2-weeks notice question

Feldenak

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Ok, it turns out that I'll be starting a new job on July 9 in another state. I've had the week of July 2-6 as a scheduled vacation for some time now (before this new opportunity presented itself). When I turn in my notice tomorrow, do I make it for 2 weeks (making my last effective day June 29) or do I make it 3 weeks (ending after my vacation)? I've accrued enough vacation to handle that week so I'm getting paid for that week regardless...just wondering on the wording.
 

orakle

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The idea of the 2 weeks notice is it's a goodwill gesture that allows them two weeks to find a replacement. Therefore, I think you should make your last day the last day of your planned vacation.
 

esun

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Can't you ask your boss? Doesn't seem like it'd be important, either way, as long as the understanding exists that you deserve your PTO money.
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: esun
Can't you ask your boss? Doesn't seem like it'd be important, either way, as long as the understanding exists that you deserve your PTO money.

Considering the nature of my position and the information I have access to, I'm half expecting to be told to go home when I give my notice...which may suck hardcore because I need that income.
 

Sukhoi

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: esun
Can't you ask your boss? Doesn't seem like it'd be important, either way, as long as the understanding exists that you deserve your PTO money.

Considering the nature of my position and the information I have access to, I'm half expecting to be told to go home when I give my notice...which may suck hardcore because I need that income.

Don't they have to pay you if they make you go home?
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: Sukhoi
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: esun
Can't you ask your boss? Doesn't seem like it'd be important, either way, as long as the understanding exists that you deserve your PTO money.

Considering the nature of my position and the information I have access to, I'm half expecting to be told to go home when I give my notice...which may suck hardcore because I need that income.

Don't they have to pay you if they make you go home?

I can't find anything about that on our state's DoL website. Alabama's an at-will state.
 

Reel

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: Sukhoi
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: esun
Can't you ask your boss? Doesn't seem like it'd be important, either way, as long as the understanding exists that you deserve your PTO money.

Considering the nature of my position and the information I have access to, I'm half expecting to be told to go home when I give my notice...which may suck hardcore because I need that income.

Don't they have to pay you if they make you go home?

I can't find anything about that on our state's DoL website. Alabama's an at-will state.

When I recently gave notice (in Georgia), that day was made my last day. I was informed I would be paid out my two weeks notice even though I was not working it due to some state law. They also made the decision to pay me my 2 weeks accrued vacation on top of that.

I had some circumstances that required me to speak with my HR representative about it before I actually gave notice. As long as you are certain you are leaving, I'd discuss it with the HR representative to find out what the precedent and policies are for this situation.
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: Reel
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: Sukhoi
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: esun
Can't you ask your boss? Doesn't seem like it'd be important, either way, as long as the understanding exists that you deserve your PTO money.

Considering the nature of my position and the information I have access to, I'm half expecting to be told to go home when I give my notice...which may suck hardcore because I need that income.

Don't they have to pay you if they make you go home?

I can't find anything about that on our state's DoL website. Alabama's an at-will state.

When I recently gave notice (in Georgia), that day was made my last day. I was informed I would be paid out my two weeks notice even though I was not working it due to some state law. They also made the decision to pay me my 2 weeks accrued vacation on top of that.

I had some circumstances that required me to speak with my HR representative about it before I actually gave notice. As long as you are certain you are leaving, I'd discuss it with the HR representative to find out what the precedent and policies are for this situation.

Yeah, I guess I can talk to HR while my boss is in the dept. head meeting tomorrow morning.
 

Feldenak

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Well, I turned in my notice and so far it's been relatively painless. I'm actually kind of surprised I'm still at work considering I'm an out-going employee with unfettered access to any & all company systems.
 

slsmnaz

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Congrats on the job (and for getting out of Alabama ;))!

At my company it always depended on where you were going. Some people were leaving for our competition and thought they would still be allowed access for their last 2 weeks. If you just have another opportunity then I see no reason they shouldn't use you until you're gone.
 

torpid

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Since you are quitting and aren't fired, they probably aren't as worried about it. If you were fired, they would probably boot you immediately so you don't enact revenge of any sort.
 

CPA

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I'm not sure it really mattered. I assume you would have been paid for any unused vacation time.
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: CPA
I'm not sure it really mattered. I assume you would have been paid for any unused vacation time.

The vacation time I've acrued isn't what I was worried about. I was concerned with getting the boot when I turned my notice in and not getting paid having any income besides the vacation time I've earned.
 

Vette73

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If they tell you to leave when you put in notice they will usually pay for those 2 weeks. if not file for unemployment. You will get your pay and their insurance rates will go up. Hence the reason they pay the 2 weeks as it is cheaper.

Someone at my last place put in a 3 month notice. yes that is MONTH. Needless to say they told her to hit the road and they did not pay her anything. Unemployment is less then what 3 months of pay is to them.
 

Nutdotnet

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
If they tell you to leave when you put in notice they will usually pay for those 2 weeks. if not file for unemployment. You will get your pay and their insurance rates will go up. Hence the reason they pay the 2 weeks as it is cheaper.

Someone at my last place put in a 3 month notice. yes that is MONTH. Needless to say they told her to hit the road and they did not pay her anything. Unemployment is less then what 3 months of pay is to them.

Actually...in most at-will state's, if the employee gives notice there is nothing keeping the employer from keeping him/her on board. If they tell you to leave at the time of notice then they tell you to leave, pay you your last paycheck and any other benefits you may have, and be done with it.
 

LS20

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
If they tell you to leave when you put in notice they will usually pay for those 2 weeks. if not file for unemployment. You will get your pay and their insurance rates will go up. Hence the reason they pay the 2 weeks as it is cheaper.

