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BoomerD

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Feb 26, 2006
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Well, I agree they went way overboard, but it does sound like they stoipped a child molester...any 16 yr old going after a 12 yr old NEEDS to be beaten into unconciousness...for some reason, you see a LOT of older hispanic males with VERY young girls around here...some cultural thing I guess, because it usually has the parents consent.

Are you out of your fvcking mind? OMG a 16 year old boy tried to kiss a 12 year old girl...these are two children we're talking about here. Yeah, that's childmolestation...:roll:

You don't beat children into unconciousness for any reason...ever.

First of all, apparently your sarcasm meter must be broken...IF there was anything improper happening, the authorities should have been called, and the individual held until they arrived.
Given the current racial tension in this country, in part over the illegal immigration issues that have been forced into the forefront, this doesn't surprise me at all. People are raging against people of hispanic decent, even the ones who are here legally and are citizens. Kind of like the attacks on muslims and Sikhs after 9-11. While on the surface, the reasoning is different, underneath it all, it's just racism...

Next, a 16 yr old is hardly a child. Consider the crap that teens in that age group do...robbery, rape, murder, etc...they are young adults by that age, NOT children...Act like an adult, get treated like one. Hell, I enlisted in the Marine Corps at 16 and went to Vietnam. If the story is accurate, this individual had NO business trying to kiss a 12 yr old...The story does not tell how well the families knew each other, (maybe the victim's family was close with the girl's family) as an explanation why he would attempt to kiss her, but if it was anything more than a friendly "peck", then it may indeed have been the start of an attempted child molestation...YES, the differeence in age, and the fact that she was only 12, would make it molestation...
 

BoomerD

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Ah, we don't like their appearance...they MUST be white trash...git a rope...

Sorry, just because they "look a certain way" doesn't make them white trash. Perhaps poor and uneducated, or even slow, but where does it say they live in a trailer? ;)
 

NaOH

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: AMDUALY
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Nik
:roll: Why the hell does the news media NEED to report their race? I don't understand seeing "white male" and "black male" and "hispanic this and that" in the news. I don't care about their race and neither does anyone else. It's like the news media likes to push their own agenda, making way too many things out to be racial when they're not or something.
I'd be willing to bet money I don't have that this attack was racially motivated.
Quit being all butt hurt about it (no pun intended). The news media is meant to report the NEWS. It was an alleged hate crime so they are giving us a detailed report. Quit trolling and grow up...

WTF are you talking about? Who is trolling?

not you the Nik
 

NaOH

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Originally posted by: AMDUALY
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: AMDUALY
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Nik
:roll: Why the hell does the news media NEED to report their race? I don't understand seeing "white male" and "black male" and "hispanic this and that" in the news. I don't care about their race and neither does anyone else. It's like the news media likes to push their own agenda, making way too many things out to be racial when they're not or something.
I'd be willing to bet money I don't have that this attack was racially motivated.
Quit being all butt hurt about it (no pun intended). The news media is meant to report the NEWS. It was an alleged hate crime so they are giving us a detailed report. Quit trolling and grow up...

WTF are you talking about? Who is trolling?

not you, Nik

 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Well, I agree they went way overboard, but it does sound like they stoipped a child molester...any 16 yr old going after a 12 yr old NEEDS to be beaten into unconciousness...for some reason, you see a LOT of older hispanic males with VERY young girls around here...some cultural thing I guess, because it usually has the parents consent.

Are you out of your fvcking mind? OMG a 16 year old boy tried to kiss a 12 year old girl...these are two children we're talking about here. Yeah, that's childmolestation...:roll:

You don't beat children into unconciousness for any reason...ever.

First of all, apparently your sarcasm meter must be broken...IF there was anything improper happening, the authorities should have been called, and the individual held until they arrived.
Given the current racial tension in this country, in part over the illegal immigration issues that have been forced into the forefront, this doesn't surprise me at all. People are raging against people of hispanic decent, even the ones who are here legally and are citizens. Kind of like the attacks on muslims and Sikhs after 9-11. While on the surface, the reasoning is different, underneath it all, it's just racism...

