2005 Mustang GT?

[ultimatebob]

I have some quick questions for the Mustang fans on the forum...

How much do you guys think a 2005 Mustang GT in good condition should currently go for?

What are potential problem areas to look out for?

What's your favorite color for this car?

 

[Dr. Detroit]

Color: Legend Lime or Yellow. Can't go wrong with the red leather if you can find it either.

Price: All depends on mileage & options - No more than $15K for a prime unmodded example.

Higher miles will net you $9-$11K

 

[AMCRambler]

In before OMG SOLID REAR AXLE!

 

[7window]

Thing to watch out for is the owner never raced the car or put aftermarket stuff in it like a blower and tuned. I have a k & N , hurst and a exhaust ford racing muffler on my car. I have 14000 miles in my car. Never raced it.

Only issues I know of the car is the spark plug that sometimes breaks when removing. You have to be very careful if its high mileage and plugs hasn't been changed. Other than that ford did a good job in building this car. Color yellow very rare. I have one.

 

[power_hour]

Any colour as long as its black. Pop the hood and look for any signs of mods/tweaks/backyard drunken fixes.

If the guy answers the phone with any of the following comments: yo / sup / don't call so early / its my mom's car I just drive it - its the wrong car ;-)

 

[Throckmorton]

In before OMG SOLID REAR AXLE!

Those cars have bigger problems than the solid rear axle, like being 7 years old yet half the price of a new one you can get with the same horsepower but way better gas mileage and styling!

 

[dawp]

Wasn't 2005 the 1st year of a major makeover where just about everything changed? Almost waited when I bought my car in 2004 to see if it was something I'd like.

 

[ultimatebob]

Wasn't 2005 the 1st year of a major makeover where just about everything changed? Almost waited when I bought my car in 2004 to see if it was something I'd like.

Yep, it's the first year of the redesign... which is probably why it's holding it's resale so well.

I'm also stunned how well my 2007 Mini Cooper (the car I want to trade in for this) is holding it's value as well... probably because the 2012 MINI's coming off the line now are practically identical.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Thing to watch out for is the owner never raced the car or put aftermarket stuff in it like a blower and tuned. I have a k & N , hurst and a exhaust ford racing muffler on my car. I have 14000 miles in my car. Never raced it.

Only issues I know of the car is the spark plug that sometimes breaks when removing. You have to be very careful if its high mileage and plugs hasn't been changed. Other than that ford did a good job in building this car. Color yellow very rare. I have one.

And how do you tell that exactly? If he is smart, he removed all that stuff before listing it and sold it separately so you'd never be able to tell.

Funny that you say to avoid a car with aftermarket stuff and then you list all the aftermarket stuff you have on your car.

 

[Ferzerp]

The 2005 has the horrible 4.6L

However, anyone who tells you the current v6 is as good as that engine doesn't understand that an HP rating only tells you the peak HP and really doesn't tell you anything about how much power the car has across the entire rpm range, so ignore those people who will chime in and say get a current v6 mustang

 

[Throckmorton]

The 2005 has the horrible 4.6L

However, anyone who tells you the current v6 is as good as that engine doesn't understand that an HP rating only tells you the peak HP and really doesn't tell you anything about how much power the car has across the entire rpm range, so ignore those people who will chime in and say get a current v6 mustang

2005 Ford Mustang GT 4.6L V8 0-60 mph 5.1 Quarter mile 13.5 (Motor Trend Jan 05)
2006 Ford Mustang GT 4.6L V8 0-60 mph 5.1 Quarter mile 13.5 @ 103.6 mph (Motor Trend)

2011 Ford Mustang 3.7L V6 0-60 mph 5.1 – Quarter mile 13.7 @ 102 mph (Motor Trend)

From here: http://www.mustangcult.com/2009/05/ford-mustang-0-60-and-14-mile-times/

 

[Ferzerp]

Because the RPM range you use while doing a drag race or 0-60 is the same rpm range you use driving around town!

 

[7window]

And how do you tell that exactly? If he is smart, he removed all that stuff before listing it and sold it separately so you'd never be able to tell.

Funny that you say to avoid a car with aftermarket stuff and then you list all the aftermarket stuff you have on your car.

