2002 Plot to Bomb Liberty Tower Disrupted

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imported_Condor

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
A Link to the Past

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Under the plot, the hijackers were to use shoe bombs to blow open the cockpit door of a commercial jetliner,
take control of the plane and crash it into the Library Tower in Los Angeles, since renamed the US Bank Tower, Bush said.


And another

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The United States and its allies thwarted an al Qaeda plot after the September 11 attacks
to use bombs hidden in shoes to breach the cockpit door of an airplane and fly it into the tallest building in Los Angeles,
President George W. Bush said on Thursday.


?????

Detonation of a 'shoe bomb' would do more than break down the door - it would rupture the cabin resulting
in explosive decompression and kill all on board within minutes, plunging the plane into the ground.
They would have to be nearly on top of the target to even have a slim chance to hit their mark.
Quite a dubious scenario shown there.

I hate to stoop to your level and have been refraining lately but, how would anyone stupid enough to use a shoe bomb know all of that? These are people who are stupid enough to think they can take over the world and have no idea how to run a small country!

 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Condor
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
A Link to the Past

<CLIP-1>
Under the plot, the hijackers were to use shoe bombs to blow open the cockpit door of a commercial jetliner,
take control of the plane and crash it into the Library Tower in Los Angeles, since renamed the US Bank Tower, Bush said.


And another

<CLIP-2>
The United States and its allies thwarted an al Qaeda plot after the September 11 attacks
to use bombs hidden in shoes to breach the cockpit door of an airplane and fly it into the tallest building in Los Angeles,
President George W. Bush said on Thursday.


?????

Detonation of a 'shoe bomb' would do more than break down the door - it would rupture the cabin resulting
in explosive decompression and kill all on board within minutes, plunging the plane into the ground.
They would have to be nearly on top of the target to even have a slim chance to hit their mark.
Quite a dubious scenario shown there.

I hate to reach to your level and have been refraining lately but, how would anyone stupid enough to use a shoe bomb know all of that? These are people who are stupid enough to think they can take over the world and have no idea how to run a small country!

I hate poor spelling.
 

dahunan

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Word Count

Today in his speech he used the combo of

Terruh
Terruhism
Terruhist

NINETY SEVEN TIMES :p:p
 

tommywishbone

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"Since when do flight crew have guns? Did I miss something?"


The FAA has their certification program currently available for pilots to carry guns, but I'd wager doughnuts-to-dollars, that right after 9/11, most pilots carried their guns. I think 90% of US commercial pilots are former military, so they really don't need any stinkin' FAA certification to know how to use a gun... I think that was covered in Basic. ;)

Edit: It's called the, Federal Flight Deck Officer Program, and it was not in place in 2002, but I'd guess if the pilots thought their lives were at stake, they might overlook a small rule like that.
 

drnickriviera

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
?????

Detonation of a 'shoe bomb' would do more than break down the door - it would rupture the cabin resulting
in explosive decompression and kill all on board within minutes, plunging the plane into the ground.
They would have to be nearly on top of the target to even have a slim chance to hit their mark.
Quite a dubious scenario shown there.


Uuhhhh, remember this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloha_Flight_243

 

TallBill

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Originally posted by: tommywishbone
"Since when do flight crew have guns? Did I miss something?"


The FAA has their certification program currently available for pilots to carry guns, but I'd wager doughnuts-to-dollars, that right after 9/11, most pilots carried their guns. I think 90% of US commercial pilots are former military, so they really don't need any stinkin' FAA certification to know how to use a gun... I think that was covered in Basic. ;)

Cool, I didn't know that. Btw, you dont learn how to shoot a handgun in basic though. Being an MP, of course I'm military qualified, but most soldiers are not.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: OrByte
If terrists planned to bomb L.A., someone should have told LA's Mayor

LOL!

Heckuva Job Bushie!!!

No kidding. Haven't we learned the value of inter-agency cooperation on stuff like this? If this specific building in L.A. was a target, f'n get the local authorities involved pronto and keep them on alert. WTF? Is our federal government truly this incompetent?
 
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Originally posted by: tommywishbone
Now it's clear; here's the plan:

1) Take off your shoes while standing next to the cockpit door.
2) Place shoe bombs while being attacked by every single passenger on the plane.
3) Blow up door, while being attacked and beaten to death, and overpower the flight crew and their guns, while you use.... what, harsh language?
4) Fly plane into building after being shot & beaten to death by the flight crew & passengers.

Our president is an idiot.

Yes are president is an idoit. WTF is wrong with you. Was it his plan to use shoe bombs on an airplane to hijack it? NO! Terroists should know by now hijacking a plane won't work because the people on board will kick their a$$.Oh but wait if anything mildy stupid happens it must be because of the idoit of a President we have. Well sir why don't you get off your chair an start campaigning for the presidency because it seems any man with half a brain could do it.

 

imported_Condor

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Condor
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
A Link to the Past

<CLIP-1>
Under the plot, the hijackers were to use shoe bombs to blow open the cockpit door of a commercial jetliner,
take control of the plane and crash it into the Library Tower in Los Angeles, since renamed the US Bank Tower, Bush said.


And another

<CLIP-2>
The United States and its allies thwarted an al Qaeda plot after the September 11 attacks
to use bombs hidden in shoes to breach the cockpit door of an airplane and fly it into the tallest building in Los Angeles,
President George W. Bush said on Thursday.


?????

Detonation of a 'shoe bomb' would do more than break down the door - it would rupture the cabin resulting
in explosive decompression and kill all on board within minutes, plunging the plane into the ground.
They would have to be nearly on top of the target to even have a slim chance to hit their mark.
Quite a dubious scenario shown there.

