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20 injured in Waukesha SUV Rams into parade crowd

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ch33zw1z said:
Ah man, he was just about to unveil the race realism argument too
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People like you would be well served by enrolling in a class or two at your local community college. You can even do this online now, to make it easy. I would recommend a class in mathematics, chemistry, or physics. Courses like that teach you how to think logically. Logical thinkers have less of a tendency to make themselves look foolish by blurting out emotional nonsense.

So, 10 seconds of Googling unearths the fact that California's poverty level is about mid-pack through 2021, as is to be expected based on the posted data through 2020.
google it

The BusinessInsider link that is mentioned earlier in this thread speaks to the supplemental poverty level, which is not what anyone else was talking about, but was nonetheless thrown into this conversation.
Also not mentioned, but readily apparent to anyone who spent 15 seconds reading the BusinessInsider link, is the fact that the SPL in California has actually decreased from 2018 to 2020.
So now that the poverty myth has been thoroughly debunked, how 'bout we take another stab at the original question:
"So what's changed? Why do we suddenly have roving bands of thieves raiding stores? Why are car break-ins up 700% in SF? "
 
railer said:
People like you would be well served by enrolling in a class or two at your local community college. You can even do this online now, to make it easy. I would recommend a class in mathematics, chemistry, or physics. Courses like that teach you how to think logically. Logical thinkers have less of a tendency to make themselves look foolish by blurting out emotional nonsense.

So, 10 seconds of Googling unearths the fact that California's poverty level is about mid-pack through 2021, as is to be expected based on the posted data through 2020.
google it

The BusinessInsider link that is mentioned earlier in this thread speaks to the supplemental poverty level, which is not what anyone else was talking about, but was nonetheless thrown into this conversation.
Also not mentioned, but readily apparent to anyone who spent 15 seconds reading the BusinessInsider link, is the fact that the SPL in California has actually decreased from 2018 to 2020.
So now that the poverty myth has been thoroughly debunked, how 'bout we take another stab at the original question:
"So what's changed? Why do we suddenly have roving bands of thieves raiding stores? Why are car break-ins up 700% in SF? "
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Supplemental poverty measure more accurately represents the desperation that leads to crime. You don't get to just hand-wave it away because you don't agree with it. It takes into account COL expenses, which are ridiculously high in CA.
 
dank69 said:
Supplemental poverty measure more accurately represents the desperation that leads to crime. You don't get to just hand-wave it away because you don't agree with it. It takes into account COL expenses, which are ridiculously high in CA.
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Best way to fix the problem in CA...
* Pass a California law where the state will pay for the utility and rent/mortgage fees for low income families.
* Remove state sales tax on purchases or items greater than $50.
* Also, remove all business taxes on businesses that make a profit less than $100K, after including the costs of business operation costs and bills.
* Remove gas, diesel, and jet fuel tax.
* Pass a California law that prohibits rent increase. Your last rent bill in a rental place will never be more than the initial rent bill.
* Pass a California law that prohibits community or state colleges from asking for fees from those who belong to families who live bellow the poverty line.

To pay for all that CA will have to do the following...
* Pass a bill called "Fuel Waster Tax" that requires civilian aircraft owners in the state of California to pay a yearly fee of $1K, for every aircraft that they currently possess that is registered in California. An additional amount of another $1M will be added to the previously stated amount for every aircraft whose empty weight is more than 60,000lbs and is operated for non-commercial purposes. Failure to pay in full will cause the impounding off all aircrafts owned. Hollywood not exempt.
* "Fuel Waster Tax" will also require vehicle owners that own an non-commercial and non-recreational vehicle that has a manufacturers city mpg rating less than 20 mpg, to pay $1k per such vehicle, every year that they own the vehicle(s). Failure to pay in full will lead to impounding of vehicle(s) owned. Hollywood not exempt.
* Pass a bill called "Mansion Tax" that requires all mansion owners to pay a yearly tax of 5% of the value of the mansion, or 1% of the value of monthly mortgage payments. Once again, Hollywood not exempt.
 
railer said:
People like you would be well served by enrolling in a class or two at your local community college. You can even do this online now, to make it easy. I would recommend a class in mathematics, chemistry, or physics. Courses like that teach you how to think logically. Logical thinkers have less of a tendency to make themselves look foolish by blurting out emotional nonsense.