Next, a 16 yr old is hardly a child. Consider the crap that teens in that age group do...robbery, rape, murder, etc...they are young adults by that age, NOT children...Act like an adult, get treated like one. Hell, I enlisted in the Marine Corps at 16 and went to Vietnam. If the story is accurate, this individual had NO business trying to kiss a 12 yr old...The story does not tell how well the families knew each other, (maybe the victim's family was close with the girl's family) as an explanation why he would attempt to kiss her, but if it was anything more than a friendly "peck", then it may indeed have been the start of an attempted child molestation...YES, the differeence in age, and the fact that she was only 12, would make it molestation...

:roll:

yea it so sounds like he was trying to rape and molest a 12 year old from their description that he wanted to kiss a girl. i know damn well when I was 16 there were some hot 12/13 year olds, and now a days these girls are growing up even faster. i don' see anything wrong w/a 16 year old hooking up with a 12 year old. and i'm not even talking about sex at this point, i'm talking about kissing, as stated in this article.
 

gigapet

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Ah, we don't like their appearance...they MUST be white trash...git a rope...

Sorry, just because they "look a certain way" doesn't make them white trash. Perhaps poor and uneducated, or even slow, but where does it say they live in a trailer? ;)

whit etrash dont have to live in trailers look at anna nicole smith and britney spears.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: AMDUALY
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: AMDUALY
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Nik
:roll: Why the hell does the news media NEED to report their race? I don't understand seeing "white male" and "black male" and "hispanic this and that" in the news. I don't care about their race and neither does anyone else. It's like the news media likes to push their own agenda, making way too many things out to be racial when they're not or something.
I'd be willing to bet money I don't have that this attack was racially motivated.
Quit being all butt hurt about it (no pun intended). The news media is meant to report the NEWS. It was an alleged hate crime so they are giving us a detailed report. Quit trolling and grow up...

WTF are you talking about? Who is trolling?

not you the Nik

So you trust everything you hear on the news as unbias, non-agenda-based gospel, eh?
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: txrandom
Spring is like 20 minutes away from where I live. I'm hoping for the death penalty; we have too much white trash in Houston.

See? How do you know they're white trash? You're assuming, based on what the news media reported. The media just fuels the fire of ignorance.

It's pretty easy to assume they are white trash actually.

A) They are white, therefore the first part of the equation is true.
B) They beat a boy almost to death, therefore they are trash.

Hence, they are white trash.
 

gigapet

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: AMDUALY
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: AMDUALY
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Nik
:roll: Why the hell does the news media NEED to report their race? I don't understand seeing "white male" and "black male" and "hispanic this and that" in the news. I don't care about their race and neither does anyone else. It's like the news media likes to push their own agenda, making way too many things out to be racial when they're not or something.
I'd be willing to bet money I don't have that this attack was racially motivated.
Quit being all butt hurt about it (no pun intended). The news media is meant to report the NEWS. It was an alleged hate crime so they are giving us a detailed report. Quit trolling and grow up...

WTF are you talking about? Who is trolling?

not you the Nik

So you trust everything you hear on the news as unbias, non-agenda-based gospel, eh?

no it is biased its just never or rarely biased against WHITE PEOPLE.
 

Turkish

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Well, I agree they went way overboard, but it does sound like they stoipped a child molester...any 16 yr old going after a 12 yr old NEEDS to be beaten into unconciousness...for some reason, you see a LOT of older hispanic males with VERY young girls around here...some cultural thing I guess, because it usually has the parents consent.

Are you out of your fvcking mind? OMG a 16 year old boy tried to kiss a 12 year old girl...these are two children we're talking about here. Yeah, that's childmolestation...:roll:

You don't beat children into unconciousness for any reason...ever.

