2 million children are about to lose health insurance to pay for Republican corporate tax cuts.

[Phokus]

It always different until it effects you or someone you know. But, hey, you can keep blowing puffery and lamenting both sides all day on the internet. So you’ve got that going for you.

Yeah i always found it 'hilarious' how much Republicans suddenly love Obamacare after they become critically ill. These motherfuckers were happy to get this bill reversed when they were healthy.

 

[Jhhnn]

Why is it that fundamentalist Christians hate poor people so much and love rich people so much? I am having difficulties finding the verses supporting such a worldview.

There's this-

http://biblehub.com/ephesians/6-5.htm

 

[ch33zw1z]

There's this-

http://biblehub.com/ephesians/6-5.htm

Yea, but thats OT God, before he had a kid out of wedlock and was forced to grow up a bit. He still ended up a deadbeat dad, some other dude raised his kid and married his girl.

 

[momeNt]

They have until Friday don't they to renew the funding?

I think they are done slapping backs down at the Capital so they are probably going to get it passed I would think. No need to follow up a big win with a loss.

 

[Phokus]

[GOP]Those children should get their own damn health insurance, send them back to work in factories![/GOP]

 

[IronWing]

Yea, but thats OT God, before he had a kid out of wedlock and was forced to grow up a bit. He still ended up a deadbeat dad, some other dude raised his kid and married his girl.

Just as well, the Great Jehovy was a terrible father figure.

 

[thilanliyan]

[GOP]Those children should get their own damn health insurance, send them back to work in factories![/GOP]

Bootstraps come in size XS?

 

[blackangst1]

Kind of misleading title. It was Dems who didnt vote for the re-up because of...well...politics. From last month:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...r-political-games_us_59fc8b8be4b0b0c7fa39c75b

The House passed a bill Friday reauthorizing the lapsed Children’s Health Insurance Program. But instead of a bipartisan affair that Democrats and Republicans could pat themselves on the back for, the bill became a partisan fight over offsets that ultimately moves Congress further away from renewing CHIP.

The bill that passed Friday 242-174 ― with 227 Republicans and 15 Democrats voting yes, and 171 Democrats and 3 Republicans voting no ― almost certainly won’t become law. Instead, Congress will likely wait for an end-of-the-year spending bill to reauthorize the program, which covers roughly 9 million low-income children and pregnant women.

 

[fleshconsumed]

Kind of misleading title. It was Dems who didnt vote for the re-up because of...well...politics. From last month:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...r-political-games_us_59fc8b8be4b0b0c7fa39c75b

Stop cherry picking quotes, here's relevant paragraph:
"According to Democrats, the problem with the bill, which would extend CHIP for five years and reauthorize community health centers and other public health programs for two years, is that it would pay for children’s health insurance by taking money from a preventive care fund. The GOP bill would also use new Medicare means-testing to partially pay for CHIP. As Republicans repeatedly pointed out on the House floor Friday, Democrats were voting to protect seniors making $40,000 a month from paying about $135 more."

Sounds like Republicans wanted to fund CHIP by taking money away from other social nets.

 

[1sikbITCH]

Conservatives know that if those millions of children die without medical care, they won't make it to voting age and can't vote Dem. Sort of a passive genocide. Plus many of these children are black so the GOP is happy to clear them out.

Just like every Israeli citizen will serve in the military at age 18. If you are a Palestinian, it's better to blow them up as children than fight them as adults. Same thing.

 

[fskimospy]

Kind of misleading title. It was Dems who didnt vote for the re-up because of...well...politics. From last month:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...r-political-games_us_59fc8b8be4b0b0c7fa39c75b

Welll that and because the House bill was estimated to fund CHIP by enacting provisions that would cause between 300,000 and 700,000 adults to lose their health insurance through the ACA.

It was politics all right, but it was the Republicans playing politics by saying they would only fund insurance for children by sabotaging the ACA.

Pretty disgusting, no?

 

[Jhhnn]

Stop cherry picking quotes, here's relevant paragraph:
"According to Democrats, the problem with the bill, which would extend CHIP for five years and reauthorize community health centers and other public health programs for two years, is that it would pay for children’s health insurance by taking money from a preventive care fund. The GOP bill would also use new Medicare means-testing to partially pay for CHIP. As Republicans repeatedly pointed out on the House floor Friday, Democrats were voting to protect seniors making $40,000 a month from paying about $135 more."

Sounds like Republicans wanted to fund CHIP by taking money away from other social nets.

The old GOP shell game? Say it ain't so!

 

[blackangst1]

Stop cherry picking quotes, here's relevant paragraph:
"According to Democrats, the problem with the bill, which would extend CHIP for five years and reauthorize community health centers and other public health programs for two years, is that it would pay for children’s health insurance by taking money from a preventive care fund. The GOP bill would also use new Medicare means-testing to partially pay for CHIP. As Republicans repeatedly pointed out on the House floor Friday, Democrats were voting to protect seniors making $40,000 a month from paying about $135 more."