So, 10 seconds of Googling unearths the fact that California's poverty level is about mid-pack through 2021, as is to be expected based on the posted data through 2020.
google it

The BusinessInsider link that is mentioned earlier in this thread speaks to the supplemental poverty level, which is not what anyone else was talking about, but was nonetheless thrown into this conversation.
Also not mentioned, but readily apparent to anyone who spent 15 seconds reading the BusinessInsider link, is the fact that the SPL in California has actually decreased from 2018 to 2020.
So now that the poverty myth has been thoroughly debunked, how 'bout we take another stab at the original question:
"So what's changed? Why do we suddenly have roving bands of thieves raiding stores? Why are car break-ins up 700% in SF? "
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People like you should take their own advice.
 
railer said:
So now that the poverty myth has been thoroughly debunked, how 'bout we take another stab at the original question:
"So what's changed? Why do we suddenly have roving bands of thieves raiding stores? Why are car break-ins up 700% in SF? "
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In what mother !@#$ing fantasy does COVID and lockdowns for two years, debunk poverty as a much worsening issue, perhaps a crisis, in 2021?
 
Jaskalas said:
In what mother !@#$ing fantasy does COVID and lockdowns for two years, debunk poverty as a much worsening issue, perhaps a crisis, in 2021?
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Good grief. Did covid only affect SF? Or did it also affect the world? That's not a difficult question. Did you see that the SPL actual DECREASED in CA from 2018 to 2020? Were there roving bands of looters in 2018, 2019, or 2020?
So what changed is the question?
If some of you guys spent a tenth as much time thinking critically as you did trying to come up with labels and insults for people on this forum that are more informed and logical than your are, your lives would be better.
 
Homerboy said:
My family was involved in this. My nephew was marching in the Waukesha South HS band that got hit. He's literally saved because the POS decided to go left instead of keeping straight when he plowed into them. I will not watch any of these videos in full length. I can't. There's another angle of this from curbside with my nephew front and center and you can see the car swerve behind him and go left.

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I talked to both my sisters who were there as it happened - right in front of them. My BIL pulled bloodied instruments off the road. My sister had to call parents for kids that were too shook-up themselves to do it. They were horribly shaken by the whole thing. Friends of theirs are still in surgery this morning. Just horrible, horrible stuff.

BIL was quoted in the NYT and on Good Morning America. Anger. Sadness. Disbelief. Mostly anger though. Ironically anger that there's so much anger and violence in the world. I dunno WTF is going on anymore. This crap is unsustainable. Even if the guy was feeling from a previous crime (reportedly a stabbing) that's just more anger and violence.

We really need to give this place back to the plants on and animals. We've failed miserably.
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Homerboy said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1462756710473510926

BIL at 49 secs
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That only showed the pickup before and after the incedent, and only before hitting the crowd. Here is a GIF image of the incident from a top view.

Violent GIF of incident removed out of respect for those more intimately involved.

Perknose
Forum Director

Here is a link to the news article (it is writen in English).
 
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Amol S. said:
Best way to fix the problem in CA...
* Pass a California law where the state will pay for the utility and rent/mortgage fees for low income families.
* Remove state sales tax on purchases or items greater than $50.
* Also, remove all business taxes on businesses that make a profit less than $100K, after including the costs of business operation costs and bills.
* Remove gas, diesel, and jet fuel tax.
* Pass a California law that prohibits rent increase. Your last rent bill in a rental place will never be more than the initial rent bill.
* Pass a California law that prohibits community or state colleges from asking for fees from those who belong to families who live bellow the poverty line.