First of all, apparently your sarcasm meter must be broken...IF there was anything improper happening, the authorities should have been called, and the individual held until they arrived.
Given the current racial tension in this country, in part over the illegal immigration issues that have been forced into the forefront, this doesn't surprise me at all. People are raging against people of hispanic decent, even the ones who are here legally and are citizens. Kind of like the attacks on muslims and Sikhs after 9-11. While on the surface, the reasoning is different, underneath it all, it's just racism...

Next, a 16 yr old is hardly a child. Consider the crap that teens in that age group do...robbery, rape, murder, etc...they are young adults by that age, NOT children...Act like an adult, get treated like one. Hell, I enlisted in the Marine Corps at 16 and went to Vietnam. If the story is accurate, this individual had NO business trying to kiss a 12 yr old...The story does not tell how well the families knew each other, (maybe the victim's family was close with the girl's family) as an explanation why he would attempt to kiss her, but if it was anything more than a friendly "peck", then it may indeed have been the start of an attempted child molestation...YES, the differeence in age, and the fact that she was only 12, would make it molestation...

If you look at it from your own perspective, sure, everyone will have some sort of adult experience at a certain age, but there isn't much difference between the intellectual capabilities of a boy at 16 and a girl at 12, especially given that girls mature faster than boys. Molestation is unwanted or improper sexual activity and since we don't know anything about what happened, this is hardly molestation.

 

Anghang

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Originally posted by: Beige
Originally posted by: gigapet
sad thing is this wont even make headlines after today because the victim is only a "teenager of color"

replace hispanic victime with white girl/boy and you have 6 months of national news coverage

QFT

 

NaOH

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: AMDUALY
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: AMDUALY
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Nik
:roll: Why the hell does the news media NEED to report their race? I don't understand seeing "white male" and "black male" and "hispanic this and that" in the news. I don't care about their race and neither does anyone else. It's like the news media likes to push their own agenda, making way too many things out to be racial when they're not or something.
I'd be willing to bet money I don't have that this attack was racially motivated.
Quit being all butt hurt about it (no pun intended). The news media is meant to report the NEWS. It was an alleged hate crime so they are giving us a detailed report. Quit trolling and grow up...

WTF are you talking about? Who is trolling?

not you the Nik

So you trust everything you hear on the news as unbias, non-agenda-based gospel, eh?


So, they told me 2 white boys beat up a hispanic boy to death. Am i supposed to refute whether they are actually white and hispanic? :confused:

What is there not to believe besides the "kissing" and that it might be a hate crime. The news stating the races of the boys in question are appopriate because it SEEMS like a hate crime.

No I don't take everything on the news as unbias etc. But for this story it seems appropriate.
 

EatSpam

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Originally posted by: Nik
:roll: Why the hell does the news media NEED to report their race? I don't understand seeing "white male" and "black male" and "hispanic this and that" in the news. I don't care about their race and neither does anyone else. It's like the news media likes to push their own agenda, making way too many things out to be racial when they're not or something.

Keep in mind that if the races were reversed, or if it was a black perp, there'd probably be no mention of the race. They seem to push the idea is that only Whitey can commit hate crimes.
 

Baked

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Well, I agree they went way overboard, but it does sound like they stoipped a child molester...any 16 yr old going after a 12 yr old NEEDS to be beaten into unconciousness...for some reason, you see a LOT of older hispanic males with VERY young girls around here...some cultural thing I guess, because it usually has the parents consent.

You are reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetarded.
 

Darthvoy

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This reminds me of the time when African-Americans were hanged by racist white men simply because they looked at a white girl a certain way. I am sure if the person who "allegedly" tried to kiss the white girl was also white, those attackers wouldn't have done anything.
 

astrosfan90

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Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: Nik
:roll: Why the hell does the news media NEED to report their race? I don't understand seeing "white male" and "black male" and "hispanic this and that" in the news. I don't care about their race and neither does anyone else. It's like the news media likes to push their own agenda, making way too many things out to be racial when they're not or something.

