2 Amd 280x's w/intel chipset or 1 gtx 770

[ROKINRANDY]

First off Nice to meet everyone here,This forum looks good!
Here's my situation I'm not Mr.Pimp daddy money bags and I don't foresee the purchase of any 4 k monitors anytime soon,I'm using hdtv for atleast another few years...that's what my wife says....And I never asked advice on a forum..So OK here it goes.


Now! I just sold my Gtx 570 while it was still worth a little money. My mobo says it is crossfirex ready,But it has intel h67 chipset and a sandy bridge core processor.. Which is wierd because I heard Intel don't get along with AMD to well.. Driver issues and the likes..

I wasn't gaming when I bought the Mobo, But now that I am a crossfirex ready board with an Intel chipset makes as much sense to me as a pan-handler, who can stand all day in the sun with a will work for food sign, but doesn't even want to work in doors where it's cool!!!

I'm not card biased I just want what's the best in my situation? it would be nice to be able to put a 280x in there and go crossfire in another year or 2 when i have the money... But is that a good idea with the Intel chipset?
I mean there are people selling their Amd 280x on eBay right now because they say to many driver issues? Oh and, I will also have to buy a new power supply


SOOOOOOOO

Well I was thinking Hell! I'll just get a gtx 770 then! The heck with it! and just be happy with it because I know it will work,I know it will fit,And I wont have to buy a power supply for it......But wait a minute,My board is not sli ready so I'll be stuck with that a loooong time..


Hmmmmmm well i plan on spending 200-ish for a card on eBay and get whats best... I think the Amd 280x but I don't want driver issues and artifacts, black squares...So this is why I posted.. Any advice is welcome I'll let you know if It helps and give you a million:thumbsup: and 100 kudos
Thanks for the help , RR

 

[Enigmoid]

280x is a much better buy than the 770.

AMD's drivers are quite good.

You should be able to pick up a used 290 for ~$200.

 

[ROKINRANDY]

280x is a much better buy than the 770.

AMD's drivers are quite good.

You should be able to pick up a used 290 for ~$200.

That's what i was thinking,
By good do you mean you have experienced the game play or know anybody running any of the 280x or above with the Amd drivers with the intel chipset mobo instead of an AMD mobo ?
I'm just being cautious.
Because there are a lot of complaints on line about the intel and AMD together,mostly artifact issues....Some are using sapphire and true-color brands. one was even MSI..
Is this something to be concerned with or any additional facts regarding these complaints or updates on fixes...I haven't seen any resolutions or answers yet and that is why I'm being cautious...
Thanks Enigmoid:thumbsup:

 

[3DVagabond]

3gig or 2gig VRAM? Considering the way games are going the decision os easy.

 

[Enigmoid]

AMD's drivers are fine. You should have no problems.

 

[ROKINRANDY]

3gig or 2gig VRAM? Considering the way games are going the decision os easy.

It should be,but
I read a lot of complaints..trying to learn more about why people are having the issues...could've been a patch or an update. There's even one guy on ebay right now selling his 280x because he can't deal with the driver issues..BUT I DID find this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXVY80yYPEY

 

[ROKINRANDY]

AMD's drivers are fine. You should have no problems.

Yea,:thumbsup::thumbsup: I like it..I'm switching from Nvidia to AMD Watch out!!

 

[ROKINRANDY]

The ati ,asus and xfx r290 are around 220.00 everything else is 250-300.00 on ebay.. Hopefully with what I made and whatever I get on my B day will make it happen..Thanks again

 

[RussianSensation]

I'm not card biased I just want what's the best in my situation? it would be nice to be able to put a 280x in there and go crossfire in another year or 2 when i have the money... But is that a good idea with the Intel chipset?

Don't do that. Pay a little extra and get an after-market R9 290/970. CF/SLI has the worst smoothness as you start approaching lower frames per second. That is why it's best to go SLI/CF in the first 2 years of a generation. Considering an HD7970 (aka R9 280X) is 3 years old, you are starting off a mid-range level of performance. From that level, going CF in 2 more years is not a good idea.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202143&cm_re=r9_290-_-14-202-143-_-Product

If you can't afford new, see if you can find a used after-market R9 290. Make sure to skip the reference/blower model. Also, tell us what PSU and CPU you have so we have a better idea.

