apoppin
Lifer
Originally posted by: MrCraphead
apoppin and BatmanNate, why don't you share some of your insights into the movie with us?
Sure, what would you like to know?
I didnt get most if the boring movie, and what confused me the most was that loud sound that came and the fetus. I thought,"WTF" said screw it and returned the movie.
Why is Kubric such a freak? i bet he was the one who added that stupid ending to AI, cause without the ending, AI was pretty good.
Why is Kubric such a freak? i bet he was the one who added that stupid ending to AI, cause without the ending, AI was pretty good.
2001 is one of the greatest movies of all time. to those of you that dont realize its greatness - i feel sorry for you as that is probably characterisitc of many things that you fail to appreciate
Perhaps Kubrick didn't want the plot to be too easily understood right away. Perhaps he wanted it to be appreciated by fans long after seeing it and not right then. Like an artist who's work is unappreciated until long after his death. So he wanted it to be a mystery to most people at the time of watching it. This way whenever they unravel the mystery they can greater appreciate the work.
On the other hand, maybe this film should have been longer and cut up into several smaller films as in LOTR and Star Wars. There is just too much left out in a smaller time format. Problem is it was a rare sight to see films done that way then, so perhaps he was actually less of a visionary for not seeing the possibility of a series for this film rather than one continuous obfuscated film.
Or maybe he was going for the film with the most info and least dialog. Wanted to show the viewer the events rather than talk about it because it was explained in the book, and he meant the film to be meaningful only to "the true fans", the ones who took the time to read books. As if to say, if you don't read books you are a numbnut and I want you to be confused as a punishment to your laziness. hehe
btw I left that comment for last for a reason. Want to bet how many lazies here would have missed that because of the length and boredom of the BS I put before it? Even more without this statement right here.
On the other hand, maybe this film should have been longer and cut up into several smaller films as in LOTR and Star Wars. There is just too much left out in a smaller time format. Problem is it was a rare sight to see films done that way then, so perhaps he was actually less of a visionary for not seeing the possibility of a series for this film rather than one continuous obfuscated film.
Or maybe he was going for the film with the most info and least dialog. Wanted to show the viewer the events rather than talk about it because it was explained in the book, and he meant the film to be meaningful only to "the true fans", the ones who took the time to read books. As if to say, if you don't read books you are a numbnut and I want you to be confused as a punishment to your laziness. hehe
btw I left that comment for last for a reason. Want to bet how many lazies here would have missed that because of the length and boredom of the BS I put before it? Even more without this statement right here.
although most people attribute the ending to spielberg.. your right, it was kubric. i did like the ending though. otherwise the story basically is missing the last act. it becomes a story about nothing really, robot that loves goes on quest and sinks to bottom of ocean, the end.
Wasn't the full theatrical release close to four hours long and the version that made it to video/DVD was cut from the full version? I guess my question goes to those who saw both versions: what did they cut? Did the cuts do anymore to explain anything?
(I *think* I'm talking about 2001 but I can't be sure. This was during a Kubrick marathon and one of the DVDs had a built-in intermission. That was freaky.)
(I *think* I'm talking about 2001 but I can't be sure. This was during a Kubrick marathon and one of the DVDs had a built-in intermission. That was freaky.
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Siddhartha
Lifer
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The first time I saw 2001 it blew me away but I did not understand wtf was the point was so I read a lot of Clarke's stuff. I decided that Clarke was saying that an advanced race cared about humans and was watching out for humans. This is not far from what the Christians have been saying.
apoppin
Lifer
Originally posted by: MrCraphead
Could you answer my questions about all the symbolism? and what everything means? lol.
Work is the curse of the "surfing class" . . . I'm back . . . be very specific in your questions and please note quite a lot has already been discussed here that is quite accurate (as well as explore the links given first).
I was just thinking that there is probably a better way of ending it then, well I dont want to ruin the ending, the way it ended.
Venting are we?
AFI lists 2001 as the #22 Best American Movie. Not bad for one's biggest failures.
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