2004 Infiniti G35 Coupe

[mAdD INDIAN]

Originally posted by: EXman

I don't get it. The G in the US is the new Skyline in Japan. I'd relate the Skyline to be more of Nissan heritage than the Z.

What's not to get. And Z cars are much older than Skylines so I think that is your opinion but not standard thinking.

Nissan Z long heritage of Z cars for driving fun.

Infiniti G35 taking a Z rebranding it charging more for it just because some fools think it is better because it is from their premier brand name.

I just think if you want a "premier brand" car go BMW, Mercedes, Porche for a sports car. If you want what the Z is and has been for 3 decades then a Z is for you. Do you see IMO I think the G35 is a wanna be M3 it should have just stayed the Z as a Nissan and kept it's niche in American sports cars without posing as something it isn't. If you cannot tell I like nissans but I think infini's are a waste of money for more plush appointments and a different badge on the trunk lid saying to the wolrd "I'm better cause I drive an infiniti". It's called an opinion nothing more. G35 is nice but for a plush premier branded car I'd go with a european name brand.

umm...Skyline is just as old as the Z...it was originally a Prince trademark..but when Datsun/Nissan bought them that company, they got the Skyline badge.

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: Salvador

What's not to get. And Z cars are much older than Skylines so I think that is your opinion but not standard thinking.

Wanna bet? The Skyline has been around for at least as long, if not longer than the Z. I got pissed off because some dumb a*s cop came up to me when I was getting gas and asked me if it was the new Cadillac. There is no comparision in the styling as far as I'm concerned. Sal

BWHAHAHHAHAHH, Funniest post I've read all day

 

[EXman]

It's not about heritage, you fool, it's about $$$$$$. I's take a G35 Coupe over a Z anyday, just for the fact that it's got a back seat, more storage, and a better design (IMHO). I'd then buy Nissan Skyline Emblams for the front/back to make the transformation complete

I'm a Fool ok you know all and your opinion is the law of the land... For that Money you can Do MUCH better than a spruced up Z. Or did you read that is my opinion? If you don't think having an opion is allowed here you are the fool not I. I'm not trying to supress your opinion don't supress my opinion.

umm...Skyline is just as old as the Z...it was originally a Prince trademark..but when Datsun/Nissan bought them that company, they got the Skyline badge.

Originally a Prince trademark not a Datsun/Nissan... you said it "Prince"... anyhow regardless If you think Skyline is as established as the "Z" moniker in the United States that is down right silly (C'mon peeps how many of you live in Japan I don't the skyline is a pipedream of what we could have had but never did.) How many old Skylines you see running around the U.S. Sure the Skyline (The Real and true Skyline AWD right hand only Monster) is true Nissan but it isn't a part of the American Nissan lineup I grew up with and still enjoy hense It might be part of the Nissan World Wide heritage but as a part of the U.S. heritage where we live it just does not exsist. I'd Love to own a true Skyline but not if it is a rebadged Z or G35 rather. Bottom Line if you want a backseat and a plush interior I'd Buy a M3 over a suped up Z heck get a 4 door if you need it. :Q Or look on eBay I've seen some true skylines there that somehow made it over here granted you will have to learn how to drive on the right side.

What's not to get. And Z cars are much older than Skylines so I think that is your opinion but not standard thinking.

what I should have said was "to the average U.S. consumer" Z cars are much older than Skylines so I think that is your opinion but not standard thinking. sorry for the confusion I don't drive in other countries just mine. Sure it is small thinking but when have you driven a Skyline in Japan or elsewhere?

If you disagree with me great you have that right.

 

[Salvador]

what I should have said was "to the average U.S. consumer" Z cars are much older than Skylines so I think that is your opinion but not standard thinking. sorry for the confusion I don't drive in other countries just mine. Sure it is small thinking but when have you driven a Skyline in Japan or elsewhere?

Well.. Uh... I don't think I ever recall the Skyline being offered to the US consumer. Even now, it's rebadged an Infiniti.

