20/20 last night

[Excelsior]

My point is that I'm sick of all the people who said it was stupid to live in New Orleans. The city did the best they could to protect itself. Everyone in this country lives in an area that is prone to some form of Natural Disaster, whether it be fire, flood, hurricane, blizzard, tornado, earthquick, or freak 30' wave of Molasses. The point is, everyone is in danger of something no matter where you live. You just take your chances and make life the best that it can be.

That is irrelevant when one area is far more prone to those natural disasters than another. California w/ Earthquakes, Tornado Alley, Florida/Gulf Coast w/ Hurricanes.

It just so happened that many knew that NO was at serious risk for something like Katrina to happen, but they didn't give a damn. They stayed anyway.

If I lived in Florida, I wouldn't bitch everytime a hurricane came through...same thing with some of the folks in Tornado Alley who seemingly have their house blown away every other year.

 

[Kev]

I think the greatest threat to the human race is the emergence and proliferation of ManBearPigs.

 

[Syrch]

Originally posted by: pinion9

Originally posted by: lokiju
I think a little piece of me died from reading this thread.

Oh, you hardly used that piece anyway, and when you did, you abused it.

bwhahahahah

 

[DaWhim]

I just read an article about those guys in greenland actually can farm now. yea, that's global warming for them.

linky: http://service.spiegel.de/cache/interna...al/spiegel/0,1518,druck-434356,00.html

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: pinion9

Originally posted by: sinucus
And who buys land where massive earthquakes can destroy your home?
Los Angeles: Population, 2005 estimate 9,935,475!

<---- Lives in interior Alaska. Very low risk of natural disasters. We do have a LOT of earthquakes, but they are generally very small (imperceivable to humans) OR they are located in an unpopulated area.

Except for the occasional 7.9 eh?

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead

Originally posted by: pinion9

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: pinion9

Originally posted by: StarGazerVSP
Isn't the lack of sunlight in the winter depressing.

I don't think so. We often have very long dusks/dawns, meaning it isn't considered sunlight because the sun isn't over the horizon, but it is still light out. Why do people think sun is an anti-depressant? What is so depressing about short daylight hours?

Never heard of S.A.D.? Text

I have, and I don't believe in it. Normal well adjusted people with healthy lifestyles generally are not affected by such a thing, in my experience.

Agreed. and I think part of the misconception is that the findings suggesting the occurrence of S.A.D. increases as latitude increases, don't take into account that as latitude increases, you also find (generally) smaller population centers, weaker education facilities, less adequate medical facilities... and especially in Alaska this is very evident. So even without SAD, going farther north puts you around people who don't have the same quality of life most of us do. They're likely to be less normal, less well-adjusted anyway. So continuing on this slippery slope, more people in the north are susceptible to SAD but not because they're "north" so much as because there are simply a higher percentage of people susceptible to it in the first place. Ow, I made my head hurt.

But personally... it doesn't affect me, and by my profession I've spent lots of time in nearly every city in Alaska, from Anchorage to Barrow to Juneau to Kotzebue to Shemya to Adak to... well, everywhere. There are plenty of balanced folks in Barrow just as there are here, but there's also a lot of weird ones there... More so than in Anchortown.

Yeah, I've never had a problem with it. 33 years in Alaska and I've come to the conclusion that S.A.D. is a catch-all excuse for a lot of things. People get depressed and don't want to do anythig about it... So they claim to have SAD. That way it's not their fault, it's out of their control and there's nothing for them to do about it.

 

[pinion9]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: pinion9

Originally posted by: sinucus
And who buys land where massive earthquakes can destroy your home?
Los Angeles: Population, 2005 estimate 9,935,475!

<---- Lives in interior Alaska. Very low risk of natural disasters. We do have a LOT of earthquakes, but they are generally very small (imperceivable to humans) OR they are located in an unpopulated area.

Except for the occasional 7.9 eh?

Lack of populated areas FTW. I think with the last real big one, 1 person broke their arm. I didn't even feel it

 

[MotionMan]

When I was in school, I learned about the impending Ice Age (no, not the movie).
My kids will learn about the impending Global Warming.
I guess my grandkids will learn about the impending Ice Age again.

Reminds me of the line from 1984: "We are at war with Oceana, we have always been at war with Oceana." Except, that we have not always been at war with Oceana, and we have not and will not always be at risk of Global Warming. Wait a few years and we can all fear an Ice Age again.

MotionMan

 

[Al Neri]

Originally posted by: Syrch
Any watch this special I Found it very interesting. Basically it had the top 10 ways that our civilization can end today and the #1 way is global warming and it seems to be a much bigger threat than I imagined.

The glaciers in the antartic and what not are melting at such a high rate that most of japan/china and part of US such as Florida, New Orleans etc would be gone. London would be no more as well. They said its predicted that 100 million people would be come refugee and they compared tha tto the 100 thousand people that were refugee after Katrina (no this isn't a katrina thread i promise). They said that the melting has increased drastically and this is a very real threat and can be as early as 50-100 years from now.