To pay for all that CA will have to do the following...
* Pass a bill called "Fuel Waster Tax" that requires civilian aircraft owners in the state of California to pay a yearly fee of $1K, for every aircraft that they currently possess that is registered in California. An additional amount of another $1M will be added to the previously stated amount for every aircraft whose empty weight is more than 60,000lbs and is operated for non-commercial purposes. Failure to pay in full will cause the impounding off all aircrafts owned. Hollywood not exempt.
* "Fuel Waster Tax" will also require vehicle owners that own an non-commercial and non-recreational vehicle that has a manufacturers city mpg rating less than 20 mpg, to pay $1k per such vehicle, every year that they own the vehicle(s). Failure to pay in full will lead to impounding of vehicle(s) owned. Hollywood not exempt.
* Pass a bill called "Mansion Tax" that requires all mansion owners to pay a yearly tax of 5% of the value of the mansion, or 1% of the value of monthly mortgage payments. Once again, Hollywood not exempt.
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Your stupidity is breathtaking, but thank you for showing us all just how bad it is.
 
Amol S. said:
Best way to fix the problem in CA...
* Pass a California law where the state will pay for the utility and rent/mortgage fees for low income families.
* Remove state sales tax on purchases or items greater than $50.
* Also, remove all business taxes on businesses that make a profit less than $100K, after including the costs of business operation costs and bills.
* Remove gas, diesel, and jet fuel tax.
* Pass a California law that prohibits rent increase. Your last rent bill in a rental place will never be more than the initial rent bill.
* Pass a California law that prohibits community or state colleges from asking for fees from those who belong to families who live bellow the poverty line.

To pay for all that CA will have to do the following...
* Pass a bill called "Fuel Waster Tax" that requires civilian aircraft owners in the state of California to pay a yearly fee of $1K, for every aircraft that they currently possess that is registered in California. An additional amount of another $1M will be added to the previously stated amount for every aircraft whose empty weight is more than 60,000lbs and is operated for non-commercial purposes. Failure to pay in full will cause the impounding off all aircrafts owned. Hollywood not exempt.
* "Fuel Waster Tax" will also require vehicle owners that own an non-commercial and non-recreational vehicle that has a manufacturers city mpg rating less than 20 mpg, to pay $1k per such vehicle, every year that they own the vehicle(s). Failure to pay in full will lead to impounding of vehicle(s) owned. Hollywood not exempt.
* Pass a bill called "Mansion Tax" that requires all mansion owners to pay a yearly tax of 5% of the value of the mansion, or 1% of the value of monthly mortgage payments. Once again, Hollywood not exempt.
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Rent control is a terrible idea. It’s basically the rent version of prop 13.
 
emperus said:
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This image encapsulates the current GOP. Why are Kyle and his mom being celebrated? Jesus, our society is Fucked.
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It's amazing how shit attracts shit.

We have in the middle one of the biggest pieces of shit in America, and to the right a nice up and coming piece of shit.

This is the GQP now. Various degrees of excrement. And the ones that make Trump's orbit, are especially stinky piles of crap, like that little sociopath.
 
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Amol S. said:
That only showed the pickup before and after the incedent, and only before hitting the crowd. Here is a GIF image of the incident from a top view.


Here is a link to the news article (it is writen in English).
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I know. Did you read my post? I DON'T WANT TO WATCH THIS SHIT. And you posted an animated gif that auto-plays? Thanks a lot.
 
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Amol S. said:
Best way to fix the problem in CA...
* Pass a California law where the state will pay for the utility and rent/mortgage fees for low income families.
* Remove state sales tax on purchases or items greater than $50.
* Also, remove all business taxes on businesses that make a profit less than $100K, after including the costs of business operation costs and bills.
* Remove gas, diesel, and jet fuel tax.
* Pass a California law that prohibits rent increase. Your last rent bill in a rental place will never be more than the initial rent bill.
* Pass a California law that prohibits community or state colleges from asking for fees from those who belong to families who live bellow the poverty line.

