2 teachers union lobbyists teach for a day to qualify for hefty pensions

[xBiffx]

hmm you must not be aware of the Moran connotation :awe: Oh well 😉

Aware of it just fine..lived in St. Louis too. Too bad you got caught.

 

[Ausm]

Aware of it just fine..lived in St. Louis too. Too bad you got caught.

That's a different connotation but hey let's go with that one because it is nicer then the one I was referring to 😉

 

[Craig234]

Crass corruption.

Two people are getting away with a scam, in a system that protects millions' wages.

It's also a one-time situation in this case that's closed.

"...union President Dan Montgomery said the deal Preckwinkle and Piccioli landed "should never be allowed again.""

Find a fix to prevent this? Great. Use this to trash unions? Wrong.

 

[Genx87]

Crass corruption.

Two people are getting away with a scam, in a system that protects millions' wages.

It's also a one-time situation in this case that's closed.

"...union President Dan Montgomery said the deal Preckwinkle and Piccioli landed "should never be allowed again.""

Find a fix to prevent this? Great. Use this to trash unions? Wrong.

This is the second story about union lobbyists getting special deals with the pension systems in Illinois. We had a story about a month ago about a union boss who worked for a couple days and was allowed to get on the city of chicago's pension plan that would pay him six figures.

 

[rudder]

Crass corruption.

Two people are getting away with a scam, in a system that protects millions' wages.

It's also a one-time situation in this case that's closed.

"...union President Dan Montgomery said the deal Preckwinkle and Piccioli landed "should never be allowed again.""

Find a fix to prevent this? Great. Use this to trash unions? Wrong.

crass corruption... two people... one time situation..wah? The Illinois state legislator allows this and it has been going on for some time. Democrat cronyism and union support likely fgot this pushed through the legislature.

Of course it is legal.... but I am sure the union leaders taking advantage of this money far outnumber the ones who turned it down.

 

[Lithium381]

Crass corruption.

Two people are getting away with a scam, in a system that protects millions' wages.

It's also a one-time situation in this case that's closed.

"...union President Dan Montgomery said the deal Preckwinkle and Piccioli landed "should never be allowed again.""

Find a fix to prevent this? Great. Use this to trash unions? Wrong.

one time situation? for this particular loophole / law . . . .. we hear about stuff like this all the time from (public) unions all around the country, though a majority in IL.... and remember, nobody is trashing unions, only PUBLIC unions.... because that's on the taxpayer dime. you'd think IL would have some decent lawyers to look over this stuff..... it just feels like that state is always bending over and grabbing its ankles...... well passing it to joe taxpayer

 

[Craig234]

and remember, nobody is trashing unions, only PUBLIC unions.... because that's on the taxpayer dime.

Wow, that's some serious ignorance.

you'd think IL would have some decent lawyers to look over this stuff..... it just feels like that state is always bending over and grabbing its ankles...... well passing it to joe taxpayer

Yes, it does, and corruption typically isn't about 'a lawyer not looking it over'.

You know, Fry's Electronics had a Vice President who did a scam for hundreds of millions of dollars. That just proves that the private retail industry should be destroyed.

 

[Lithium381]

Wow, that's some serious ignorance.



Yes, it does, and corruption typically isn't about 'a lawyer not looking it over'.

You know, Fry's Electronics had a Vice President who did a scam for hundreds of millions of dollars. That just proves that the private retail industry should be destroyed.

when public unions negotiate.... the state is giving them TAX DOLLARS.... the taxpayers don't have much of a say in that, and obviously MANY contracts and laws are very weak, and allow for taking advantage of the system. I'd think that by now they'd be writting tighter contracts.

for the private sector, thats people making bad desicions, but at their own expense, not that of everyone in the state.

 

[Ausm]

when public unions negotiate.... the state is giving them TAX DOLLARS.... the taxpayers don't have much of a say in that, and obviously MANY contracts and laws are very weak, and allow for taking advantage of the system. I'd think that by now they'd be writting tighter contracts.

for the private sector, thats people making bad desicions, but at their own expense, not that of everyone in the state.

The Public Unions only became "The Problem" after the stock market crashed and all those Public Employee pensions that were being invested in the stock market to a MAJOR hit.