Sounds like Republicans wanted to fund CHIP by taking money away from other social nets.

I didnt cherry pick anything. Its as I said, politics.

 

[blackangst1]

Welll that and because the House bill was estimated to fund CHIP by enacting provisions that would cause between 300,000 and 700,000 adults to lose their health insurance through the ACA.

It was politics all right, but it was the Republicans playing politics by saying they would only fund insurance for children by sabotaging the ACA.

Pretty disgusting, no?

What Ive read, is partly the funding would come from cuts to the ACA Prevention fund. How would 300-700,000 people lose coverage because of that?

And the reason I said politics is, if you read the article, even the GOP itself couldnt decide how to fund it.

 

[Jhhnn]

I didnt cherry pick anything. Its as I said, politics.

Game theory dictates that hostage takers don't care about the hostage. That's been the story of GOP politics for a long while. Whenever they get a tax cut for the Rich hard-on they'll use it on somebody.

 

[fskimospy]

What Ive read, is partly the funding would come from cuts to the ACA Prevention fund. How would 300-700,000 people lose coverage because of that?

And the reason I said politics is, if you read the article, even the GOP itself couldnt decide how to fund it.

It was the other provisions in the bill as well. The whole thing was a toxic mess:

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/358622-house-passes-bill-to-fund-childrens-insurance-program

The House bill would charge higher premiums to wealthier Medicare beneficiaries, cut money from ObamaCare’s public health fund and shorten the grace period for ObamaCare enrollees who fail to make premium payments.

According to an analysis by the left-leaning Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, between 259,000 and 688,000 people could lose their insurance as a result of the shortened grace period.

While you should take CBPP's numbers with a grain of salt we're still talking about hundreds of thousands of people losing insurance so that the GOP won't take insurance away from children. It's like with the ACA where the GOP threatened to crash the worldwide financial system unless Democrats agreed to take insurance away from millions. You don't give in to hostage taking as it just encourages more of it.

 

[K1052]

If the House republicans are so pro-CHIP why don't they pass a clean bill reauthorizing and funding it that doesn't involve trying to kneecap other health programs. Oh right cause they don't really give a shit about 9M kids because deficits magically matter again after passage of a massive debt fueled corporate tax cut.

Letting CHIP run out of money confirms voter's worst suspicions about the GOP tax bill at a time when they really could use some good PR.

 

[interchange]

Trump is trying to push for increased military spending as well. I heard a Marc Short (white house director of legislative affairs) this morning. Sounding compelling. When asked about tax cuts, CHIP, government shutdown talk, Trump's agenda to increase military spending, Trump's promise to save social security and Medicaid, etc. he was able to point to "other programs" which could easily have funding cuts to support the increased spending. Well, what other programs Marc? I hear a lot of allusions to things, but until someone starts to specifically state where money might actually come from, I have to conclude that Republican lawmakers are full of shit.

 

[bshole]

I have to conclude that Republican lawmakers are full of shit....

....and corporate cash...

 

[Jhhnn]

If the House republicans are so pro-CHIP why don't they pass a clean bill reauthorizing and funding it that doesn't involve trying to kneecap other health programs. Oh right cause they don't really give a shit about 9M kids because deficits magically matter again after passage of a massive debt fueled corporate tax cut.

Letting CHIP run out of money confirms voter's worst suspicions about the GOP tax bill at a time when they really could use some good PR.

They don't care. They'll just rev up the self righteous hate machine leading to the election. Welfare queens! Illegals on welfare! Gubmint dependency! Gubmint waste! Slut shaming! Hard work! Bootstraps, you lazy moochers!

 

[Puffnstuff]

No shit its like they are opposite of what Jesus would of thought we should be? Selfish greedy hateful

Its because organized religion is not the same thing as Christianity and I promise you that if Jesus were here today he'd pick up that bullwhip and drive thousands of them out of the temples worldwide.

 

[senseamp]

I didnt cherry pick anything. Its as I said, politics.

It's politics for Republicans, but for people impacted it's their health and lives.

 

[Thebobo]

Its because organized religion is not the same thing as Christianity and I promise you that if Jesus were here today he'd pick up that bullwhip and drive thousands of them out of the temples worldwide.

Good point

 

[Sunburn74]

If the House republicans are so pro-CHIP why don't they pass a clean bill reauthorizing and funding it that doesn't involve trying to kneecap other health programs. Oh right cause they don't really give a shit about 9M kids because deficits magically matter again after passage of a massive debt fueled corporate tax cut.

Letting CHIP run out of money confirms voter's worst suspicions about the GOP tax bill at a time when they really could use some good PR.

Exactly. A clean bill would have had no opposition. Rather they want to connect everything to mythological bogey men like destroying the ACA and ending 12th month abortions.

 

[blackangst1]

It's politics for Republicans, but for people impacted it's their health and lives.

Huh. Yes because Dems dont play politics. Like not vote for renewal because they dont agree with its funding.

Yeah OK.

The fact you call out the GOP for the very thing BOTH parties do equally, definitely shows your partisanship. Good to know going forward.