To pay for all that CA will have to do the following...
* Pass a bill called "Fuel Waster Tax" that requires civilian aircraft owners in the state of California to pay a yearly fee of $1K, for every aircraft that they currently possess that is registered in California. An additional amount of another $1M will be added to the previously stated amount for every aircraft whose empty weight is more than 60,000lbs and is operated for non-commercial purposes. Failure to pay in full will cause the impounding off all aircrafts owned. Hollywood not exempt.
* "Fuel Waster Tax" will also require vehicle owners that own an non-commercial and non-recreational vehicle that has a manufacturers city mpg rating less than 20 mpg, to pay $1k per such vehicle, every year that they own the vehicle(s). Failure to pay in full will lead to impounding of vehicle(s) owned. Hollywood not exempt.
* Pass a bill called "Mansion Tax" that requires all mansion owners to pay a yearly tax of 5% of the value of the mansion, or 1% of the value of monthly mortgage payments. Once again, Hollywood not exempt.
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Crack open a spreadsheet, plug in CA's budget numbers and income, then come back and explain how this would work for the second month.
 
And the driver, Darrell Brooks, has been convicted of first-degree intentional homicide, 6 counts plus 61 counts of recklessly endangering safety with the use of a dangerous weapon, six counts of fatal hit and run, two counts of felony bail jumping and one count of misdemeanor domestic battery. He faces a mandatory life sentence for the convictions.

Couldn't happen to a more deserving person.

www.cnn.com

Man who drove SUV into Waukesha Christmas parade found guilty of intentional homicide | CNN

Darrell Brooks was found guilty of six counts of first-degree intentional homicide on Wednesday for driving his SUV into a crowd of Christmas parade attendees in Waukesha, Wisconsin, last November, killing six people and wounding dozens more.
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eelw said:
But it’s insane, he defended himself.
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He fired his public defender, and then tried to turn the courtroom into a circus with his antics. The Judge and jury didn't fall for it, big shocker there. Glad the sentence is mandatory life for each of the 6 counts of murder. No death penalty in WI, but he'll not see freedom again.
 
The judge in this case deserves a fucking medal of honor.

That lunatic did everything he could to get her to bite and for it to be a mistrial. She LITERALLY had a staring contest with him and won. How she maintained her cool and calm and professionalism through this whole thing is beyond me.

May he rot in jail (and then hell if there is one)
 
Pohemi said:
He fired his public defender, and then tried to turn the courtroom into a circus with his antics. The Judge and jury didn't fall for it, big shocker there. Glad the sentence is mandatory life for each of the 6 counts of murder. No death penalty in WI, but he'll not see freedom again.
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Mind you, I'm pretty sure the public defender was happy to distance themselves from this trial. I'm all for giving people fair representation, but you just know that attorney was dreading a case with a horrible client virtually guaranteed to serve life in prison.
 
Commodus said:
Mind you, I'm pretty sure the public defender was happy to distance themselves from this trial. I'm all for giving people fair representation, but you just know that attorney was dreading a case with a horrible client virtually guaranteed to serve life in prison.
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At that point I suspect the public defender is just there as a babysitter, to ensure the rights of the defendant aren't actively violated, and ensure they don't do something phenomenally stupid. Well, until they get fired anyhow.
 
allisolm said:
And the driver, Darrell Brooks, has been convicted of first-degree intentional homicide, 6 counts plus 61 counts of recklessly endangering safety with the use of a dangerous weapon, six counts of fatal hit and run, two counts of felony bail jumping and one count of misdemeanor domestic battery. He faces a mandatory life sentence for the convictions.

Couldn't happen to a more deserving person.

www.cnn.com

Man who drove SUV into Waukesha Christmas parade found guilty of intentional homicide | CNN

Darrell Brooks was found guilty of six counts of first-degree intentional homicide on Wednesday for driving his SUV into a crowd of Christmas parade attendees in Waukesha, Wisconsin, last November, killing six people and wounding dozens more.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com
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(Scan) reading that article, I can't see any indication as to motive. Is there any explanation as to why he did this? He sounds nuts (I-am-not-a-psychiatrist disclaimer), but I guess legally he was not found to be insane, so is there any suggestion as to what he imagined he was accomplishing with this?
 
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