2004 Jetta GL automatic - speak now or forever hold your peace

[Cdubneeddeal]

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Major problems, how about reliability. It's VW, duh!

Speaking from experience or here say? If from experience, then you're wrong. I've had four Vdubs. Two GTI's and two Jetta's. All MK2's. Two of the three went past 240k with no major problems. The other one had 139k when I sold her (Needed the money). Honestly, if you don't know what you're talking about, please keep your comments to yourself.

Now back to the topic. I would definitley get a different car, not because it's a VW, but because it's a GL. Yes, they are slow. Bottom lined cars. If the father is thinking more of the lines VW, I would, like others have said, go for a 1.8T if it's possible.

Apparently some people get lemons, others don't. If only VW would honestly work on build quality and reliability...

Honestly, it really depends on where it was made. German, Canadian, and American made VW's are great. It's seems from past experience that the Mexican made ones lack quality control. Once again, I mean no offense to our brothers down South.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Major problems, how about reliability. It's VW, duh!

Speaking from experience or here say? If from experience, then you're wrong. I've had four Vdubs. Two GTI's and two Jetta's. All MK2's. Two of the three went past 240k with no major problems. The other one had 139k when I sold her (Needed the money). Honestly, if you don't know what you're talking about, please keep your comments to yourself.

Now back to the topic. I would definitley get a different car, not because it's a VW, but because it's a GL. Yes, they are slow. Bottom lined cars. If the father is thinking more of the lines VW, I would, like others have said, go for a 1.8T if it's possible.

Apparently some people get lemons, others don't. If only VW would honestly work on build quality and reliability...

Honestly, it really depends on where it was made. German, Canadian, and American made VW's are great. It's seems from past experience that the Mexican made ones lack quality control. Once again, I mean no offense to our brothers down South.

But aren't all the Passats still made in Germany?

I would normally agree, but even Passats are not immune to having issues. But yeah..I think the Mexican made VWs are probably the worst. Again..VW being dumb...why not just pay more to have a factory in Canada/US, and as a result, have better QC.

 

[JohnCU]

humm is there any car that everyone would agree on as being the most reliable?

 

[Cdubneeddeal]

Originally posted by: JohnCU
humm is there any car that everyone would agree on as being the most reliable?

Honda, Toyota, and Lexus as always.

 

[MasterAndCommander]

WW :thumbsdown:
Jetta :thumbsdown:
Automatic :thumbsdown:

That's 3 strikes...nuff said!

 

[JohnCU]

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: JohnCU
humm is there any car that everyone would agree on as being the most reliable?

Honda, Toyota, and Lexus as always.

i bet $5 someone quotes you and says OMGNOWAI! MY HONDA DIED!

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: JohnCU
humm is there any car that everyone would agree on as being the most reliable?

GM.

*hides*

 

[JohnCU]

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

Originally posted by: JohnCU
humm is there any car that everyone would agree on as being the most reliable?

GM.

*hides*

i had a chevy lumina before my jetta and it died after 120k miles (transmission) but it never died on me anywhere else and no real big problems. and i drove the hell out of it.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

Originally posted by: JohnCU
humm is there any car that everyone would agree on as being the most reliable?

GM.

*hides*

i had a chevy lumina before my jetta and it died after 120k miles (transmission) but it never died on me anywhere else and no real big problems. and i drove the hell out of it.

I really don't know why GM gets a bad rap. We've had excellent luck with ours.

 

[IMaN00BieGF]

I had a Jetta 1.8T 2003. I had nothing but problems with it and everyone I know thats had a volkswagen has had problems with theres.

 

[aphex]

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: aphex
I've had three VW's now, ALL were utter CRAP.
2000 Jetta
2001.5 Passat
2002 Passat

Electrical problems, engine problems, things all over the car would break and magically, not be covered under their bumper to bumper warranty. To be honest, its way to many problems to even list here (i did so in a thread awhile back and it was LONG). Needless to say, each of the cars was in the shop with something wrong every 10-15k miles, it was insane.

I will NEVER buy another VW. Fun to drive, but god, what a POS. Don't even get me started on the dealers, they were almost worse than the car itself.

No offense to hispanics, but $10 says they were built in Mexico. When the first of the MK3's came out my sister had purchased a Jetta that had the same issues you described. Even once, one of the seat brackets broke on her while she was driving, it too was made in Mexico.

You are correct on the Jetta, but both Passats were made in Dresden if i recall.

 

[Tab]

Crap, I was thinking about buying a new VW Passat

Now, I got to find a new car...