Heres a link to an article of it from their site....like i said, this really was a wake up call to me.

a larger problem is the lack of HTML skills by the web designer, see <title> having a <br> tag in it.

 

[DaShen]

Yes, this has been known by most all Geo scientists for quite some time now.

 

[giantpinkbunnyhead]

Originally posted by: pinion9

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: pinion9

Originally posted by: sinucus
And who buys land where massive earthquakes can destroy your home?
Los Angeles: Population, 2005 estimate 9,935,475!

<---- Lives in interior Alaska. Very low risk of natural disasters. We do have a LOT of earthquakes, but they are generally very small (imperceivable to humans) OR they are located in an unpopulated area.

Except for the occasional 7.9 eh?

Lack of populated areas FTW. I think with the last real big one, 1 person broke their arm. I didn't even feel it

I felt it here in Anchorage. It was weird. It was a very pronounced undulating motion, but super super smooth, like lying on a waterbed. The fact that it lasted six minutes was odd. After two or three minutes, I was like "Hmm... this isn't gonna stop... oh well" and went back to playing my video game. It was like playing while drunk, while not drunk.

Hehe... just noticed we have three Alaskans in this thread!

 

[andylawcc]

Originally posted by: yllus
I hope global warming does pick up speed. I'm tired of really cold winters up here in Canada.

California.

 

[imported_Beavis]

Originally posted by: cw42
I like the disaster where the Earth gets sucked up by a black hole, and your body gets ripped apart as you float into the air.

If you survive, You end up in a Strange Place

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead

Originally posted by: pinion9

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: pinion9

Originally posted by: sinucus
And who buys land where massive earthquakes can destroy your home?
Los Angeles: Population, 2005 estimate 9,935,475!

<---- Lives in interior Alaska. Very low risk of natural disasters. We do have a LOT of earthquakes, but they are generally very small (imperceivable to humans) OR they are located in an unpopulated area.

Except for the occasional 7.9 eh?

Lack of populated areas FTW. I think with the last real big one, 1 person broke their arm. I didn't even feel it

I felt it here in Anchorage. It was weird. It was a very pronounced undulating motion, but super super smooth, like lying on a waterbed. The fact that it lasted six minutes was odd. After two or three minutes, I was like "Hmm... this isn't gonna stop... oh well" and went back to playing my video game. It was like playing while drunk, while not drunk.

Hehe... just noticed we have three Alaskans in this thread!

I was in Anchorage when that happened too. (Fairbanks now) When things started "rolling" I remembered how my dad described how the Good Friday quake felt in Fairbanks. Gentle rolling, slow up and down... So while it was happening all I could think of was "Someone is getting really pounded right now."

Alaska FTW!!!

 

[KDOG]

I watched that. The whole thing was just a work up till the ol' liberal enviro-nut standby of global warming. I mean c'mon global warming is worse than the gamma ray burst or large asteroid impact they showed. Gimme a break. Just more of the left cramming their stup enviro-ideology down everyones' throat. It was pathetic.

 

[Raiden256]

Originally posted by: hans030390
I think this global warming thing is crap. Our Earth changes naturally. At one point the Sahara desert (I believe it's that one) was not a desert, but full of life. Earth changed. We've had periods on earth where it's very hot (dinosaurs maybe?), and very cold (ice age).

Also, people are worried that cars will do this to us because what they put out destroys the ozone layer. First off, Volcanoes put out more stuff (has something to do with carbon, forget the exact term though) than we do...a lot more. I believe one volcano eruption is equal to about one year of what we put out...correct me if I'm wrong, but it's something like that. Considering volcanoes still exist, and the Earth is still doing quite well, I don't think it's going anywhere.

Not to mention, the ozone layer is known to have patterns...sometimes it's not as strong as other times.

So for global warming killing us...Hmm, no. Even if it was true and happened, we'd know far ahead of time and adapt.

As far as things like nuclear wars...well, that could happen.

I think it's silly to worry about this stuff. Just live for now, and face stuff when it comes.

You sir, are an idiot.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. This is very likely just about all you remember from that Rush Limbaugh book collecting dust on your shelf.

You obviously don't understand that chlorine from SOLUBLE HCl in the troposphere or injected directly into the stratosphere from from volcanoes, etc just RAINS BACK TO DOWN TO EARTH, while man-made INSOLUBLE chloroflurocarbons persist in the higher stratosphere and break down O3 (ozone) to O2 (oxygen) quite efficiently.

You obviously don't understand that a climactic change as dramatic and fast as we've observed in our recent history is basically unprecendented in what we know about Earth's climate. It's as if one day, in the middle of winter, we suddently had a 90-degree day. If the next day we had a 91-degree day, then the next day we had a 92-degree day, would you go around on December 28th saying "It's no big deal, seasons change... sometimes it's hot and sometimes it's cold"? Try to understand the meaning of geologic time just a little.

I cannot abide people who just spew what they have heard on talk radio and don't even attempt to understand the science of what they're talking about.

 

[RU482]

Time to buy lots and lots of "realativly" cheap land in Iowa and also buy lots and lots of ammo.

That and a crate of Alpo