Sal

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

Originally posted by: EXman

It's not about heritage, you fool, it's about $$$$$$. I's take a G35 Coupe over a Z anyday, just for the fact that it's got a back seat, more storage, and a better design (IMHO). I'd then buy Nissan Skyline Emblams for the front/back to make the transformation complete

I'm a Fool ok you know all and your opinion is the law of the land... For that Money you can Do MUCH better than a spruced up Z. Or did you read that is my opinion? If you don't think having an opion is allowed here you are the fool not I. I'm not trying to supress your opinion don't supress my opinion.

umm...Skyline is just as old as the Z...it was originally a Prince trademark..but when Datsun/Nissan bought them that company, they got the Skyline badge.

Originally a Prince trademark not a Datsun/Nissan... you said it "Prince"... anyhow regardless If you think Skyline is as established as the "Z" moniker in the United States that is down right silly (C'mon peeps how many of you live in Japan I don't the skyline is a pipedream of what we could have had but never did.) How many old Skylines you see running around the U.S. Sure the Skyline (The Real and true Skyline AWD right hand only Monster) is true Nissan but it isn't a part of the American Nissan lineup I grew up with and still enjoy hense It might be part of the Nissan World Wide heritage but as a part of the U.S. heritage where we live it just does not exsist. I'd Love to own a true Skyline but not if it is a rebadged Z or G35 rather. Bottom Line if you want a backseat and a plush interior I'd Buy a M3 over a suped up Z heck get a 4 door if you need it. :Q Or look on eBay I've seen some true skylines there that somehow made it over here granted you will have to learn how to drive on the right side.

What's not to get. And Z cars are much older than Skylines so I think that is your opinion but not standard thinking.

what I should have said was "to the average U.S. consumer" Z cars are much older than Skylines so I think that is your opinion but not standard thinking. sorry for the confusion I don't drive in other countries just mine. Sure it is small thinking but when have you driven a Skyline in Japan or elsewhere?

If you disagree with me great you have that right.

I wasn't talking about the US market. As a Datsun/Nisan enthusiast, I like to know about htier models. Hell, I even posted a thread a while back on Datsun's history (both racing and prodcution cars). In any case, while the Z label does have a LARGE following and hertiage behind it, you have to realize that the G35 Coupe IS a 2+2 Z with some nice luxury added on. It would be foolish and vain to disregard the G35 Coupe JUST because it doesn't have the Z badge on it. In the same regard, think of the G35 sedan as a 4-door Z (or the older Infiniti J30..althogut that did not share the samy driving dynamics as it was much softer).

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

just read the linked article, and I wanna know...wats the big deal with Satellite Radio? Is it THAT awesome?? I don't know much about its qualities (since we don't get it in Canada yet), but it got a lot of new Nissan owner's panty ina bunch because their Murano/FX/G didn't come wiht it.

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: rbloedow
Sweet, here are the changes for 2004:

Enhancements to the 2004 G35 Sport Sedan include: ? Standard heated outside mirrors on all models ? 17-inch wheels now standard on all models ? Improved standard 6-disc CD changer (with faster operation) ? Standard Tire Pressure Monitor System ? Standard rear limited-slip differential on Leather 6MT model ? Heated front seats and 4-way power front passenger's seat standard on Leather, Leather 6M/T models ? Engine will meet LEV2 standard for emission control (beginning with October production) ? Two new exterior colors ? Diamond Graphite, Twilight Blue (previously available)

Most all of those are already on the '03.5 models.

 

[Mani]

And for all the people saying that the G is a spruced up Z, a 2+2 Z...etc. - the ONLY things shared between the Z and the G35 is the FM chassis and the engine. So by that logic, you could say the FX35 is just a 4-door SUV version of the Z. See how silly that sounds? The G35C has different suspension, better handling, better braking, yet nicer ride (gotta love it), has 4 seats, lacks the Z's CAI, has an interior which lacks any resemblance to the Z, makes a completely different styling statement inside and out, and feels VERY different when driving (more planted vs. the Z's lighter feel). Both great cars but very different.