Its a good start is what I offered him. Some guys won't tell him but if you try hard enough you could probably (maybe or maybe not)find out something about the car. People like to talk about their car in the forum.

About my car I am not selling it :hmm: I baby it too. Plus K&N hurst, exhaust is nothing. I took off the K&N just recently because of smog and debating if I should put it back. I think I will put it back becasue I am too cheap to waste my original air cleaner.

 

[exdeath]

And how do you tell that exactly? If he is smart, he removed all that stuff before listing it and sold it separately so you'd never be able to tell.

Funny that you say to avoid a car with aftermarket stuff and then you list all the aftermarket stuff you have on your car.

There are ways to tell. I can easily tell if a pulley was ever swapped on a supposedly stock Terminator just by the little plastic shaft thread plug missing or the unavoidable tool marks left by a Eaton pulley puller/installer tool.

But yeah "never raced" my ass. Don't lie to me because I don't care if it "never sees boost" because it will see it daily after I buy it and is the only reason I'm buying it.

 

[ultimatebob]

2005 Ford Mustang GT 4.6L V8 0-60 mph 5.1 Quarter mile 13.5 (Motor Trend Jan 05)
2006 Ford Mustang GT 4.6L V8 0-60 mph 5.1 Quarter mile 13.5 @ 103.6 mph (Motor Trend)

2011 Ford Mustang 3.7L V6 0-60 mph 5.1 – Quarter mile 13.7 @ 102 mph (Motor Trend)

From here: http://www.mustangcult.com/2009/05/ford-mustang-0-60-and-14-mile-times/

Yeah, but I can get a used 2005 GT for less than half the price of a new 2012 V6. It's not a daily driver (that's what I got the Chevy Cruze for a few weeks ago), so why do I care what the gas mileage is?

 

[7window]

There are ways to tell. I can easily tell if a pulley was ever swapped on a supposedly stock Terminator just by the little plastic shaft thread plug missing or the unavoidable tool marks left by a Eaton pulley puller/installer tool.

But yeah "never raced" my ass. Don't lie to me because I don't care if it "never sees boost" because it will see it daily after I buy it and is the only reason I'm buying it.

Thanks. Have to remember this.

 

[Vic Vega]

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[Dr. Detroit]

Yeah, but I can get a used 2005 GT for less than half the price of a new 2012 V6. It's not a daily driver (that's what I got the Chevy Cruze for a few weeks ago), so why do I care what the gas mileage is?

2012 Mustang V6 Premiums are $6K off MSRP in my hood - And the interior upgrade that occurred in 2010 was SIGNIFICANT. Exterior is up to you on style.

Might want to consider a New V6 Stang for $23K with Premium & Performance pack.

6spd Manual over 5spd Manual and a host of other improvements including a $2K Performance packa that would cost you a grip more in aftermarket parts.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Based on the '06 GT I used to have, there are a few things you'd want to check:

- Clutch-type limited slip differential was standard on the GT in '05 and '06. There was a TSB out for it because of chatter during tight low-speed turns (e.g. parking lot maneuvering) because Ford had used a sub-optimal differential lube initially and the TSB involves replacing the clutch packs in earlier models. You'll want to make sure that this was taken care of. TSB 07-22-08.

- Fuel tank filling issue. On the '05 and '06 cars the fuel tank would sometimes pressurize while filling and cause the fuel pump to hit its auto shut off before the tank was even 3/4 full. This was annoying, but could often be prevented by fueling with the car facing downhill or by angling the fuel filler nozzle differently.

- Fuel pump cavitation issue. After an extended cruise, the car will hesitate or shudder when you slow down and then try to accelerate again. The issue is caused by cavitation at the fuel pump (air bubble build up in the pump and when you slow down the engine experiences a momentary fuel pressure drop which causes a stumble). Ford has a TSB out on this and it's TSB 06-9-9.

My '06 experienced all of these issues, with the last one being the most annoying because the dealership refused to repair the issue stating that they could not replicate it (because they would not take the car for the multi-hour highway cruise necessary to replicate the issue).

All that said, I really, really enjoyed that car.

ZV

 

[Throckmorton]

Yeah, but I can get a used 2005 GT for less than half the price of a new 2012 V6. It's not a daily driver (that's what I got the Chevy Cruze for a few weeks ago), so why do I care what the gas mileage is?

