2 Police Officers Shot During Ferguson Protest

[TechBoyJK]

Oh,, please. The real story will never be known.

A DOJ investigation concluded that things happened pretty much as Wilson stated they did.

If you don't want to believe Brown charged Wilson; you can also refuse to believe Darren Wilson is white, and this happened in the USA. You're simply choosing not to believe something because it changes the false reality you are emotionally invested. It's easier to say 'well we don't know what really happened!'.

Yes, we do.

 

[Mxylplyx]

The circumstances of the Michael Brown incident are a sideshow to the true story here. Michael Brown was just the catalyst that lit the fuse on this powder keg that has been years in the making.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Had Wilson not fired, Brown would most likely still be alive.

That is remarkably disingenuous.

Had Wilson not fired, he'd likely be dead, because he was being charged by a violent thug who already tried to take his gun and resisted arrest.

Can you, with a straight face, deny that? Because if you deny these facts, you don't deserve a seat at the table because you're ignoring critical parts of the case.

 

[CitizenKain]

The protests were originally wrong to side with a violent criminal.
They spread lies of "hands up, don't shoot", which became a national symbol.
They burned, looted, and caused violence of their own.
The DOJ is cleaning house on the city... and protestors are still out there, for what?

Wrong.
Wasn't a lie.
No they didn't.
Because firing a few people slightly responsible for the issues isn't enough.

That is remarkably disingenuous.

Had Wilson not fired, he'd likely be dead, because he was being charged by a violent thug who already tried to take his gun and resisted arrest.

Can you, with a straight face, deny that? Because if you deny these facts, you don't deserve a seat at the table because you're ignoring critical parts of the case.

Oh you people believing that he tried to take his gun, that is really good. Or that he was charging. Because people often charge someone shooting at them.

 

[Jhhnn]

A DOJ investigation concluded that things happened pretty much as Wilson stated they did.

If you don't want to believe Brown charged Wilson; you can also refuse to believe Darren Wilson is white, and this happened in the USA. You're simply choosing not to believe something because it changes the false reality you are emotionally invested. It's easier to say 'well we don't know what really happened!'.

Yes, we do.

Negative. The DoJ determined that there was a lack of credible evidence to proceed against Wilson. They never said they believed him.

In that, I'm willing to apply Blackstone's formulation. Look it up if you don't know what it is.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Wrong.
Wasn't a lie.
No they didn't.
Because firing a few people slightly responsible for the issues isn't enough.

"Hands up Don't shoot" Never happened.

Unless you want to disagree with the multiple investigations, autopsies, etc. Of which case, you need to take your facts straight to the DOJ because they don't have the facts you do.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Wrong.
Wasn't a lie.
No they didn't.
Because firing a few people slightly responsible for the issues isn't enough.



Oh you people believing that he tried to take his gun, that is really good. Or that he was charging. Because people often charge someone shooting at them.

Brown charged at Wilson AND tried to take his gun. If you deny these facts, you might as well deny that this happened in the USA and claim that Wilson was a robot. You're denying basic reality.

 

[rudeguy]

The circumstances of the Michael Brown incident are a sideshow to the true story here. Michael Brown was just the catalyst that lit the fuse on this powder keg that has been years in the making.

Yep.

I said the same thing when this all started. And its not just in Ferguson, its all over the country. And no matter what the press and government tries to feed you, its all about race. Its the "us vs them" way of policing that is coming to a boil.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Negative. The DoJ determined that there was a lack of credible evidence to proceed against Wilson. They never said they believed him.

In that, I'm willing to apply Blackstone's formulation. Look it up if you don't know what it is.

And that lack of credible evidence, when faced with witness testimony, and wilson's testimony, which lines up with forensics, leaves the logical conclusion that things happened as Wilson said they did. Because there's no way to say they didn't, and anybody who said they didn't had their reality destroyed by forensics.

The DOJ's conclusion is that Wilson's story was credible. Take from that what you will, but that conclusion combined with everything else says what Wilson said happened, happened.

 

[Jaskalas]

Because firing a few people slightly responsible for the issues isn't enough.

You do not trust Eric Holder's Department of Justice to side with the protestors in Ferguson, after they released a condemnation of the police department?

Next up the Ferguson PD gets to beg not to be dismantled entirely. They will beg not to be placed under DOJ control, but will most likely end up that way unless full concessions are made to satisfy the DOJ. In short, the Department of Justice now owns Ferguson PD.

How is it not over with an absolute victory? When is enough... enough?

 

[cabri]

Wrong.

Because firing a few people slightly responsible for the issues isn't enough.

How many do you want to remove (or should be removed) and in what time frame.
Are they going to be replaced, how fast and from where?

Oh you people believing that he tried to take his gun, that is really good. Or that he was charging. Because people often charge someone shooting at them.

Then how did Browns hand get injured & his blood inside the vehicle?
Wilson grabbed Brown and bit his hand in the vehicle. Or was there some sharp object that conveniently caused bleeding that was not determined to be a slice/cut?

You choose to look at a small time frame; ignoring the overall scene and actions of the players. Becomes an excuse to hold onto your bias and false scenarios

 

[cabri]

Negative. The DoJ determined that there was a lack of credible evidence to proceed against Wilson. They never said they believed him.

In that, I'm willing to apply Blackstone's formulation. Look it up if you don't know what it is.

They found NOTHING. Everything matched up with his story.

It was not a lack of credible evidence, there was NOTHING. Nothing was provided/discovered that went against what he stated.

Had they found a shred of anything; they would have kept at it to nail him.

The DOJ looked for a year; potentially taking that long because of political pressure and surely as a sop to the black instigators like Jackson/Sharpton etc.