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

Originally posted by: Mani
And for all the people saying that the G is a spruced up Z, a 2+2 Z...etc. - the ONLY things shared between the Z and the G35 is the FM chassis and the engine. So by that logic, you could say the FX35 is just a 4-door SUV version of the Z. See how silly that sounds? The G35C has different suspension, better handling, better braking, yet nicer ride (gotta love it), has 4 seats, lacks the Z's CAI, has an interior which lacks any resemblance to the Z, makes a completely different styling statement inside and out, and feels VERY different when driving (more planted vs. the Z's lighter feel). Both great cars but very different.

Apart from the wheels, interior, and body work, aren't the suspension components the same between the G35 Coupe and Z? I thought they were? In my head, I linked the chassis, engine (didfferent intake), suspension (just different tuning), and brakes (Track pgk Z and G35C Sport). I was under the impression they perform almost the same as well.

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: Mani
And for all the people saying that the G is a spruced up Z, a 2+2 Z...etc. - the ONLY things shared between the Z and the G35 is the FM chassis and the engine. So by that logic, you could say the FX35 is just a 4-door SUV version of the Z. See how silly that sounds? The G35C has different suspension, better handling, better braking, yet nicer ride (gotta love it), has 4 seats, lacks the Z's CAI, has an interior which lacks any resemblance to the Z, makes a completely different styling statement inside and out, and feels VERY different when driving (more planted vs. the Z's lighter feel). Both great cars but very different.

Apart from the wheels, interior, and body work, aren't the suspension components the same between the G35 Coupe and Z? I thought they were? In my head, I linked the chassis, engine (didfferent intake), suspension (just different tuning), and brakes (Track pgk Z and G35C Sport). I was under the impression they perform almost the same as well.

The parts, bushings and springs are the same, but the shock tuning is very different. For me though, if the tuning is different it may as well be a different suspension. The brembos are the same, but the tires aren't. (Michelin pilot sports on the G vs continentals on the Z). Performance is similar but again, that's not really a metric you can use to say that they are just different versions of each other. I would say it is apparent they share the same bloodline but they are definitely not twins.

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

Originally posted by: Mani

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: Mani
And for all the people saying that the G is a spruced up Z, a 2+2 Z...etc. - the ONLY things shared between the Z and the G35 is the FM chassis and the engine. So by that logic, you could say the FX35 is just a 4-door SUV version of the Z. See how silly that sounds? The G35C has different suspension, better handling, better braking, yet nicer ride (gotta love it), has 4 seats, lacks the Z's CAI, has an interior which lacks any resemblance to the Z, makes a completely different styling statement inside and out, and feels VERY different when driving (more planted vs. the Z's lighter feel). Both great cars but very different.

Apart from the wheels, interior, and body work, aren't the suspension components the same between the G35 Coupe and Z? I thought they were? In my head, I linked the chassis, engine (didfferent intake), suspension (just different tuning), and brakes (Track pgk Z and G35C Sport). I was under the impression they perform almost the same as well.

The parts, bushings and springs are the same, but the shock tuning is very different. For me though, if the tuning is different it may as well be a different suspension. The brembos are the same, but the tires aren't. (Michelin pilot sports on the G vs continentals on the Z). Performance is similar but again, that's not really a metric you can use to say that they are just different versions of each other. I would say it is apparent they share the same bloodline but they are definitely not twins.

I don't think suyspension tuning would make that much of a diffference to say the suspension is differnet. IF hte geomerty, spring pre-load, camber, etc.. was different..then ya you'd have a point..but just changing dampening (firmness to softness) doens't really make a different suspension. Now if the G35 had double wishbone up front (ala Z32 300ZX) then yes.

 

[Salvador]

The G35 Coupe has a longer wheelbase than the Z and because of this, it has a lot different ride. The G35 Coupe actually has the same wheelbase as the G35 Sedan. It just has 2 fewer doors.

The 350Z and G35 share the FM "Front Midship" platform shared by many Nissan's these days. That's how they are able to offer such a great car for the price. They share a lot of parts.

