorquing launches to squeeze out all the horsepower, Impala may be slower than IS250. If you drive like a normal person does, probably not. Driveability is all about low end torque.

 

[GoatMonkey]

This whole thread is getting stupid.

It started out with what seemed to me like a reasonable review of a car. Some things he liked and some that he didn't.

Now, since you guys are all lawyers we're going into a comparison with Lexus.

If Chewbacca was a wookie living on Endor, you must acquit.

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: GoatMonkey
This whole thread is getting stupid.

It started out with what seemed to me like a reasonable review of a car. Some things he liked and some that he didn't.

Now, since you guys are all lawyers we're going into a comparison with Lexus.

If Chewbacca was a wookie living on Endor, you must acquit.

Agreed. The review was reasonable enough.

The Impala is a decent car and would suit just about anybody looking in that particular segment. Though a pinnacle of design and engineering it is not.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: GoatMonkey
This whole thread is getting stupid.

It started out with what seemed to me like a reasonable review of a car. Some things he liked and some that he didn't.

Now, since you guys are all lawyers we're going into a comparison with Lexus.

If Chewbacca was a wookie living on Endor, you must acquit.

No kidding. :thumbsup:

I think some people just like to argue.

 

[AdamK47]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: GoatMonkey
This whole thread is getting stupid.

It started out with what seemed to me like a reasonable review of a car. Some things he liked and some that he didn't.

Now, since you guys are all lawyers we're going into a comparison with Lexus.

If Chewbacca was a wookie living on Endor, you must acquit.

No kidding. :thumbsup:

I think some people just like to argue.

No I don't.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: alimoalem

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Why would the fit and finish be as good as a car that costs twice as much? If I had a Lexus, I'd be pissed if it wasn't nicer than any Chevy or Ford.
Compare it to a nice Cadillac and you might have a valid point here.

I suppose it's not as nice as a Mercedes or a Rolls Royce, either?

I own a 2006 Lexus that cost in the low $30k range. It's not as powerful but it handles and stops a hell of a lot better than this car and the fit and finish is 10x what the Chevy is.

I haven't driven a recent Cadillac...sorry.

No kidding, Sherlock.
How much do you think those rental places pay for them Impalas? Prolly $10K less than the cheapest Lexus.

look at this genius. the is250 and impala ss cost the same. and for $5k more, you get the is350, which is faster and has a hell of a lot more luxury. do you guys get tired of thinking american cars are the only cars worth getting?

Why would anyone compare a subcompact car (Lexus) to a full size (Chevy) and think it a valid comparison based on price?