2-liter bottle capacity

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DuffmanOhYeah

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Originally posted by: kevinthenerd
Originally posted by: DuffmanOhYeah
ok, ok, we seem to have drifted ever so slightly off topic. Let me see what I can do to put us back on.

Ahem..

omg teh braille pr0n

There.

So this is why you have over 1600 posts, eh?

Yes. And I see you have under 900. You have much to learn.

If you'd like, Im starting enrollment for wise-assery 101 in the near future. I'll put you down as a maybe?
 

kevinthenerd

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Originally posted by: DuffmanOhYeah
Originally posted by: kevinthenerd
Originally posted by: DuffmanOhYeah
ok, ok, we seem to have drifted ever so slightly off topic. Let me see what I can do to put us back on.

Ahem..

omg teh braille pr0n

There.

So this is why you have over 1600 posts, eh?

Yes. And I see you have under 900. You have much to learn.

If you'd like, Im starting enrollment for wise-assery 101 in the near future. I'll put you down as a maybe?

Well, some of us have to get off of the computer every now and then.
 

kevinthenerd

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Originally posted by: Zhou
2 liter bottle can do about 60-70 PSI safely, they are commonly used for water bottle rockets.. etc...

Another option is PVC pipes, PVC pipes are stronger than metal pipes (holds way more PSI).
Even high strength PVC pipes can only hold about 500-600 MAX PSI.


In other words, DONOT use 2 liter bottles!

If you want to hold extremely high PSI, you need ultra thick metal storage tanks.

Oh btw what do you need this for?
I have quite a bit of experience with PSI / containers for different kinds of water / air rockets / launchers.
Won state at numerous related competitions.

I want a cheap forced-induction system for a lawn mower.
 

DrPizza

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I repeat: bursting strength is typically between 150 and 200 psi. Glugglug is correct that above some certain pressure, the 2 liter bottle will slowly stretch and get thinner. Having pressurized many many 2 liter bottles at 100 psi (I use a pressure regulator for consistency in competitions among students), I haven't experienced any bursting 2 liter bottles. Of the numerous sites I've polled, 100 psi is about the highest regarded as safe.. many say 90 psi or less. However, I do *NOT* allow students to go near a pressurized bottle. And, I'm a little nervous whenever something goes wrong and a bottle doesn't release correctly (such as the string to the launch pin becoming disconnected)
 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: etech
3500 psi, no way.

A quick google search shows a limit of around 100 psi.

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google is your friend

edit.

If you need convincing not to exceed the safe limits there is a video around where someone has one blow up while they are holding it. They make pretty good bombs.

Safety first.


Someone posted that video about 2 weeks ago in OT. I wish I could find it, I had it on my computer but deleted it lest my own sons get some ideas... Morons were mixing ammonia and alcohol in a bottle.
Other morons mix aluminum foil and drano. People like me used to fill the bottle 1/3 of the way with vinegar, then pinch the sides together so that when baking soda is poured in, it doesn't come into contact with the vinegar. Then cap, quickly shake, and throw.

I quit doing that the day the cap on a bottle ruptured when the bottle hit the ground... just right. The empty 1 liter bottle went over my shoulder (inches away) at a speed that would have sent me to the emergency room. I was fortunate to learn my lesson with a near miss. (since many in this thread seem familiar with paintball, imagine something moving about 3 times the speed of a paintball.) Video analysis of water rockets reveals that the 2 liter bottles accelerate in the neighborhood of 10,000 m/s^2 (about 100 times the acceleration of gravity)
 

bdjohnson

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Originally posted by: kevinthenerd
Originally posted by: DuffmanOhYeah
ok, ok, we seem to have drifted ever so slightly off topic. Let me see what I can do to put us back on.

Ahem..

omg teh braille pr0n

There.

So this is why you have over 1600 posts, eh?

they last pretty long i think. For the most part i think that they are recycled. when they get thrown away it is generally really serious problem with the tank since they are kinda expensive and it would be better to fix it.
 

ApacheXMD

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Originally posted by: kevinthenerd


I want a cheap forced-induction system for a lawn mower.

You're gonna fill up a 2liter bottle with compressed air and let it rip into the engine nitrous-style?

-patchy
 

kevinthenerd

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Originally posted by: bdjohnson
yeah what are you using this for?

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd
I want a cheap forced-induction system for a lawn mower.

Having a tank of compressed air would come in handy for a short burst of power without the heat disadvantage of a supercharger or a turbocharger, and without the materials handling problems of nitrous oxide.

 

kevinthenerd

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Originally posted by: ApacheXMD
Originally posted by: kevinthenerd





I want a cheap forced-induction system for a lawn mower.



You're gonna fill up a 2liter bottle with compressed air and let it rip into the engine nitrous-style?



-patchy

Yep. I never said I was sane.
 

TitanDiddly

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*cough* I just did a quick search and I may be able to get my hands on 3 old SCUBA bottle regionally, for free. Want to pay shipping + $10?
 

kevinthenerd

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Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox
*cough* I just did a quick search and I may be able to get my hands on 3 old SCUBA bottle regionally, for free. Want to pay shipping + $10?

How much is shipping? I'm gonna look at a dive shop in my home town first.
 

ApacheXMD

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Originally posted by: kevinthenerd
Originally posted by: bdjohnson
yeah what are you using this for?

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd
I want a cheap forced-induction system for a lawn mower.

Having a tank of compressed air would come in handy for a short burst of power without the heat disadvantage of a supercharger or a turbocharger, and without the materials handling problems of nitrous oxide.

Somehow I don't think this will work very well, if at all..

-patchy
 

kevinthenerd

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Originally posted by: ApacheXMD
Originally posted by: kevinthenerd

Originally posted by: bdjohnson

yeah what are you using this for?



Originally posted by: kevinthenerd

I want a cheap forced-induction system for a lawn mower.



Having a tank of compressed air would come in handy for a short burst of power without the heat disadvantage of a supercharger or a turbocharger, and without the materials handling problems of nitrous oxide.



Somehow I don't think this will work very well, if at all..



-patchy

The numbers work out, so I don't care what you people say about the feasibility.