I hate to reach to your level and have been refraining lately but, how would anyone stupid enough to use a shoe bomb know all of that? These are people who are stupid enough to think they can take over the world and have no idea how to run a small country!

I hate poor spelling.
Sorry, didn't use my $12.00 spell checker. See what your perfect spelling is worth?

 

ericlp

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I am really suprised bush didn't bring this up in TSOTU. I mean pat him on the back! And let's get some photo ops for the government is doing such a great job! WhoooHoooo!


Shhhhhhhhhh! Don't tell anyone tho as the vast majority of US retards believe that the goverment saved the day "AGAIN"!!!!!

Thank you bush!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
 

tommywishbone

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"Yes are president is an idoit. WTF is wrong with you. Was it his plan to use shoe bombs on an airplane to hijack it? NO! Terroists should know by now hijacking a plane won't work because the people on board will kick their a$$.Oh but wait if anything mildy stupid happens it must be because of the idoit of a President we have. Well sir why don't you get off your chair an start campaigning for the presidency because it seems any man with half a brain could do it."

Thank you for your kind words, and encouragement to pursue goverment office. Sadly, my validated criminal history precludes me from seeking the office of President.

My discontent with W's statement, is due to the fact that he actually spoke to the public concerning a "plan" that makes as much sense as building a bridge to Hawaii from California... Could a bridge to Hawaii be built? Perhaps. Is the "plan" even remotely plausible? No, it's a stupid idea, just like the idea that Mr. President tried to sell to the sheep.

I maintain my posistion that Mr. President is an idiot... filthy stinking rich & powerful beyond belief... but an idiot.
 

ericlp

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Originally posted by: tommywishbone
"Yes are president is an idoit. WTF is wrong with you. Was it his plan to use shoe bombs on an airplane to hijack it? NO! Terroists should know by now hijacking a plane won't work because the people on board will kick their a$$.Oh but wait if anything mildy stupid happens it must be because of the idoit of a President we have. Well sir why don't you get off your chair an start campaigning for the presidency because it seems any man with half a brain could do it."
.

Blah...Blah...Blah...

Yeah an idiot could become a president esp if your daddy was VP/President and in turn tells you that if you favor your faith people will follow you and vote for you no matter how retarded you are....

Of course, not many people here have the cash that bush has and the support of daddy to become a president.

Man, dunno why I wrote this. It's pretty much commen sence that bushes Jr seat / ticket was bought and paid for... Anyone can run for president but you will be shown the door unless you got a few billion and a gold cross haning around your neck.

Also lieing and cheating goes a long ways too..... Being a big f**k up also helps.


 

Meuge

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Originally posted by: judasmachine
Just in time for some votes to renew the Patriot Act, and to defend wiretapping.
Shhh... If you oppose the president, you support terrorists. If you support terrorists, you're a terrorist. If you're a terrorist, you relinquish all your civil rights... Prison camp, here you come.
 

gordy

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Villaraigosa's a chode, the idiot was still selling shoes then... the moron's grandstanding on another moron's grandstanding...
 

CaptnKirk

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Originally posted by: drnickriviera
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
?????

Detonation of a 'shoe bomb' would do more than break down the door - it would rupture the cabin resulting
in explosive decompression and kill all on board within minutes, plunging the plane into the ground.
They would have to be nearly on top of the target to even have a slim chance to hit their mark.
Quite a dubious scenario shown there.


Uuhhhh, remember this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloha_Flight_243

Fracture induced mechanical failure is a different world from Explose overpressure induced rupture of a vessel.
Remember this ?
one pound of plastic explosive in a suitcase inside of a metal freight container, inside the lower compartment bay of an aircraft in flight - at altitude.

 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Condor
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
A Link to the Past

<CLIP-1>
Under the plot, the hijackers were to use shoe bombs to blow open the cockpit door of a commercial jetliner,
take control of the plane and crash it into the Library Tower in Los Angeles, since renamed the US Bank Tower, Bush said.


And another

<CLIP-2>
The United States and its allies thwarted an al Qaeda plot after the September 11 attacks
to use bombs hidden in shoes to breach the cockpit door of an airplane and fly it into the tallest building in Los Angeles,
President George W. Bush said on Thursday.


?????

Detonation of a 'shoe bomb' would do more than break down the door - it would rupture the cabin resulting
in explosive decompression and kill all on board within minutes, plunging the plane into the ground.
They would have to be nearly on top of the target to even have a slim chance to hit their mark.
Quite a dubious scenario shown there.

I hate to reach to your level and have been refraining lately but, how would anyone stupid enough to use a shoe bomb know all of that? These are people who are stupid enough to think they can take over the world and have no idea how to run a small country!

I hate poor spelling.

What poor spelling? he said "stoop," not reach. And last time I checked stoop was a word.
 

Votingisanillusion

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bctbct

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Bush thinks we need to spy on people to keep us safe, yet has not sealed the borders OR improve airport security enough to keep weapons off planes. Bravo
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: bctbct
Bush thinks we need to spy on people to keep us safe, yet has not sealed the borders OR improve airport security enough to keep weapons off planes. Bravo

Ding! Winnar!
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: bctbct
Bush thinks we need to spy on people to keep us safe, yet has not sealed the borders OR improve airport security enough to keep weapons off planes. Bravo

Bush likes to sit around the table and spy on old college buddies and political foes drinking a few beers and having a good laugh with Dick and Rove. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.