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2.6ghz Athlon or 2.0ghz X2?

Kaido

Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
I'm looking at new laptops; the latest version offers a 4000+ 2.6ghz Athlon. I'm currently running a 2.0ghz 3200+, so it should be a pretty good performane boost. However, from what I've read, the X2 Turions are coming out around May, so we should be seeing dual-core laptops later this year. It looks like 2.0ghz X2 and 2.2ghz X2 chips will be released as the high-end models (link). Is it worth waiting to get an X2, even though it's a lower clock speed? I do a lot of graphics and page layout stuff on my system and a bit of gaming (mostly just HL2).
 
Your better off with the higher clocked single core for what you use your computer for. All the stuff you say you use it for are single thread applications which get no boost from a second core.
 
^^

Agreed. When I had to choose between my new Opty 165 that oc'ed up to 2.2GHz (i got a dud) or my dad's opty 144 that oc'ed up to 2.8GHz for gaming, it was a no brainer. I have the 165 in my dad's computer now, and the 144 in mine.
 
Get the single core processor and wait 2 or 3 years when you'll actually neeed a multi-core processor.
 
Originally posted by: meatfestival
X2.

I've yet to see any game benchmarks that show any need for having a faster CPU than 2.2ghz.

Makes sense, especially in a laptop where the graphics ability is not going to test a 2.6 Athlon in any way at all.
 
Originally posted by: George Powell
Originally posted by: meatfestival
X2.

I've yet to see any game benchmarks that show any need for having a faster CPU than 2.2ghz.

Makes sense, especially in a laptop where the graphics ability is not going to test a 2.6 Athlon in any way at all.

Yeah, the 2.6ghz Athlon laptop has a 128mb x600. Only slightly better than my existing 64mb Radeon 9600 lol.
 
X2 easily.


Anyone can run sandra and see that their cpu scores higher or whatever, but there will be no tangible difference in real world use in one task between a 2Ghz X2 and a 2.6Ghz 64.

However, ponder these scenarios:

You are burning a cd or dvd and want to play game at the same time. It would be near impossible on a single core cpu, and if you do manage to get it to work, one of the two programs would run extremely slow. With a dual core, both programs will run at full speed completely independant of one another, as well as if you were running two separate programs on two separate machines.

Suppose you were transferring large files over a network. If you wanted to play a game at the same time, the transfer would be bogged and slow down like crazy on a single core. On a dual core, whether you play the game or not, the transfer will still be going at normal speed.

Your antivirus has not been run in a few weeks. It keeps popping up and wanting you to run a complete scan. With a single core, you can only do very light tasks while scanning antivirus. With a dual core, you can go ahead and do the most intensive tasks your computer can do while scanning for viruses without issue.

Then there is the benefit of multithreaded software, which is becomming more and more common as time goes by. Those pieces of software have a wide range of possible performance gains, with games like Quake 4 showing near 100% performance gains in cpu bound scenarios.

The bottom line: With a dual core, you do not have to wait on your pc to finish some long boring task just to open up a game(or another demanding application), while with a single core, you have to wait, and wait, and wait for whatever you are doing to finish before you run another demanding application.
 
Originally posted by: dguy6789
X2 easily.


Anyone can run sandra and see that their cpu scores higher or whatever, but there will be no tangible difference in real world use in one task between a 2Ghz X2 and a 2.6Ghz 64.

However, ponder these scenarios:

You are burning a cd or dvd and want to play game at the same time. It would be near impossible on a single core cpu, and if you do manage to get it to work, one of the two programs would run extremely slow. With a dual core, both programs will run at full speed completely independant of one another, as well as if you were running two separate programs on two separate machines.

Suppose you were transferring large files over a network. If you wanted to play a game at the same time, the transfer would be bogged and slow down like crazy on a single core. On a dual core, whether you play the game or not, the transfer will still be going at normal speed.

Your antivirus has not been run in a few weeks. It keeps popping up and wanting you to run a complete scan. With a single core, you can only do very light tasks while scanning antivirus. With a dual core, you can go ahead and do the most intensive tasks your computer can do while scanning for viruses without issue.

Then there is the benefit of multithreaded software, which is becomming more and more common as time goes by. Those pieces of software have a wide range of possible performance gains, with games like Quake 4 showing near 100% performance gains in cpu bound scenarios.

The bottom line: With a dual core, you do not have to wait on your pc to finish some long boring task just to open up a game(or another demanding application), while with a single core, you have to wait, and wait, and wait for whatever you are doing to finish before you run another demanding application.

Haha, sold on the X2 solely for the fact that I can run the A/V scanner on a seperate core, lol. Looks like it's not going to be worth upgrading for awhile though, since I already have a 2ghz single-core a64. Hopefully Gateway will be on the ball and release an X2 version of the 7405gx 😉
 
Originally posted by: meatfestival
X2.

I've yet to see any game benchmarks that show any need for having a faster CPU than 2.2ghz.

According to benchmarks, clockspeed doesn't influence much at all, unless of course, you're comparing an Intel Pentium I with a Core Duo. Yet, in Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, the recommended system configuration is 3.0GHz... would that be Intel or AMD? From my point of view, clockspeed doesn't show much, especially when it turns out a 2GHz Athlon 64 turns out to be faster than that of a 2.4GHz Pentium 4.
 
Originally posted by: Shadow Conception
in Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, the recommended system configuration is 3.0GHz... would that be Intel or AMD?

They mean intel. There aren't yet any AMD CPUs that run at 3ghz stock.
 
Originally posted by: meatfestival
Originally posted by: Shadow Conception
in Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, the recommended system configuration is 3.0GHz... would that be Intel or AMD?

They mean intel. There aren't yet any AMD CPUs that run at 3ghz stock.

Only if you overclock 😉 The AMD designations also equate to Pentium clockspeeds...for example, my 2ghz 3200+ a64 proc is roughly equivalent to a 3.2ghz Pentium 4. Since I can run two 720p movie trailers at max res at the same time, I'm not complaining 😀
 
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