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20 years from now, will GWB be remembered as a Hero or a Tyrant?

I've wondered this same thing (it should be tyrant) but it all comes down to who writes the text books.
 
How about we just settle for (retarded idiot)?

Dunno why we have these polls, as the outcome is always the same.

 
I don't think even one former American president has a widespread reputation as a tyrant. 20 years from now people will remember George W. Bush as "oh yeah, I remember him".
 
Originally posted by: kogase
I don't think even one former American president has a widespread reputation as a tyrant. 20 years from now people will remember George W. Bush as "oh yeah, I remember him".
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I respectectfully disagree with Kogase------GWB has set America on a new international course as an agressor nation. Either this agression will suceed leaving the rest of the rest of the world to unite against us as a lone standing superpower. Or the United States will reverse course, mend fences, and have a hope of a future.

But power does not always eminate from the barrel of a gun------but rather from economic might partly measured by industrial output and by a favorable balance of trade.-----two problems Bush is making undenialably worse at present.-----leaving China to be the ascendant nation-------with a lenders power of life and death.-----do as I say or I cut off your credit.

Love him or hate him-----GWB will be remembered by history books.
 
A somewhat good point daveshel,

The last leaders born before the dawn of the nuclear age are slowly passing. ---without signs that
mankind is any less piggish.-----if anything tehnology has just made efficent mass murder far easier for any leader to acheive.

Sadly the smartbomb, although a convention munition, has allowed a technologically advanced nation able to really project air-power-------with just one air craft carrier the United States can now make any nation on earth really hurt-----where before the same damage could only be acheived with thousands of sorties by far heavier land based only planes using dumb bombs.-----a far more daunting and logistically time consuming process.

The fastest way to remove that blackmail hovering over any nations head is to join the nuclear club.
As many are now doing to counterbalance an increaing agressive United States.. Its only a matter of time before someone does the unthinkable and uses nukes. I certainly would not trust a nut like GWB with a BB gun------its only a matter of time before some real nut somewhere uses a nuke.-----with no shortage of advisors urging exactly that in the name of God.
 
I don't think tyrant is appropriate, nor do I think idiot is applicable.

Bush hasn't oppressed the American people along the lines of what historically and traditionally defines a tyrant.

Those who dismiss him as an idiot are the same ones wondering why Kerry lost.

I do think that the Bush Presidency will be one of extensive speculation and discussion, as historians and pundits will continue to debate his decision to invade Iraq.

Bush will always be defined by Iraq, and his Presidency will be judged by its outcome.
 
None of the above.


A power-hungry president that utilized fear and propaganda to push his agenda but failed in almost every respect except getting tax cuts for the rich.
 
You need to extend that to about 75-100 years, but in the end, yes, history will recognize his contribution as heroic. His attempts to stabalize the Greater ME are some of the most important in all of history. If successful,(that is, if everyone stays the course), it will be wonderful to behold a strong and stable ME...

flame away...
 
I was looking for "moron who adheared to the constitution until he didn't feel like it and is responsible for 10,000's of needless deaths due to his lying and complete incompetence"
 
Originally posted by: magomago
How about everyone forgets and really doesn't care? American public has a short memory
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In twenty years, I'll be 84, and I hope I have a memory. For now, I remember what a dispicable sh8 Nixon was because I was an adult who paid attention, then, and I'm as I am of anything that the Bushwhackos are far more malevolent, both in their tactics and their end goals.

Another adult who's quite qualifed to comment is Nixon's Whitehouse counsel, John Dean, who wrote a book about it, Worse Than Watergate. The opening paragraphs from the preface say a lot:
George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney have created the most secretive presidency of my lifetime. Their secrecy is far worse than during Watergate, and it bodes even more serious consequences. Their secrecy is extreme?not merely unjustified and excessive but obsessive. It has created a White House that hides its president's weaknesses as well as its vice president's strengths.

It has given us a presidency that operates on hidden agendas. To protect their secrets, Bush and Cheney dissemble as a matter of policy. In fact, the Bush-Cheney presidency is strikingly Nixonian, only with regard to secrecy far worse (and no one will ever successfully accuse me of being a Nixon apologist). Dick Cheney, who runs his own secret governmental operations, openly declares that he wants to turn the clock back to the pre-Watergate years?a time of an unaccountable and extraconstitutional imperial presidency. To say that their secret presidency is undemocratic is an understatement.
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The book was published in 2004. The preface also contains this remarkably prescient paragraph:
To compare the Bush-Cheney presidency with Nixon's tenure and Watergate and assert that it is worse than Watergate is not a charge to be made lightly. Nor do I?Watergate symbolizes totally unacceptable presidential behavior. Dictionary definitions of the term Watergate typically describe this unacceptable conduct as the abuse of presidential power, or high office, for political purposes. Watergate, of course, was a very messy presidential scandal and a political disaster for Nixon. Certainly no comparable scandal has occurred during the Bush-Cheney tenure?at least not yet. Scandals have a way of smoldering before erupting, as has occurred with every major presidential scandal?Teapot Dome, Watergate, Iran-Contra, and L'affaire Lewinsky. There are simply too many problems rumbling just below the surface of the Bush-Cheney presidency to avoid making the comparison.
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Umm... Valerie Plame... Karl Rove... Scooter Libby... Jack Abramoff... Tom DeLay... Bill Frist... Haliburton profiteering on "no bid" contracts in Iraq... FEMA's inept and unprepared response to Katrina...

Yer doin' a heck of a job, Bushie! :roll:
 
I think Bush will be remember as the one who started it all. Its the next administration that I am afraid will be worse.
 
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