Sal

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: Mani

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: Mani
And for all the people saying that the G is a spruced up Z, a 2+2 Z...etc. - the ONLY things shared between the Z and the G35 is the FM chassis and the engine. So by that logic, you could say the FX35 is just a 4-door SUV version of the Z. See how silly that sounds? The G35C has different suspension, better handling, better braking, yet nicer ride (gotta love it), has 4 seats, lacks the Z's CAI, has an interior which lacks any resemblance to the Z, makes a completely different styling statement inside and out, and feels VERY different when driving (more planted vs. the Z's lighter feel). Both great cars but very different.

Apart from the wheels, interior, and body work, aren't the suspension components the same between the G35 Coupe and Z? I thought they were? In my head, I linked the chassis, engine (didfferent intake), suspension (just different tuning), and brakes (Track pgk Z and G35C Sport). I was under the impression they perform almost the same as well.

The parts, bushings and springs are the same, but the shock tuning is very different. For me though, if the tuning is different it may as well be a different suspension. The brembos are the same, but the tires aren't. (Michelin pilot sports on the G vs continentals on the Z). Performance is similar but again, that's not really a metric you can use to say that they are just different versions of each other. I would say it is apparent they share the same bloodline but they are definitely not twins.

I don't think suyspension tuning would make that much of a diffference to say the suspension is differnet. IF hte geomerty, spring pre-load, camber, etc.. was different..then ya you'd have a point..but just changing dampening (firmness to softness) doens't really make a different suspension. Now if the G35 had double wishbone up front (ala Z32 300ZX) then yes.

I agree that technically, they are still the same. But if they are tuned as differently as the G and Z are, they may as well be different suspensions. Try driving the two cars - the only handling dynamic that they share is their loose rear end. The ride couldn't be more different. Saying that they share their suspension, while technically true, but it doesn't do either car justice. Trust me, I drive a G coupe daily and drove the Z at least 10 times before I finally decided on the G (and still do drive my friend's Z). After driving both you will see why I am saying you can't call the G a 2+2 Z.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

You guys know the G35 coupe has a longer wheelbase than the Z right? Same as the sedan. It's a different car.

 

[her209]

I'd hit it.

 

[EXman]

I wasn't talking about the US market. As a Datsun/Nisan enthusiast, I like to know about htier models. Hell, I even posted a thread a while back on Datsun's history (both racing and prodcution cars). In any case, while the Z label does have a LARGE following and hertiage behind it, you have to realize that the G35 Coupe IS a 2+2 Z with some nice luxury added on. It would be foolish and vain to disregard the G35 Coupe JUST because it doesn't have the Z badge on it. In the same regard, think of the G35 sedan as a 4-door Z (or the older Infiniti J30..althogut that did not share the samy driving dynamics as it was much softer).

Ya I see what you are saying Except this statement "It would be foolish and vain to disregard the G35 Coupe JUST because it doesn't have the Z badge on it." It is the opposite some people cannot stand to buy a Nissan but would buy a premier brand Infiniti G just cause it is an infiniti (a Nissan wouldn't look right at the country club.) So it is the other way around I see it. That make sense? I live in a town where vanity about cars goes to a different level.

One thing though after owning a 1990 Z the Infiniti has to be alot different due to the simple fact if you buy a Infiniti you won't want to deal with the loud road noise and sharp manners inherant for most Z cars. For example when driving in the rain at highway speeds the rear end had almost no sound dampening and all you heard was a roar from the rear of the car. Infiniti owners I doubt would keep a car that was so unrefined. I bet the G is Nice but for refinement and a back seat (which the G's is very tiny) I think I'd look elsewhere.