Keep in mind that if the races were reversed, or if it was a black perp, there'd probably be no mention of the race. They seem to push the idea is that only Whitey can commit hate crimes.


You really think if two black teens did the same thing to a white teen who had tried to kiss a black girl while calling him racial slurs, it wouldn't be notable?
 

EatSpam

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Originally posted by: astrosfan90
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: Nik
:roll: Why the hell does the news media NEED to report their race? I don't understand seeing "white male" and "black male" and "hispanic this and that" in the news. I don't care about their race and neither does anyone else. It's like the news media likes to push their own agenda, making way too many things out to be racial when they're not or something.

Keep in mind that if the races were reversed, or if it was a black perp, there'd probably be no mention of the race. They seem to push the idea is that only Whitey can commit hate crimes.

You really think if two black teens did the same thing to a white teen who had tried to kiss a black girl while calling him racial slurs, it wouldn't be notable?

It would be notable, but would the media mention it? I doubt it.
 

ValkyrieofHouston

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Originally posted by: gigapet
Two white teenagers severely beat and sodomized a 16-year-old Hispanic boy who they believed had tried to kiss a 12-year-old white girl at a party, authorities said.

The attackers forced the boy out of the Saturday night house party, beat him and sodomized him with a metal pipe, shouting epithets "associated with being Hispanic," said Lt. John Martin with the Harris County Sheriff's Department.

They then poured bleach over the boy, apparently to destroy DNA evidence and left him for dead, authorities said. He wasn't discovered until Sunday, 12 hours after the attack.

The victim, who was not identified, suffered severe internal injuries and remained in critical condition Thursday.

"It's more than likely the boy won't live," Harris County prosecutor Mike Trent said.

Keith Robert Turner, 17, and David Henry Tuck, 18, are charged with aggravated sexual assault, investigators said. Prosecutors are considering whether to attach hate-crime charges, but unless the victim dies, the possible penalty would be the same. If the boy dies and it is ruled a hate crime, Tuck could face the death penalty, authorities said. Turner would be too young to face execution.

The case has been turned over to the homicide division, Martin said, normal procedure in severe assault cases.

Authorities set bond at $100,000 for Turner. Tuck's bond was initially set at $20,000, but it was revoked Thursday. He was being held in the Harris County Jail.

Spring is a middle-class, largely white suburb of 36,000 residents, located about 10 miles north of the Houston city line.

pics of culprits

http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com...380&y=273&sig=FT7Xs2M.1ITdzw.Euk6y.A--


What kinda sickos!?

Christ that poor Kid lay there for 12 hours! I hope he makes it..



 

Sphexi

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When they get to jail, the other inmates should be given metal pipes of their own. Some good ol' metal-pipe-jail-sodomy.
 

txrandom

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: txrandom
Spring is like 20 minutes away from where I live. I'm hoping for the death penalty; we have too much white trash in Houston.

See? How do you know they're white trash? You're assuming, based on what the news media reported. The media just fuels the fire of ignorance.

I see you don't live anywhere near Spring.
 

NaOH

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Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: astrosfan90
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: Nik
:roll: Why the hell does the news media NEED to report their race? I don't understand seeing "white male" and "black male" and "hispanic this and that" in the news. I don't care about their race and neither does anyone else. It's like the news media likes to push their own agenda, making way too many things out to be racial when they're not or something.

Keep in mind that if the races were reversed, or if it was a black perp, there'd probably be no mention of the race. They seem to push the idea is that only Whitey can commit hate crimes.

You really think if two black teens did the same thing to a white teen who had tried to kiss a black girl while calling him racial slurs, it wouldn't be notable?

It would be notable, but would the media mention it? I doubt it.

:roll: whatever you say...