20 People Massacred at Istanbul Synagogue, Al Qaeda Suspected
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Man, so now they targetting place of worship. I guess next thing is blowing up churches.....gosh I wish we could fried em in pig's oil and condemn for eternity.
I've never heard of racial tensions b/n Jews and Muslims in Turkey. Reports say its probably not a local job.
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
thats just low.
nothing new
Yeah, just typical Muslim/Arab behavior, was to be expected.
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I think "plain old anti-semitism" is far to simplistic and probably an inaccurate term to describe Al Qaedas motivations.
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You may be right to a certain extent, however I fail to see what kind of political point this makes. They murdered some Jews, plain and simple. What else did they accomplish?
The majority of the people killed were not Jews.
They threw down the gauntlet and openly exposed weakness in the Turkish government which is staunchly secular and has been engaged in a vigorous campaign to crush any Islamic extemists in the country. The forced the Turkish prime minister to return home from a visit to Cypress. Turkish tourism and other trade will probably go down as a result of this attack, the government will have to engage in a crackdown possibly alienating and encouraging more to joing the extremsists side etc.
It exposes weakness and causes chaos. Same tactics they are using in Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Afghanistan etc. The fact that the soft target in this case was a synagogue was probably just a bonus for them. It all goes along with thier stated intention to #1 drive Western influences from the region #2 Topple the non-islamic and despotic regimes in the region. It makes perfect polictical sense IMHO.
This is much much bigger than just "murdering some Jews".
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They targeted two synagouges, not one. It wasn't just a "soft target" it was the intentional targeting of Jewish places of prayer on the Shabbat during prayer times. Let's not be naive, they were trying to kill Jews. The fact that most of those who died were not Jews just shows that terrorists don't always achive their objectives as well as they want to. If you would have told me that the political point they were trying to make was to break the Turkish Government's dealings with the Israeli government, I may have bought that. But to say that the fact that it was a synagouge was just a bonus is way off base. Just MHO.
Allright, I didn't mean to imply that they were not trying to kill Jews...I do however think that the actual target is the Turkish government with the Jews as a medium for this attack.
you knowledge of turkish politics is a little thin...
the current goverment (consisting at its highest levels of members of a formerly banned islamist party) is attempting to change the constitution, pack the courts, and install their own cronies in positions of power all over the goverment and in the military...in an effort to "islamicise" the country.
this is a direct attack upon the founding principles of the Turkish Republic, which legally separates church and state to a degree more than even in the U.S.
the current goverment is not popular with "the man in the street" and won office because of the crazy quilt multi-party system in Turkey
it will be most interesting to see how the turkish goverment reacts to this tragedy.
Turks are not "arabs".
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Turkey was the first Country/State to recognize Israel as a country.
There has been little , but some scattered derogatory actions there,
not unlike that within our own country.
IF (That's a big IF) is was in fact carried out by an al-Queda cell,
that would be more fuel on the fire of political instability of the Middle East.
Another localized political statement against the US presence in the region.
Which ever group of terrorists or militant rebels - what ever tag you want to hang on them,
they will keep blowing things up. Always have - always will.
It's their badge of Honor. Their culture not ours.
There has been little , but some scattered derogatory actions there,
not unlike that within our own country.
IF (That's a big IF) is was in fact carried out by an al-Queda cell,
that would be more fuel on the fire of political instability of the Middle East.
Another localized political statement against the US presence in the region.
Which ever group of terrorists or militant rebels - what ever tag you want to hang on them,
they will keep blowing things up. Always have - always will.
It's their badge of Honor. Their culture not ours.
How is the bombing of synagogues in Turkey a statement "against the US presence in the region"? Turkey would not even allow the US to use their airspace in attacks against Iraq.
One of the two synagogues bombed was bombed before in '86 and had relatively high security. So the terrorists had to go out of their way to bomb it again.
One of the two synagogues bombed was bombed before in '86 and had relatively high security. So the terrorists had to go out of their way to bomb it again.
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