2 questions for you Catholics on the board....

[GoingUp]

Do you find it weird at all, that it took until 1992 for the Catholic Church to admit the earth rotated around the sun?

And how much do you believe what the Catholic Church says? Are you pretty strict followers of what the Pope decrees?

 

[ScottFern]

my mom had six kids.......CATHOLIC!

 

[Special K]

Do you have a link of proof to the first one? I went to catholic schools as a child and in my science classes I don't recall anyone ever claiming that the earth did not rotate around the sun.

 

[Dumac]

Originally posted by: Special K
Do you have a link of proof to the first one? I went to catholic schools as a child and in my science classes I don't recall anyone ever claiming that the earth did not rotate around the sun.

They didn't stroll around refuting the fact, but the delayed publicly accepting that the earth rotated around the sun until recently. However, I don't remember the exact date.

 

[mugs]

Maybe they just forgot for a few hundred years that they ever claimed the sun rotated around the earth?

 

[JoPh]

i dont find anything odd. its my belief and thats all that matters to me.

 

[Analog]

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Do you find it weird at all, that it took until 1992 for the Catholic Church to admit the earth rotated around the sun?

And how much do you believe what the Catholic Church says? Are you pretty strict followers of what the Pope decrees?

I'm not catholic, but do you have anything to back up your claim? I find it a bit hard to believe.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

From Wikipedia's entry on heliocentrism:
"Pope Benedict XIV suspended the ban on heliocentric works on April 16, 1757 based on Isaac Newton's work. Pope Pius VII approved a decree in 1822 by the Sacred Congregation of the Inquisition to allow the printing of heliocentric books in Rome."

OP is likely confusing this with the fact that the Catholic Church officially pardoned Galileo in 1992.

 

[brandonb]

Really what difference does it make and how does it have anything to do with spirituality?

Thats my question to you...

I'm Catholic, and its not like the priests go from week to week saying the sun revolves around the earth. In fact, I don't think I've ever heard in a church anything ever mentioned to what revolves around what.

If the church didn't acknowledge it probably because at the time of the church's foundation, it was thought the sun did revolve around the earth and they never got around to updating it until the found it recorded until 1992.

 

[drinkmorejava]

meh, there's a difference between bothering to get around to publicly admitting something and having hundreds of years of astronomical records that you know show otherwise. Hell, as much as the Vatican has always been slow to accept new theories, their scholars have generally come to the same conclusion as scientific consensus around the same time. For instance, they wouldn't fund Columbus, because they knew he was a nut job thinking the earth's circumference was only 25,000 km when they had accurately estimated it at 40,000km.

 

[thecrecarc]

YART... omg. Wait till it turn into a flamefest

 

[Dumac]

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus
From Wikipedia's entry on heliocentrism:
"Pope Benedict XIV suspended the ban on heliocentric works on April 16, 1757 based on Isaac Newton's work. Pope Pius VII approved a decree in 1822 by the Sacred Congregation of the Inquisition to allow the printing of heliocentric books in Rome."

OP is likely confusing this with the fact that the Catholic Church officially pardoned Galileo in 1992.

Yeah. At least, that is what I was getting this confused with.

 

[GoingUp]

Originally posted by: Analog

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Do you find it weird at all, that it took until 1992 for the Catholic Church to admit the earth rotated around the sun?

And how much do you believe what the Catholic Church says? Are you pretty strict followers of what the Pope decrees?

I'm not catholic, but do you have anything to back up your claim? I find it a bit hard to believe.

http://novan.com/galileo.htm
http://www.catholicleague.org/research/galileo.html
http://www.cs.rutgers.edu/pub/soc.religion.christian/faq/galileo
http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/9921/1066/

 

[GoingUp]

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus
From Wikipedia's entry on heliocentrism:
"Pope Benedict XIV suspended the ban on heliocentric works on April 16, 1757 based on Isaac Newton's work. Pope Pius VII approved a decree in 1822 by the Sacred Congregation of the Inquisition to allow the printing of heliocentric books in Rome."

OP is likely confusing this with the fact that the Catholic Church officially pardoned Galileo in 1992.

Thats also a Wiki article that anyone can edit.

Heres a paragraph from an Australian newspaper.

http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/9921/1066/
"On October 31, 1992, Pope John Paul II and the Catholic Church state their remorse in how Galileo was treated. They admit that Galileo?s Sun-centered view of the solar system is correct and that the Earth is not stationary and that it revolves around the Sun. "

 

[Steve]

Didn't some southern state finally abolish slavery only recently? Do you find that weird at all?