 

[ROKINRANDY]

If I'd seen your msg I would've probably waited but!
I can't afford a 290 anyways..I only have a 550 watt power supply so I have to buy a new power supply..
I got lucky to find an msi twin frozr 280x for 149.00 because they have been going for 180 - 200 with shipping included on ebay lately...So I jumped on it...Hopefully i can crossfire that...Wow its past my bed time..I just wantedto let yall know i got something and thanks...


What do you think about 2 msi twins in crossfire with a sandybridge i7 ?
I didn't know about the next generation drag factor...sounds like good info!!

 

[RussianSensation]

I can't afford a 290 anyways..I only have a 550 watt power supply so I have to buy a new power supply..

$149 for that 280X is a great deal as a stop-gap gaming solution. What PSU brand do you have?

What do you think about 2 msi twins in crossfire with a sandybridge i7 ?
I didn't know about the next generation drag factor...sounds like good info!!

Sandy i7 won't hold back those cards, but if in 1.5-2 years you are looking to buy a 2nd 280X, it's possible you may be better off selling that 280X for $75 and just getting a next generation $250 card. I think by March 2017 we should be able to buy near GTX980 level of performance for $249 and at that point, that's a superior gaming solution to dual 280Xs.

 

[digitaldurandal]

If I'd seen your msg I would've probably waited but!
I can't afford a 290 anyways..I only have a 550 watt power supply so I have to buy a new power supply..
I got lucky to find an msi twin frozr 280x for 149.00 because they have been going for 180 - 200 with shipping included on ebay lately...So I jumped on it...Hopefully i can crossfire that...Wow its past my bed time..I just wantedto let yall know i got something and thanks...


What do you think about 2 msi twins in crossfire with a sandybridge i7 ?
I didn't know about the next generation drag factor...sounds like good info!!

If you were fine with a 570 for a while you shouldn't have complaints with the 280x. I would hold off on crossfire as it is really only a good idea with higher end cards for higher resolutions.

It is better to get 1 290 than 2x 280x's and it will be cheaper. As a matter of fact you could save enough money to get a PSU.

Find your PSU brand and model and do a Google search for a review and see what is said about it. If you have a generic you may not like what you read.

If you already bought a 280x I would stick with it, you should be fine. Let us know when you get it how everything works out.

 

[AtenRa]

but if in 1.5-2 years you are looking to buy a 2nd 280X, it's possible you may be better off selling that 280X for $75 and just getting a next generation $250 card. I think by March 2017 we should be able to buy near GTX980 level of performance for $249 and at that point, that's a superior gaming solution to dual 280Xs.

+1

You get better performance, lower consumption, more features etc etc.

 

[Headfoot]

+1

You get better performance, lower consumption, more features etc etc.

Another +1 for this here.

As a rule of thumb, don't get 2 cards until you're using the fastest single card. That's where the driver issues come in, in 2 or more card set ups. In 2 years there will be faster cards and you can just sell off this one and upgrade again just like how you're doing it now

 

[ROKINRANDY]

If you were fine with a 570 for a while you shouldn't have complaints with the 280x. I would hold off on crossfire as it is really only a good idea with higher end cards for higher resolutions.

It is better to get 1 290 than 2x 280x's and it will be cheaper. As a matter of fact you could save enough money to get a PSU.

Find your PSU brand and model and do a Google search for a review and see what is said about it. If you have a generic you may not like what you read.

If you already bought a 280x I would stick with it, you should be fine. Let us know when you get it how everything works out.

Yea Thanks I'll do that,right on.
The 570 was my first higher end pc card and is responsible for getting me back into gaming.. After play station 1 and half life on PC and the introduction of Ps2 I was bored senseless with gaming...
I seen the skyrim Mods on YouTube and I've been back every since..The wife surprised me with an Xbox One for Christmas and shadows of Mordor... So I had to Downloaded Shadows for the PC and see what it could do...I said yea can't have my Xbox fan boy buddy over here putting the PC down..
And Shadows requires 6mb of vram to run at full texture quality...I don't know how much Vram is in the Xbox one but it's not no 6mb...I'm guessing about 2mb ... So the GTX 570 twin Frozr has to go..
It was and still is a damn good card though...Plays most of the games at full for xbox one that Ive played and it came out in 2006...So Yea, I think I'll be very pleased with the 280x as long as it doesn't fart out or do anything weird

 

[ROKINRANDY]

$149 for that 280X is a great deal as a stop-gap gaming solution. What PSU brand do you have?