I just think the prices are too high for those cars. Same goes for Jeep Wranglers.

Maybe it's a testament to how good cars are now that we can't buy cool 7 year old vehicles for $5000 anymore.

 

[DaTT]

Based on the '06 GT I used to have, there are a few things you'd want to check:

- Clutch-type limited slip differential was standard on the GT in '05 and '06. There was a TSB out for it because of chatter during tight low-speed turns (e.g. parking lot maneuvering) because Ford had used a sub-optimal differential lube initially and the TSB involves replacing the clutch packs in earlier models. You'll want to make sure that this was taken care of. TSB 07-22-08.

- Fuel tank filling issue. On the '05 and '06 cars the fuel tank would sometimes pressurize while filling and cause the fuel pump to hit its auto shut off before the tank was even 3/4 full. This was annoying, but could often be prevented by fueling with the car facing downhill or by angling the fuel filler nozzle differently.

- Fuel pump cavitation issue. After an extended cruise, the car will hesitate or shudder when you slow down and then try to accelerate again. The issue is caused by cavitation at the fuel pump (air bubble build up in the pump and when you slow down the engine experiences a momentary fuel pressure drop which causes a stumble). Ford has a TSB out on this and it's TSB 06-9-9.

My '06 experienced all of these issues, with the last one being the most annoying because the dealership refused to repair the issue stating that they could not replicate it (because they would not take the car for the multi-hour highway cruise necessary to replicate the issue).

All that said, I really, really enjoyed that car.

ZV

I experienced all those TSB's except the Differential one. But a few more I had instead., Shaker head unit swap (3 or 4 times, never fixed), rear brakes squealing, parking brake freezing on...I forget if there were any others.

I still have my 05 GT and love it. Just put a set of 4.10 gears in it not long ago.

Look under the hood near the front for corrosion as well, also a TSB, not a recall. About $200 to fix at a shop if it's not too bad.

 

[Zenmervolt]

I experienced all those TSB's except the Differential one. But a few more I had instead., Shaker head unit swap (3 or 4 times, never fixed), rear brakes squealing, parking brake freezing on...I forget if there were any others.

I still have my 05 GT and love it. Just put a set of 4.10 gears in it not long ago.

Look under the hood near the front for corrosion as well, also a TSB, not a recall. About $200 to fix at a shop if it's not too bad.

There was a TSB for the parking brake freezing?! I missed that. Mine froze on during an ice storm so I figured it was just the storm.

ZV

 

[Arkaign]

2012 Mustang V6 Premiums are $6K off MSRP in my hood - And the interior upgrade that occurred in 2010 was SIGNIFICANT. Exterior is up to you on style.

Might want to consider a New V6 Stang for $23K with Premium & Performance pack.

6spd Manual over 5spd Manual and a host of other improvements including a $2K Performance packa that would cost you a grip more in aftermarket parts.

I tend to agree. Starting out with a much upgraded vehicle tech/interior-wise, with zero miles and no previous owner abuse .. that's a real consideration when you look at a relatively small price gap. Depending on if this would be financed, you can also almost always get a lower interest payment on a new car vs. a used one (just how banks tend to work). Then you have to consider intangibles like cost of ownership, which means looking at the warranties maintenance of the new one vs. possible things to fix on the old one ('05s came out in '04, which means you're looking at an 8 year old car by this point).

I am all about saving money with used cars, but I'm not so sure a $15k used GT 4.6 that's eight years old is worth it when a just-as-fast brand new zero miles fully warrantied upgraded V6 with 300+hp is not very much more, and might even cost less when you do the complete math (let's say hypothetically you sell the car in 5 years, so in 2017 that V6 is only 5 years old, the 2005 would be 13 years old! Guesstimate pricing from me would be $10k for the 2012 V6, $6k for the 13 year old GT (that guess comes from looking at '99 GTs, which are 13 years old right now, and are available in common condition from $3k-$7k).

 

[DaTT]

There was a TSB for the parking brake freezing?! I missed that. Mine froze on during an ice storm so I figured it was just the storm.

ZV

Yup, had it "fixed" three times. Now I just don't use my e-brake in the winter.

TSB 06-05-04