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Do you find it weird at all, that it took until 1992 for the Catholic Church to admit the earth rotated around the sun?

And how much do you believe what the Catholic Church says? Are you pretty strict followers of what the Pope decrees?

#1, true or false, is like saying that you can get put in jail for having sex on sunday in some places. sure it's on the books, but no one pays any real attention to it.

#2 - the church, being a human institution, can be wrong. i think the pope can be as infallible as he wants on matters of faith, but matters of morality are not 100% crystal clear and the church will not be correct 100% of the time

 

[GoingUp]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Do you find it weird at all, that it took until 1992 for the Catholic Church to admit the earth rotated around the sun?

And how much do you believe what the Catholic Church says? Are you pretty strict followers of what the Pope decrees?

#1, true or false, is like saying that you can get put in jail for having sex on sunday in some places. sure it's on the books, but no one pays any real attention to it.

#2 - the church, being a human institution, can be wrong. i think the pope can be as infallible as he wants on matters of faith, but matters of morality are not 100% crystal clear and the church will not be correct 100% of the time

But to play devils advocate, plenty of people have blind faith to whatever their religious leaders tell them.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: sm8000
Didn't some southern state finally abolish slavery only recently? Do you find that weird at all?

I think it was Mississippi in the mid-90s... I remember watching Michael Moore's old show, TV Nation, where he had a black guy purchase 6 white slaves. Pretty funny.

Or maybe it was Michael Moore who purchased the 6 white slaves. Either way, pretty funny. Funny show in general. He did one bit on illegal immigration and the lack of security at the Canadian border - he went as far as to have a hockey team skate across the border on roller blades. No doubt set up, but it was funny.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Do you find it weird at all, that it took until 1992 for the Catholic Church to admit the earth rotated around the sun?

And how much do you believe what the Catholic Church says? Are you pretty strict followers of what the Pope decrees?

No. And I don't believe much of what the Catholic Church says.

But I DO love the women it produces. They REALLY know how be a good partner and a great mother. That is the primary reason I'm catholic.

I'm not kidding.

 

[Rogodin2]

I purchased my first VW bus from a Catholic Priest-he was a good man and believed that the earth was a correlation to creation.

I didn't believe him and started a VW Eutopian society with habitat on the CR.

Rogo

 

[doze]

It was more like the 1700's OP ...reburied at Santa Croce, sacred ground, in 1737. In 1741, Pope Benedict XIV authorized publication of Galileo's complete works. Heliocentrism was formally rescended as heresy in 1758.

Regarding the Pope's beliefs ... the church thinks premarital sex and masturbation are wrong

 

[Accipiter22]

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Do you find it weird at all, that it took until 1992 for the Catholic Church to admit the earth rotated around the sun?

And how much do you believe what the Catholic Church says? Are you pretty strict followers of what the Pope decrees?

They didn't FORMALLY recognize it, but it was basically a ceremonial type thing, like a football player signing a 1 day contract to retire with a team he played with forever.



And yes, I am a pretty strict follower, I use condoms, and have pre-marital sex, but I feel bad after always.



It's funny, I live in Massachusetts which is the 2nd most catholic state (behind rhode island) in the country, so I keep forgetting most are PRotestant in this country

 

[Accipiter22]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Do you find it weird at all, that it took until 1992 for the Catholic Church to admit the earth rotated around the sun?

And how much do you believe what the Catholic Church says? Are you pretty strict followers of what the Pope decrees?

No. And I don't believe much of what the Catholic Church says.

But I DO love the women it produces. They REALLY know how be a good partner and a great mother. That is the primary reason I'm catholic.

I'm not kidding.

I'm the youngest person at my church pretty much I always look for girls my age.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Accipiter22

And yes, I am a pretty strict follower, I use condoms, and have pre-marital sex, but I feel bad after always.

That's great :laugh:

 

[Finns14]

Originally posted by: Dumac

Originally posted by: Special K
Do you have a link of proof to the first one? I went to catholic schools as a child and in my science classes I don't recall anyone ever claiming that the earth did not rotate around the sun.

They didn't stroll around refuting the fact, but the delayed publicly accepting that the earth rotated around the sun until recently. However, I don't remember the exact date.

Ha so you like to just pull facts out of your ass