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2000 Egyptian elite archers VS 4000 Elite roman Legions

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Picked up a copy of ROME total war and I was doing some battle simulation on it. Quiet accurate from a historical perspective regarding the armour, weapons, tactics and fighting etc.

So i get up 2000 elite egyptian arhcers on standby on a flat plain, facing them is 4000 roman legions marching towards me.

The romans almost broke the line but my archers owned all of them eventually lol

i wonder if this is historically correct?
 
1 Elite Urban Cohort (the elite of the praetorian guards), 1 roman archer cohort, 1 roman general calvary, 1 battering ram vs
20 greek infantry units in a fort, including 1 elite spartan heavy infantry.

result:
heroic victory - house of julii. over 2000 casualties inflicted on the greeks with only 110 casualties taken.
 
1 Elite Urban Cohort (the elite of the praetorian guards), 1 roman archer cohort, 1 roman general calvary, 1 battering ram vs
20 greek infantry units in a fort, including 1 elite spartan heavy infantry.

result:
heroic victory - house of julii. over 2000 casualties inflicted on the greeks with only 110 casualties taken.
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Something is wrong here... I have played several battles of Spartans vs. Urban Cohort (1v1). It always ends up the Cohort winning, but they only have 3-8 guys left. No way they can take on another 19 units, even with the help of an archer and general unit.

Were you playing on Easy?
 
New game or can I find it cheaply?

Yes, I'm behind the times as far as games go....don't have a whole lot of time to devote to gaming anymore.
 
Originally posted by: datalink7
Something is wrong here... I have played several battles of Spartans vs. Urban Cohort (1v1). It always ends up the Cohort winning, but they only have 3-8 guys left. No way they can take on another 19 units, even with the help of an archer and general unit.

Were you playing on Easy?
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did you max out their unit veterancy, weapons, and armors? also, where they properly formed up when attacked? i had my cohort in the fort positioned between 2 buildings with the archers behind it. they held like a brick wall. it was a massacre. the greeks dead were everywhere, you couldn't see the ground at all. the cavalry would strike from the rear repeatedly and guard the flanks. in the end, the archers end up being routed, and the cavarly was almost gone (like 4 left). the cohort held though.
 
btw, to the op: did you form the turtle when charging the archers? if you did, it would have been a massacre of them.
 
Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: datalink7
Something is wrong here... I have played several battles of Spartans vs. Urban Cohort (1v1). It always ends up the Cohort winning, but they only have 3-8 guys left. No way they can take on another 19 units, even with the help of an archer and general unit.

Were you playing on Easy?
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did you max out their unit veterancy, weapons, and armors? also, where they properly formed up when attacked? i had my cohort in the fort positioned between 2 buildings with the archers behind it. they held like a brick wall. it was a massacre. the greeks dead were everywhere, you couldn't see the ground at all. the cavalry would strike from the rear repeatedly and guard the flanks. in the end, the archers end up being routed, and the cavarly was almost gone (like 4 left). the cohort held though.
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It was max Urban Cohort Veterancy, Max Armor, Max Weapons
vs.
Max Spartan Veterancey, Silver Armor, Silver Weapons (this made them an equal ammount of points).

How did you manage to get inside the fort and in between two buildings? Didn't they defend where you breached the wall with the battering ram?
 
Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: datalink7
Something is wrong here... I have played several battles of Spartans vs. Urban Cohort (1v1). It always ends up the Cohort winning, but they only have 3-8 guys left. No way they can take on another 19 units, even with the help of an archer and general unit.

Were you playing on Easy?
Click to expand...

did you max out their unit veterancy, weapons, and armors? also, where they properly formed up when attacked? i had my cohort in the fort positioned between 2 buildings with the archers behind it. they held like a brick wall. it was a massacre. the greeks dead were everywhere, you couldn't see the ground at all. the cavalry would strike from the rear repeatedly and guard the flanks. in the end, the archers end up being routed, and the cavarly was almost gone (like 4 left). the cohort held though.
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It was max Urban Cohort Veterancy, Max Armor, Max Weapons
vs.
Max Spartan Veterancey, Silver Armor, Silver Weapons (this made them an equal ammount of points).

How did you manage to get inside the fort and in between two buildings? Didn't they defend where you breached the wall with the battering ram?
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they tried, but everytime the came forward the archers arrows sent them running back. i sent the elite cohort in double-time. it formed up just in time for their charge. they tried to outflank me but my cavalry smashed them. by then my archers had moved up behind the cohort and the massacre started. their general was killed early on by the cohort.

 
That's like the Brittons in AOE. I used to march huge units of archers around, and just slaughter all who came near me.
 
Originally posted by: Feldenak
New game or can I find it cheaply?

Yes, I'm behind the times as far as games go....don't have a whole lot of time to devote to gaming anymore.
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No, it's a new game and thus still at new game prices.
 
Originally posted by: MogulMonster
That's like the Brittons in AOE. I used to march huge units of archers around, and just slaughter all who came near me.
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yes the longbows were lethal in AOE, have to guard them with spears tho.

If the romans would of got into the testudo formation, they would of won. In reality archers alone will not stop the legion. Why? once they get close enought the archers in the rear will have no direct line of fire due to fellow archers. If they spread out, they will die even quicker.
 
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Does it do the Half RTS/Half turn-based thing like the Total War prior to this one?

How is the multiplay?
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Its the same half turn/half RTS as previously. Haven't tried multiplayer yet.
 
Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Does it do the Half RTS/Half turn-based thing like the Total War prior to this one?

How is the multiplay?
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Its the same half turn/half RTS as previously. Haven't tried multiplayer yet.
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i haven't tried MP either. someone should get a game going.
 
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Does it do the Half RTS/Half turn-based thing like the Total War prior to this one?

How is the multiplay?
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Yes, it is the same kind of gameplay, but on a whole different level.

Think M:TW on crack. Lots of crack.
 
Originally posted by: MogulMonster
That's like the Brittons in AOE. I used to march huge units of archers around, and just slaughter all who came near me.
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That IS accurate, though. British longbow formations were damn near unstoppable during the 100 years war because they were powerful enough to kill French knights with a single shot. Egyptian archers against a turtle formation of Romans however, forget about it.
 
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