2 hours in the ER for a bad stomach ache

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: jjsole
Sounds like the hospital bill.

Wait until you get the doctors bill.

Yeah, this is the greatest thing about hospitals... the doctors themselves get to bill you separately. And sometimes the labs too!

Nothing like triple-dipping to make you want to strap on some kneepads and lube up for the ride!

 

[WA261]

Not really much I could do. It hurt so bad it was unreal.

 

[Yzzim]

As far as I'm aware, you don't get charged for how long you're in the ER. You get charged for the level of care you receive and the different tests that are done.

 

[Yzzim]

Originally posted by: SunnyD

Originally posted by: jjsole
Sounds like the hospital bill.

Wait until you get the doctors bill.

Yeah, this is the greatest thing about hospitals... the doctors themselves get to bill you separately. And sometimes the labs too!

Nothing like triple-dipping to make you want to strap on some kneepads and lube up for the ride!

Usually not how it works for the ER. ER doctors generally get paid by the hour, not by the number of patients they see.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: Yzzim

Originally posted by: SunnyD

Originally posted by: jjsole
Sounds like the hospital bill.

Wait until you get the doctors bill.

Yeah, this is the greatest thing about hospitals... the doctors themselves get to bill you separately. And sometimes the labs too!

Nothing like triple-dipping to make you want to strap on some kneepads and lube up for the ride!

Usually not how it works for the ER. ER doctors generally get paid by the hour, not by the number of patients they see.

Not uncommon at all for the ER too. That's how its worked with me, one bill for the hospital usage, and one bill for the doctor's care. Two envelopes.

 

[keird]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: zinfamous


true, but some people (the 60 million or so? without healthcare) have little other choice.

I pay for my own out of pocket. It's pretty cheap.

Yeah. This is how it used to be 30-40 years ago. General practicioners were affordable, too. But cash is still great for a primary care doc. They don't have to have their staff spend umpteen hours trying to get paid from an insurace company that's trying to gain as much profit as they can.

My buddy paid $75.00 for a routine visit to the doctor. I wonder how much reimbursment the insurance company gives. Probably less with a lot more red tape.

 

[Gothgar]

I had a stomach ache earlier, I drank Fat Tire and it went away

 

[zerocool84]

People forget that there's a huge difference between County Hospitals/Private Hospitals. I went to UCLA Harbor County Hospital in Los Angeles County in April to remove a Pilonidal Cyst and they put an I.V. with antibiotics and I was in a room for 4 hours and they tested my blood to check for bacterial infection and the bill came out to $650.

 

[NoReMoRsE]

w00t for being in Canada.

 

[SagaLore]

Why on earth would you go to the ER for a stomach ache?

 

[StageLeft]

Wow that is fvcking brutal. You didn't get $1200 in services, you got gouged as all people without insurance do when they pay out of pocket.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: nonameo

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: SandEagle
well, after much nagging from the old lady i went to the ER because I had very intense stomach pains. They kept me in an ER space, not even a room, for 2 hours. doctor came by and asked a few questions. got an IV and was told to just take it easy.

got a $1200 bill just for that :| i knew i shouldve just stayed home and drank salt water.........FML

Thats the problem with our nation's health care today. They don't advertise prices before hand, so in essence, you're handing them a blank check.

That and people going to the ER instead of their regular doctor.

true, but some people (the 60 million or so? without healthcare) have little other choice.

We're up to 60 million now? Last I heard, it was 47 million.

Anyways, only about 10-15 million of that number truly don't have health insurance. The rest are non-citizens, people with enough money for insurance but choose not to purchase it, people that are eligible for Medicaid or S-CHIP and haven't signed up, young people who think they are invincible, etc.

but what about all of the other people who have plans with crazy high deductibles? They get counted as having "insurance" but could still easily get socked with 10k in new medical debt every year.

Let alone half of bankruptcies are from medical reasons and most of them HAVE insurance.

"most of those bankrupted by illness had health insurance. More than three-quarters were insured at the start of the bankrupting illness."

http://www.consumeraffairs.com...udy.html#ixzz0PTaKJZVR

 

[KMFJD]

Originally posted by: NoReMoRsE
w00t for being in Canada.

Don't you people have to enter a lottery to get medical care>?

 

[2Xtreme21]

There's nothing wrong with our health care system! :roll:

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: SandEagle
well, after much nagging from the old lady i went to the ER because I had very intense stomach pains. They kept me in an ER space, not even a room, for 2 hours. doctor came by and asked a few questions. got an IV and was told to just take it easy.

got a $1200 bill just for that :| i knew i shouldve just stayed home and drank salt water.........FML

Thats the problem with our nation's health care today. They don't advertise prices before hand, so in essence, you're handing them a blank check.

the problem is someone like the OP going in to an ER for a non emergency thinking they have a right to 24/7 access to a doctor because they have insurance / someone else is paying.

Urgent care is designed for this...so is being a man and seeing your normal doc in the morning.

The comment about not getting a room in the ER, priceless.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: nonameo

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: SandEagle
well, after much nagging from the old lady i went to the ER because I had very intense stomach pains. They kept me in an ER space, not even a room, for 2 hours. doctor came by and asked a few questions. got an IV and was told to just take it easy.

got a $1200 bill just for that :| i knew i shouldve just stayed home and drank salt water.........FML

Thats the problem with our nation's health care today. They don't advertise prices before hand, so in essence, you're handing them a blank check.

That and people going to the ER instead of their regular doctor.

true, but some people (the 60 million or so? without healthcare) have little other choice.