 

[Instan00dles]

my vw has had its fair share of problems out of the ordinary "its an old car and things wear out" catagory but for some odd reason I still fix it instead of getting a different car. Its built strong thou, I got into a fender bender doing about 25 km/h and hit a civic, the civic was written off and my cars upper rad support was bent and I broke a head light. 50 bucks for a used headlight and 30 mins with a forklift bending it back into place and the car is a good as an old jetta.

 

[CTrain]

I would get a Civic or a Corolla instead.(especially the S version)...looks great for a compact car.

I owned 2 Civic Si(2000 model) and in those 4 yrs, zero problems.
I mean nothing, just oil change and replace the battery.

Then I bought a 2nd car(don't know why) a 2000 Jetta.
Man all kind of problems already.
Had to replace the CV boot. Then the fuel pump and thing related.
Cost me $600+ where I don't think I spent that much on both Civic Si in 4 yrs.

Just from experience.

 

[DeviousTrap]

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

Originally posted by: JohnCU
i have the same one 2003 model GLS it's 2.0 L 115 hp and 93000 miles on it. it's a little sporty but not the fastest thing and i've already spent a bunch of money fixing the coilpacks and need another 600 to fix the windshield wipers and squeaky sway bar but the car looks so sleek.

pics: bought it back in june

lol typical VW owner. "yeah the engine fell out, the doors are rusting off, a mouse popped out of the air conditioner and the transmission blew up, but it looks so sleek!"

Sadly, I would hate to be thrown in with that group. For some reason my 99 Passat honestly has not had any problems (despite my father and me using regular gas in it) in all of the 95k miles it has been driven; and it was a wrecked car that he fixed.

What really pisses me off is that instead of working hard on QC, VW decided they should try to build the Phaeton. What a waste of research, time, money.

The Phaeton actually was not a waste of time and money for VW as a company, it was a waste of time and money for VW of America to try and market it in the US. In all other markets the Phaeton sells suprisingly well.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: DeviousTrap

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

Originally posted by: JohnCU
i have the same one 2003 model GLS it's 2.0 L 115 hp and 93000 miles on it. it's a little sporty but not the fastest thing and i've already spent a bunch of money fixing the coilpacks and need another 600 to fix the windshield wipers and squeaky sway bar but the car looks so sleek.

pics: bought it back in june

lol typical VW owner. "yeah the engine fell out, the doors are rusting off, a mouse popped out of the air conditioner and the transmission blew up, but it looks so sleek!"

Sadly, I would hate to be thrown in with that group. For some reason my 99 Passat honestly has not had any problems (despite my father and me using regular gas in it) in all of the 95k miles it has been driven; and it was a wrecked car that he fixed.

What really pisses me off is that instead of working hard on QC, VW decided they should try to build the Phaeton. What a waste of research, time, money.

The Phaeton actually was not a waste of time and money for VW as a company, it was a waste of time and money for VW of America to try and market it in the US. In all other markets the Phaeton sells suprisingly well.

Really? Have some stats/numbers that back that up (not that I am doubting you)?

I still think that they would be helping their image overall, at least in the US, by concentrating on reliability/build quality over all else.

 

[SOSTrooper]

Funny how this video popped into my head when I read the title.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: DeviousTrap

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

Originally posted by: JohnCU
i have the same one 2003 model GLS it's 2.0 L 115 hp and 93000 miles on it. it's a little sporty but not the fastest thing and i've already spent a bunch of money fixing the coilpacks and need another 600 to fix the windshield wipers and squeaky sway bar but the car looks so sleek.

pics: bought it back in june

lol typical VW owner. "yeah the engine fell out, the doors are rusting off, a mouse popped out of the air conditioner and the transmission blew up, but it looks so sleek!"

Sadly, I would hate to be thrown in with that group. For some reason my 99 Passat honestly has not had any problems (despite my father and me using regular gas in it) in all of the 95k miles it has been driven; and it was a wrecked car that he fixed.

What really pisses me off is that instead of working hard on QC, VW decided they should try to build the Phaeton. What a waste of research, time, money.

The Phaeton actually was not a waste of time and money for VW as a company, it was a waste of time and money for VW of America to try and market it in the US. In all other markets the Phaeton sells suprisingly well.

Really? Where? I saw one for the first time on the road two days ago, and they've been out for a couple of years.

To put this into perspective, I saw an F50 on the road three days ago.

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
i hate to tell you this, but the computer is constantly monitoring tolerances in the engine and adjusting the fuel map accordingly.

Fuel map, yes; but TMK everything else is a learned response to the driver's habits.

*shrug* So say the Subaru Forum Gods