2 Unrepentant About Selling Katrina Gift

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2 Unrepentant About Selling Katrina Gift
By WOODY BAIRD, Associated Press Writer
2 hours ago

MEMPHIS, Tenn. - A church that wanted to do something special for Hurricane Katrina victims gave a $75,000 house, free and clear, to a couple who said they were left homeless by the storm. But the couple turned around and sold the place without ever moving in, and went back to New Orleans.

"Take it up with God," an unrepentant Joshua Thompson told a TV reporter after it was learned that he and the woman he identified as his wife had flipped the home for $88,000.

Church members said they feel their generosity was abused by scam artists. They are no longer even sure that the couple were left homeless by Katrina or that they were a couple at all.

"They came in humble like they really needed a new start, and our hearts went out to them," said Jean Phillips, a real estate agent and member of the Temple of Deliverance Church of God in Christ. "They actually begged for the home."

The church was also shocked by an ungrateful interview the couple gave with WHBQ-TV in Memphis.

"I really don't like this area," said Delores Thompson. "I really didn't, and I didn't know anybody, so that's why I didn't move in and I sold it."

Thompson, reached at a New Orleans phone number by The Associated Press on Tuesday, thanked the church for its generosity but said she saw nothing wrong in selling the three-bedroom, two-bath house.

"Do I have any legal problems? What do you mean? The house was given to me," she said. "I have the paperwork and everything."

She refused further comment and hung up.

The church had decided that it would do something special for one Katrina-displaced family, in addition to its other efforts to help evacuees. The church set up a committee to find the right family and conducted several dozen interviews.

Delores Thompson, who did most of the talking for her family, told the committee that she had lost her job as a nurse and that her husband had lost an import-export business in New Orleans, committee member Joy Covington said.

The committee also heard how the family had lost its home and most of its possessions and how the children, a 14-year-old girl and 16-year-old boy, were eager to get back in school. The family said it wanted to resettle in Memphis.

After the church settled on Thompson, real estate agent Phillips helped her pick out the house she wanted, and it was bought in Thompson's name. She took possession in February and sold it in September. Property transfer records for the resale list her as unmarried; the papers from the original sale list her as married.

"I feel like it was a sham or a ripoff," Covington said.

The church hasn't discussed legal action, but the members are upset because the house could have gone to a more needy family, Covington said.

Thompson claimed she and her family were living in an apartment supplied by the Federal Emergency Management Agency, but did not invite Phillips over during the house search.

"She didn't want me coming over there," Phillips said. "She'd say, `I'll meet you.'"

Covington's husband, Edward, said the family had been listed by FEMA as displaced. But he said the church took Thompson's word for it that their house was destroyed.

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episodic

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Hmm - if someone gave me a house that I could instantly make over 10,000 dollars on. . . .

choices. . .

Although, I'd be deeply appreciative and would grant interviews and explain I bought a house elsewhere. . . thank the church, etc. O yea, I would not have lied or anything either.
 

akshatp

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Originally posted by: episodic
Hmm - if someone gave me a house that I could instantly make over 10,000 dollars on. . . .

choices. . .

Although, I'd be deeply appreciative and would grant interviews and explain I bought a house elsewhere. . . thank the church, etc. O yea, I would not have lied or anything either.

They didnt "MAKE" 10,000 on it. They made the whole $88,000 as the church paid for the house. It wasnt like the church found them a home at a good price and made them pay for it, they GAVE them the house. And thats how they showed their thanks.

I'm sure God will repay them..
 

episodic

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Kind of a strange situaton. Question - ok lets say they were legit. They get the house - live there a little while - realize they can make a mint by 'flipping' it. If they were legitly impacted, would people still be mad for them profiting? Or is it when something like this happens you are obligated to stay there forever or something? This is why I don't like gifts. . . too complicated.
 

Vette73

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Seems the church did not do their homework. BUT it looks liek they have a good case of fraud against the couple. At least i think the church could get a lawyer to do it for free to sue the "couple" since any money returned would hopefully go to a really needy family.
 

episodic

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Originally posted by: akshatp
Originally posted by: episodic
Hmm - if someone gave me a house that I could instantly make over 10,000 dollars on. . . .

choices. . .

Although, I'd be deeply appreciative and would grant interviews and explain I bought a house elsewhere. . . thank the church, etc. O yea, I would not have lied or anything either.

They didnt "MAKE" 10,000 on it. They made the whole $88,000 as the church paid for the house. It wasnt like the church found them a home at a good price and made them pay for it, they GAVE them the house. And thats how they showed their thanks.

I'm sure God will repay them..

Yea my thoughts were coming from a couple that honestly told the truth - and the church did this for them, and they then just decided to get a home where they came from. If they were not really married - yea, I agree bad stuff.
 

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Well despite being scumbags, what they did isn't against the law. They were given a free house by the church and if they decided to sell it, the church can't really do anything about it. When something is gifted over to another person, they can do what they want with it even if it wasn't for the reason intended. There were some 9/11 families that took donations and ended up going on shopping sprees.
 
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SlitheryDee

Sounds like a straight up con job to me. Why in the hell did they buy them a $75,000 house? If they were truly displaced then a free doublewide would have totally improved their position.

 

sygyzy

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Originally posted by: episodic
Hmm - if someone gave me a house that I could instantly make over 10,000 dollars on. . . .

choices. . .

Although, I'd be deeply appreciative and would grant interviews and explain I bought a house elsewhere. . . thank the church, etc. O yea, I would not have lied or anything either.

In other words, you are trashy like them?
 

episodic

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Originally posted by: sygyzy
Originally posted by: episodic
Hmm - if someone gave me a house that I could instantly make over 10,000 dollars on. . . .

choices. . .

Although, I'd be deeply appreciative and would grant interviews and explain I bought a house elsewhere. . . thank the church, etc. O yea, I would not have lied or anything either.

In other words, you are trashy like them?

Well, if I were honest, and did not lie - and they still gave it to me - then this would be a whole other thing. I would tell them if I thought I might not stay in the area. I would tell them if I felt like I would move back possibly. I would tell them all of that. I also would tell them if I were married or not. . .sheesh.

 

AgentUnknown

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Didn't the church put restrictions on this so in any event, they would not be able to sell so soon? Sounds too much like those ppl waiting in line for a Ps3 to get double their money back on a smaller scale.
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
lol wow, they just made $88k :shocked:

Of course I wonder if they reported the gift on their taxs? If not then I can see some easy revenge against them. :)
 

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I bet you they dont file and pay the "gift Tax". I bet they also dont pay the capital gains tax on it. They are going to get screwed by the IRS. After all the taxes they probably would end up with half that amount if they actually paid the taxes. Then after the IRS catches up with them they are going to have barely anything. I hope they spend all that money then the IRS comes knocking. Good luck trying to pay that off.

This whole thing is a shame for the givers. I think the church could have made better use of the money to though instead of giving the value in one chunch to one person.
 

d2arcturus

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Good move on the couple's part pocketing $88k, too bad it was from a church though.

Would rather seen them pawn a corporate handout. Oh well, it's just money.
 

chambersc

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Great job by those people for flipping it for $88k. Capitalism at work...buy low (free) sell high (88k).
 

AnonymouseUser

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Originally posted by: Lithium381
straight BS, should have rented at LWO LOW LOW cost to them.....this is unbeleivable

That plan backfired on another church in a bad way.

Haha.