2 new elements found.

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NEW YORK ? A team of Russian and American scientists reported today that it has produced two new chemical elements known as superheavies because of their enormous atomic mass.

The discoveries fill a gap at the furthest edge of the periodic table, and hint strongly at a weird landscape of undiscovered elements beyond.
 

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I love how they are "discovering" these elements by creating them. Gotta wonder how useful these and any new synthetic elements will be, yay for science, gotta keep taking steps even if we can't quite so clearly see where we are going.
 

GoodRevrnd

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Are these elements even stable enough to remain a new element for more than a second (or even pico second)?
 

Analog

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Originally posted by: GoodRevrnd
Are these elements even stable enough to remain a new element for more than a second (or even pico second)?

that's the kicker.
 

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Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
I love how they are "discovering" these elements by creating them. Gotta wonder how useful these and any new synthetic elements will be, yay for science, gotta keep taking steps even if we can't quite so clearly see where we are going.

some people can think outside of the short-term.
 

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
I love how they are "discovering" these elements by creating them. Gotta wonder how useful these and any new synthetic elements will be, yay for science, gotta keep taking steps even if we can't quite so clearly see where we are going.

some people can think outside of the short-term.

it could also be that these elements exist in other areas of the universe outside of earth.
 

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Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
I love how they are "discovering" these elements by creating them. Gotta wonder how useful these and any new synthetic elements will be, yay for science, gotta keep taking steps even if we can't quite so clearly see where we are going.

We're supposed to be reaching an "island of stability" which should occur ~118-120. Whatever we can do with the new elements, I don't know, but some of the heavier ones will be lasting longer. We just have to get there first.
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
I love how they are "discovering" these elements by creating them. Gotta wonder how useful these and any new synthetic elements will be, yay for science, gotta keep taking steps even if we can't quite so clearly see where we are going.

Without pure science, we'd still be living in trees.
 

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Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
I love how they are "discovering" these elements by creating them. Gotta wonder how useful these and any new synthetic elements will be, yay for science, gotta keep taking steps even if we can't quite so clearly see where we are going.
Wait, so science has been about stepping where we already know exactly what's there?
Heaven forbid we discover something new about our universe.
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Originally posted by: Beller0ph1
Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
I love how they are "discovering" these elements by creating them. Gotta wonder how useful these and any new synthetic elements will be, yay for science, gotta keep taking steps even if we can't quite so clearly see where we are going.

We're supposed to be reaching an "island of stability" which should occur ~118-120. Whatever we can do with the new elements, I don't know, but some of the heavier ones will be lasting longer. We just have to get there first.

I still wonder if we'll *ever* get there...
 

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Wow, who even cares how long the new elements last... It took them a month to create

FOUR ATOMS

and that's after running it for 24 hours a day!!!

I think the particles discovered in the late summer/early fall theoretically consisting of 4 quarks were much more interesting.
 

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Originally posted by: GoodRevrnd
Are these elements even stable enough to remain a new element for more than a second (or even pico second)?

I know that all those other weird ones (the ones with the weird three letter atomic symbols, like UUU, UUB, UU-whatever-else) were created and only lasted like fractions of a second. So I doubt these are any different.
 

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A major research institution has recently announced the discovery of the heaviest chemical element yet known to science. The new element has been tentatively named "Governmentium ".

Governmentium has 1 neutron, 12 assistant neutrons, 75 deputy neutrons, and 11 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 312.

These 312 particles are held together by forces called morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons. Since governmentium has no electrons, it is inert. However, it can be detected as it impedes every reaction with which it comes into contact. A minute amount of governmentium causes one reaction to take over 4 days to complete when it would normally take less than a second.

Governmentium has a normal half-life of 3 years; it does not decay, but instead undergoes a reorganization in which a portion of the assistant neutrons and deputy neutrons exchange places. In fact, governmentium's mass will actually increase over time, since each reorganization will cause some morons to become neutrons, forming isodopes.

This characteristic of moron-promotion leads some scientists to speculate that governmentium is formed whenever morons reach a certain quantity in concentration. This hypothetical quantity is referred to as "Critical Morass". You will know it when you see it.