Someone at my last place put in a 3 month notice. yes that is MONTH. Needless to say they told her to hit the road and they did not pay her anything. Unemployment is less then what 3 months of pay is to them.

word. my friend was a well respected and a highly valuable asset to his large company. he explored other career options and gave them a 1+ month notice.

they turned around and terminated his position early. that means thousands in pay, missing out on stock purchase plan period, etc etc etc. lots of money involved.
 

TruePaige

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That's really cold stuff on some of these posts.

My personal experience is if you had a vacation already scheduled they already have someone to cover for ya.
 

Kyteland

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Originally posted by: Reel
When I recently gave notice (in Georgia), that day was made my last day. I was informed I would be paid out my two weeks notice even though I was not working it due to some state law. They also made the decision to pay me my 2 weeks accrued vacation on top of that.

I had some circumstances that required me to speak with my HR representative about it before I actually gave notice. As long as you are certain you are leaving, I'd discuss it with the HR representative to find out what the precedent and policies are for this situation.
They didn't decide anything. The company has to pay out all earned vacation. It's legally the same as salary. Similarly if you've taken more vacation than you've earned at the point that you leave you have to pay the difference back.
 

Nutdotnet

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Originally posted by: Kyteland
Originally posted by: Reel
When I recently gave notice (in Georgia), that day was made my last day. I was informed I would be paid out my two weeks notice even though I was not working it due to some state law. They also made the decision to pay me my 2 weeks accrued vacation on top of that.

I had some circumstances that required me to speak with my HR representative about it before I actually gave notice. As long as you are certain you are leaving, I'd discuss it with the HR representative to find out what the precedent and policies are for this situation.
They didn't decide anything. The company has to pay out all earned vacation. It's legally the same as salary. Similarly if you've taken more vacation than you've earned at the point that you leave you have to pay the difference back.

When would the latter ever happen? Think about it. If you exhaust your vacation hours then you simply are on leave without pay...that'd be a pretty major gaffe if payroll continued paying out vacation to someone who didn't have the hours.
 

Reel

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Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: Kyteland
Originally posted by: Reel
When I recently gave notice (in Georgia), that day was made my last day. I was informed I would be paid out my two weeks notice even though I was not working it due to some state law. They also made the decision to pay me my 2 weeks accrued vacation on top of that.

I had some circumstances that required me to speak with my HR representative about it before I actually gave notice. As long as you are certain you are leaving, I'd discuss it with the HR representative to find out what the precedent and policies are for this situation.
They didn't decide anything. The company has to pay out all earned vacation. It's legally the same as salary. Similarly if you've taken more vacation than you've earned at the point that you leave you have to pay the difference back.

When would the latter ever happen? Think about it. If you exhaust your vacation hours then you simply are on leave without pay...that'd be a pretty major gaffe if payroll continued paying out vacation to someone who didn't have the hours.

I took more holiday time than was appropriate for that time in the year. They took about 6 hours of time back. It would have all worked out had I stayed until the end of the fiscal year. I thought vacation pay was an optional thing. I didn't realize they were obligated to pay it out.
 

Kyteland

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Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
When would the latter ever happen? Think about it. If you exhaust your vacation hours then you simply are on leave without pay...that'd be a pretty major gaffe if payroll continued paying out vacation to someone who didn't have the hours.
I have 160 PTO hours every year. I can use them at any time during the year, but I only accrue them at a rate of 6.14 hours per pay period. I can take a 3 week vacation in June (thus getting a negative PTO balance) because the company has a reasonable expectation that I will work for the rest of the year to cover my balance.

In addition to that I have a legal responsibility to cover the negative balance if I quit, just as the company has a legal responsibility to cover any positive balance.
 

jiggahertz

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Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: Kyteland
Originally posted by: Reel
When I recently gave notice (in Georgia), that day was made my last day. I was informed I would be paid out my two weeks notice even though I was not working it due to some state law. They also made the decision to pay me my 2 weeks accrued vacation on top of that.

I had some circumstances that required me to speak with my HR representative about it before I actually gave notice. As long as you are certain you are leaving, I'd discuss it with the HR representative to find out what the precedent and policies are for this situation.
They didn't decide anything. The company has to pay out all earned vacation. It's legally the same as salary. Similarly if you've taken more vacation than you've earned at the point that you leave you have to pay the difference back.

When would the latter ever happen? Think about it. If you exhaust your vacation hours then you simply are on leave without pay...that'd be a pretty major gaffe if payroll continued paying out vacation to someone who didn't have the hours.

Most places allow you to borrow vacation.
 

jhayx7

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Lets see... Write a batch file to delete a good bit of information from a server. Schedule that batch file to execute around 11pm tomorrow night. If you do not get sent home tomorrow, then cancel the scheduled job, if not... let it run...it won't be your problem anymore :)
 

Nutdotnet

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Originally posted by: jiggahertz
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: Kyteland
Originally posted by: Reel
When I recently gave notice (in Georgia), that day was made my last day. I was informed I would be paid out my two weeks notice even though I was not working it due to some state law. They also made the decision to pay me my 2 weeks accrued vacation on top of that.

I had some circumstances that required me to speak with my HR representative about it before I actually gave notice. As long as you are certain you are leaving, I'd discuss it with the HR representative to find out what the precedent and policies are for this situation.
They didn't decide anything. The company has to pay out all earned vacation. It's legally the same as salary. Similarly if you've taken more vacation than you've earned at the point that you leave you have to pay the difference back.

When would the latter ever happen? Think about it. If you exhaust your vacation hours then you simply are on leave without pay...that'd be a pretty major gaffe if payroll continued paying out vacation to someone who didn't have the hours.

Most places allow you to borrow vacation.

Hmm...INTERESTING...that's not how it works @ my work...nor is that how it works at any of the places that I've worked at...that's pretty darn cool though!