We're up to 60 million now? Last I heard, it was 47 million.

Anyways, only about 10-15 million of that number truly don't have health insurance. The rest are non-citizens, people with enough money for insurance but choose not to purchase it, people that are eligible for Medicaid or S-CHIP and haven't signed up, young people who think they are invincible, etc.

but what about all of the other people who have plans with crazy high deductibles? They get counted as having "insurance" but could still easily get socked with 10k in new medical debt every year.

Let alone half of bankruptcies are from medical reasons and most of them HAVE insurance.

"most of those bankrupted by illness had health insurance. More than three-quarters were insured at the start of the bankrupting illness."

http://www.consumeraffairs.com...udy.html#ixzz0PTaKJZVR

medical reasons have been shown to be more of a easy way out in bankruptcy rather than the real cause too.

I don't have any of the 'links' handy but when I was looking to file it I saw tons of writeups how to leverage the things the courts will accept.

It was easy to put one's self in $100k+ of debt, have one semi major medical and then say you can't afford to send $200 to the hospital each month yet are paying out $2-3k in cc bills and spending about the same on fluff.

Most of those studies are also trying to push national health care which for anyone but the poorest of poor will be a fucking disaster.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: SandEagle
well, after much nagging from the old lady i went to the ER because I had very intense stomach pains. They kept me in an ER space, not even a room, for 2 hours. doctor came by and asked a few questions. got an IV and was told to just take it easy.

got a $1200 bill just for that :| i knew i shouldve just stayed home and drank salt water.........FML

Thats the problem with our nation's health care today. They don't advertise prices before hand, so in essence, you're handing them a blank check.

but if they handed u a price u could shop around

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: nonameo

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: SandEagle
well, after much nagging from the old lady i went to the ER because I had very intense stomach pains. They kept me in an ER space, not even a room, for 2 hours. doctor came by and asked a few questions. got an IV and was told to just take it easy.

got a $1200 bill just for that :| i knew i shouldve just stayed home and drank salt water.........FML

Thats the problem with our nation's health care today. They don't advertise prices before hand, so in essence, you're handing them a blank check.

That and people going to the ER instead of their regular doctor.

true, but some people (the 60 million or so? without healthcare) have little other choice.

We're up to 60 million now? Last I heard, it was 47 million.

Anyways, only about 10-15 million of that number truly don't have health insurance. The rest are non-citizens, people with enough money for insurance but choose not to purchase it, people that are eligible for Medicaid or S-CHIP and haven't signed up, young people who think they are invincible, etc.

but what about all of the other people who have plans with crazy high deductibles? They get counted as having "insurance" but could still easily get socked with 10k in new medical debt every year.

Let alone half of bankruptcies are from medical reasons and most of them HAVE insurance.

"most of those bankrupted by illness had health insurance. More than three-quarters were insured at the start of the bankrupting illness."

http://www.consumeraffairs.com...udy.html#ixzz0PTaKJZVR

medical reasons have been shown to be more of a easy way out in bankruptcy rather than the real cause too.

I don't have any of the 'links' handy but when I was looking to file it I saw tons of writeups how to leverage the things the courts will accept.

It was easy to put one's self in $100k+ of debt, have one semi major medical and then say you can't afford to send $200 to the hospital each month yet are paying out $2-3k in cc bills and spending about the same on fluff.

Most of those studies are also trying to push national health care which for anyone but the poorest of poor will be a fucking disaster.

The study I linked to was done by a Dr at harvard.

"Dr. David Himmelstein, the lead author of the study and an Associate Professor of Medicine at Harvard"

This study was also done during the Bush years well before any calls for "nationals health care", as you put it, was even brought up.


If you have anything I can look at the says otherwise I am open.

 

[alkemyst]

there are scientists that don't believe we made it to the moon in 1969 either. Some came from Harvard. National health care is not a 'new' thing (lol), it's been talked about way before Bush.

anyway....for those saying costs are not 'posted'...you are always free to request an estimate prior to getting the care.

 

[SandEagle]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: SandEagle
well, after much nagging from the old lady i went to the ER because I had very intense stomach pains. They kept me in an ER space, not even a room, for 2 hours. doctor came by and asked a few questions. got an IV and was told to just take it easy.

got a $1200 bill just for that :| i knew i shouldve just stayed home and drank salt water.........FML

Thats the problem with our nation's health care today. They don't advertise prices before hand, so in essence, you're handing them a blank check.

the problem is someone like the OP going in to an ER for a non emergency thinking they have a right to 24/7 access to a doctor because they have insurance / someone else is paying.

Urgent care is designed for this...so is being a man and seeing your normal doc in the morning.

The comment about not getting a room in the ER, priceless.

regardless of whether its an emergency or not, how can u justify $1200 for that level of care/service?
i agree though that if they gave me upfront pricing, i wouldnt have gone through with it.

 

[SandEagle]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

the problem is someone like the OP going in to an ER for a non emergency thinking they have a right to 24/7 access to a doctor because they have insurance / someone else is paying.

Urgent care is designed for this...so is being a man and seeing your normal doc in the morning.

The comment about not getting a room in the ER, priceless.

edit: double post fail

 

[FoBoT]

next time, call your local death panel and ask them whether you should go to the ER or not

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
next time, call your local death panel and ask them whether you should go to the ER or not

or if the line is busy just give ole Sarah a call

 

[Kaieye]

But what would happened if you had appendicitis and it was going to burst?

 

[Regs]

Originally posted by: Kaieye
But what would happened if you had appendicitis and it was going to burst?

A 40k dollar hospital bill.