A whole year and NOTHING! Not that it was buried, not even a squeak of altered evidence.

They were not required to say that they believed him. they were required to find evidence to charge him and could not.
It is those that refuse to accept the Brown was fully responsible are wanting to repaint the goal posts from white to black.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Had Wilson not fired, Brown would most likely still be alive.

I still can't believe you have the gall to assert this. This has to be intentional trolling, or else this is what's going on

 

[blake0812]

Until cops get their shit together collectively I won't be shedding any tears. Sucks, maybe these two were great guys and didn't deserve this but hundreds of people are mistreated by cops every day and countless get shot unjustifiably. Until every cop makes it their duty to make things right there will be zero fucks given.

So these two cops deserved to get shot? You heard it here folks!

 

[dank69]

So these two cops deserved to get shot? You heard it here folks!

Read it again.

 

[alzan]

That is remarkably disingenuous.

Had Wilson not fired, he'd likely be dead, because he was being charged by a violent thug who already tried to take his gun and resisted arrest.

Can you, with a straight face, deny that? Because if you deny these facts, you don't deserve a seat at the table because you're ignoring critical parts of the case.

Yes I can with a straight face deny your supposition and whether you like it or not I deserve a seat at the table just as much as you.

I still can't believe you have the gall to assert this. This has to be intentional trolling, or else this is what's going on

Cute pic; is that you?

Yes I can assert that. If Wilson basically hadn't emptied his clip into Brown, aka not fired, Brown would most likely be alive.

Unless you don't believe that putting 8-9 bullets into a body has a good chance of ending that person's life.

There are lots of ways that incident could've ended that would've resulted in no death.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Yes I can with a straight face deny your supposition and whether you like it or not I deserve a seat at the table just as much as you.



Cute pic; is that you?

Yes I can assert that. If Wilson basically hadn't emptied his clip into Brown, aka not fired, Brown would most likely be alive.

Unless you don't believe that putting 8-9 bullets into a body has a good chance of ending that person's life.

There are lots of ways that incident could've ended that would've resulted in no death.

Your mental gymnastics are impressive. So you blame Wilson for Brown's death? Brown caused his own death. That's fact.

Wilson fired a series of bursts, none of which stopped Brown from charging until the final shots.

So what you're saying is that Wilson shouldn't have shot Brown. Gotcha. #AlzanIsFuckingRetarded

You are so beta it's sad.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Just FYI, Alzan repeatedly denies facts. He's still on the 'hands up don't shoot' bandwagon and refuses to listen to reason or accept anything that the DOJ found in the investigation.

He actually went as far as to claim Wilson is responsible for Brown's death, while denying that Brown charged Wilson.

So if you want to continue this discussion with him, have at it. I personally won't give this clown any more of my time. I'm better than that.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Yes I can with a straight face deny your supposition and whether you like it or not I deserve a seat at the table just as much as you.

Cute pic; is that you?

That's you, dumbass.

 

[MongGrel]

We don't even know if the people who opened fire were a part of the protest.

Be an amazing shot at 125 yards with a hand gun. I'd guess a rifle using a handgun round. We better ban M855 rounds just to be sure.

I really, really doubt this was a handgun shot at 125 yards. I'll eat my words if I'm wrong but I'm not. That's some hollywood shit. Especially hitting 2 targets at that range. Stuff like that just makes me believe the press even less.

Makes me wonder who was actually doing the shooting at the time.

Was one of the first things that came to my mind actually.

 

[alzan]

Your mental gymnastics are impressive. So you blame Wilson for Brown's death? Brown caused his own death. That's fact.

Wilson fired a series of bursts, none of which stopped Brown from charging until the final shots.

So what you're saying is that Wilson shouldn't have shot Brown. Gotcha. #AlzanIsFuckingRetarded

You are so beta it's sad.

I did not assign blame, I merely pointed out that noone needed to die that day.

An insulting hashtag, gosh I'm impressed.

Cute insult, is that the best you got?

Just FYI, Alzan repeatedly denies facts. He's still on the 'hands up don't shoot' bandwagon and refuses to listen to reason or accept anything that the DOJ found in the investigation.

He actually went as far as to claim Wilson is responsible for Brown's death, while denying that Brown charged Wilson.

So if you want to continue this discussion with him, have at it. I personally won't give this clown any more of my time. I'm better than that.

No I denied your supposition; a supposition is not a fact.

Nope, never denied that Brown charged Wilson. Sorry. Never been part of the "Hands up, don't shoot!" bandwagon. Please show me where I was or quit lying.

You're insults show quite clearly that you are not better than that.

That's you, dumbass.

More insults. My my, you're quite the debater.

who has two thumbs and thinks you don't matter?

techboyjk

Keep slinging the insults; I'm sure everyone who reads this thread is absolutely awed by your "debating" skills.

 

[CitizenKain]

I'm better than that.

That is exactly what a beta like you would say.

 

[TechBoyJK]

I did not assign blame, I merely pointed out that noone needed to die that day.

An insulting hashtag, gosh I'm impressed.

Cute insult, is that the best you got?



No I denied your supposition; a supposition is not a fact.

Nope, never denied that Brown charged Wilson. Sorry. Never been part of the "Hands up, don't shoot!" bandwagon. Please show me where I was or quit lying.

You're insults show quite clearly that you are not better than that.



More insults. My my, you're quite the debater.

who has two thumbs and thinks you don't matter?

techboyjk

 

[TechBoyJK]

That is exactly what a beta like you would say.

Cool story bro.

 

[MongGrel]

I'd love to do something like this to my Contender, but that's for the gun page I guess and more money than I care to spend on it.

http://www.larrywillis.com/custom-rifle.html

NM this belongs on the gun page anyway, not that relevant here.

Maybe.