Sandy i7 won't hold back those cards, but if in 1.5-2 years you are looking to buy a 2nd 280X, it's possible you may be better off selling that 280X for $75 and just getting a next generation $250 card. I think by March 2017 we should be able to buy near GTX980 level of performance for $249 and at that point, that's a superior gaming solution to dual 280Xs.

My days of affording just about anything is gone,as long as my wife has a pc that plays candy pet land saga and those games I'll always have issues when it comes to buying pc gear... I had to skimp on my mobo,power supply and i was lucky to get the core processor ...I don't think I'll ever be able to buy 2 cards new unless I win the lotto....And I probably do better buying one decent card used with my budget...And I better have one to sell while it's worth something to supplement the payment..So that's what I'll do if putting 2 older out of date 280x msi twins together will eventually lag or cause a slide show..I can't stand that..Thanks man:thumbsup:

 

[RussianSensation]

My days of affording just about anything is gone,as long as my wife has a pc that plays candy pet land saga and those games I'll always have issues when it comes to buying pc gear... I had to skimp on my mobo,power supply and i was lucky to get the core processor ...I don't think I'll ever be able to buy 2 cards new unless I win the lotto....And I probably do better buying one decent card used with my budget...And I better have one to sell while it's worth something to supplement the payment..So that's what I'll do if putting 2 older out of date 280x msi twins together will eventually lag or cause a slide show..I can't stand that..Thanks man:thumbsup:

You are welcome. If you ever need help with PC parts, we'll be here when your next upgrade comes up in a couple years. :thumbsup:

 

[Techhog]

Whoever told you that AMD cards don't work on Intel boards was wrong and likely not very smart. I have heard of zero actual cases of such issues.

 

[schmuckley]

2 280X's definitely.
GTX 770 isn't that great..

 

[ROKINRANDY]

Whoever told you that AMD cards don't work on Intel boards was wrong and likely not very smart. I have heard of zero actual cases of such issues.

Well I Don't know either way,Video cards and computers are definitely out of the realm of my expertise so I hope that doesn't make me not that smart??
I'm pretty good at many things,none of which draw any real income,lol .

But one should think about what they are going to say and do some research before posting or opening their mouth.Unfortunately the web is plagued with some comments claiming the drivers are no good.
But I believe you guys know what you are talking about. Considering the source, I've seen it on a pc review of the card(The comments),YouTube and on Ebay(reason for selling) so yea consider the source.

 

[HurleyBird]

AMD's drivers are at least as good as Nvidia's right now in terms of stability, and better in terms of delivering smooth frame times.

 

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

Most AMD cards on Flee Bay are out of Coin miners rigs(used hard), I'd advise buying new. Then again I'm sure there are a few that were not in a coin miners rig, Oh and Welcome to the forums!!!!

PS never had an issue with drivers(unless it was my fault)I have had many cross fire set ups.

 

[ROKINRANDY]

You are welcome. If you ever need help with PC parts, we'll be here when your next upgrade comes up in a couple years. :thumbsup:

I really do hope it's less than 2 years,I got the bug! Especially since I have boat loads of foam and making room to record and set up some mic booths and guitar amp booths and a good Daws with a mobo that includes at least one of the old school pci sots will be nice for my old but awesome M-audio delta studio.
Not to mention I just noticed the big price drop in 4k monitors and tv sets.So something's gonna have to give and soon.

 

[ROKINRANDY]

Most AMD cards on Flee Bay are out of Coin miners rigs(used hard), I'd advise buying new. Then again I'm sure there are a few that were not in a coin miners rig, Oh and Welcome to the forums!!!!

PS never had an issue with drivers(unless it was my fault)I have had many cross fire set ups.

If it were not for the flees I wouldn't have anything. I keep hearing about that bit coin and mining thing,I'm not even sure what it is. Or can imagine why it would require good graphics. And thank you

 

[ROKINRANDY]

This is an Antec bronze certified rated power supply.. The MSI web site says 550 watt minimum and 30 amps. I'm assuming I should buy a new PSU. But do I really have to? It is after all a 550 watt power supply and it says max load 36 amps. Seems like it meets everything for a single card. except I need to buy a gpu 8 pin adapter...
Or should I post this as a new thread at the PSU threads. Thanks
https://forum-en.msi.com/faq/article/printer/power-requirements-for-graphics-cards

model #; TP II - 550 , it's an Antec true power 2.0