If someone gave me a G I'd keep it ya I wouldn't complain

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

Originally posted by: EXman

I wasn't talking about the US market. As a Datsun/Nisan enthusiast, I like to know about htier models. Hell, I even posted a thread a while back on Datsun's history (both racing and prodcution cars). In any case, while the Z label does have a LARGE following and hertiage behind it, you have to realize that the G35 Coupe IS a 2+2 Z with some nice luxury added on. It would be foolish and vain to disregard the G35 Coupe JUST because it doesn't have the Z badge on it. In the same regard, think of the G35 sedan as a 4-door Z (or the older Infiniti J30..althogut that did not share the samy driving dynamics as it was much softer).

Ya I see what you are saying Except this statement "It would be foolish and vain to disregard the G35 Coupe JUST because it doesn't have the Z badge on it." It is the opposite some people cannot stand to buy a Nissan but would buy a premier brand Infiniti G just cause it is an infiniti (a Nissan wouldn't look right at the country club.) So it is the other way around I see it. That make sense? I live in a town where vanity about cars goes to a different level.

One thing though after owning a 1990 Z the Infiniti has to be alot different due to the simple fact if you buy a Infiniti you won't want to deal with the loud road noise and sharp manners inherant for most Z cars. For example when driving in the rain at highway speeds the rear end had almost no sound dampening and all you heard was a roar from the rear of the car. Infiniti owners I doubt would keep a car that was so unrefined. I bet the G is Nice but for refinement and a back seat (which the G's is very tiny) I think I'd look elsewhere.

If someone gave me a G I'd keep it ya I wouldn't complain

Well I see what you mean with the country club atmosphere. Luckily, I'm not like that..and live in an area where my friends drive 88 Camrys and Civics (stock) , so to me prestige means nothing.

I know what you mean about the rear end noise in teh rain..my 240SX had osmething similar..u could definatly hear hte drivetrain when your were bogging (doing 35mph in 5th cause u don't want to fishtail on rough roads).

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

Originally posted by: Mani

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: Mani

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: Mani
And for all the people saying that the G is a spruced up Z, a 2+2 Z...etc. - the ONLY things shared between the Z and the G35 is the FM chassis and the engine. So by that logic, you could say the FX35 is just a 4-door SUV version of the Z. See how silly that sounds? The G35C has different suspension, better handling, better braking, yet nicer ride (gotta love it), has 4 seats, lacks the Z's CAI, has an interior which lacks any resemblance to the Z, makes a completely different styling statement inside and out, and feels VERY different when driving (more planted vs. the Z's lighter feel). Both great cars but very different.

Apart from the wheels, interior, and body work, aren't the suspension components the same between the G35 Coupe and Z? I thought they were? In my head, I linked the chassis, engine (didfferent intake), suspension (just different tuning), and brakes (Track pgk Z and G35C Sport). I was under the impression they perform almost the same as well.

The parts, bushings and springs are the same, but the shock tuning is very different. For me though, if the tuning is different it may as well be a different suspension. The brembos are the same, but the tires aren't. (Michelin pilot sports on the G vs continentals on the Z). Performance is similar but again, that's not really a metric you can use to say that they are just different versions of each other. I would say it is apparent they share the same bloodline but they are definitely not twins.

I don't think suyspension tuning would make that much of a diffference to say the suspension is differnet. IF hte geomerty, spring pre-load, camber, etc.. was different..then ya you'd have a point..but just changing dampening (firmness to softness) doens't really make a different suspension. Now if the G35 had double wishbone up front (ala Z32 300ZX) then yes.

I agree that technically, they are still the same. But if they are tuned as differently as the G and Z are, they may as well be different suspensions. Try driving the two cars - the only handling dynamic that they share is their loose rear end. The ride couldn't be more different. Saying that they share their suspension, while technically true, but it doesn't do either car justice. Trust me, I drive a G coupe daily and drove the Z at least 10 times before I finally decided on the G (and still do drive my friend's Z). After driving both you will see why I am saying you can't call the G a 2+2 Z.

I guess your right (since you ahve driven both while I can only dream about getting behind the wheel of one). The reason I brought up my side, is because I compared it to a Maxima SE and GLE...while both have differnet wheel and suspension tuning..they still ride the same (apart from the jarring ride on the bigger wheels0.