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Blanky said:
It's now plausible that Trump will win the presidency. I personally will relish and bathe in the tears of hillary clinton if it happens. I have already given $5M to her campaign with a contractual agreement that if they lose all of the tears she sheds on election night will be bottled and sent to me. I am also buying stock in linen companies because the number of towels sold to wipe away the tears of the left will make me very rich.
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She's probably going to be in prison on election night. 🙂

-John
 
Zorkorist said:
She's probably going to be in prison on election night. 🙂

-John
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They call him teflon don but he hasn't clearly committed crimes, yet remains un-arrested. I am not holding out hope for a hillary indictment and I recommend nobody else does, either. She doesn't play by the rules that govern the rest of us.
 
chucky2 said:
Didn't he already say in another thread (that probably all the people in this thread have read) that he's in top 5% of income bracket? Even if he hadn't, really, anyone with a decent job has "employer subsidized" HC. I "" it because it's really just your employer not paying you that amount and instead paying for your HC, so really, those of us who have it are paying for it ourselves. Why would the assumption automagically be he's on the Gov teat? Answer: Because the (wrong) ego stroke was needed. Anyways...
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I said in some other thread that I'm in the top 1% income bracket. At least, I'm sure I did.

Either way, of course it's accurate.
 
ivwshane said:
Ah, so your employer subsidizes your plan. Makes sense. Can you explain to us how you know that your employers costs increased instead of your share of the costs increasing or both?
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Because it's on every pay stub how much they contribute to the plan and how much I pay. It's gone up double digit % points every year since ACA and I haven't changed my plan until this year to a cheaper option. Still 8% more than the Family plan I had last year. WTF, when will the insanity end. We aren't fucking cash registers obama and blue cross.
 
And what's pitiful, is that the service isn't increasing, it's decreasing.

These fucks are charging you more for less service.

-John
 
DrPizza said:
I'm still holding out for Trump doing this to troll the entire Republican party. Anyyyyy day now, he's going to announce that he did all of this as a stunt to prove how evil and horrible the people who voted for what he said are. He'll denounce the KKK, and he'll denounce most of the stuff he has said. Anyyyy day now. (Then he'll point out how awesome he is for pulling off such a stunt.) Heck, even Bill Clinton said he wished he had been the one to think of having Trump run for office.
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He denounced the KKK as early as 1991. Where the hell have you been?
Duke ran for governor of Louisiana in 1991 as a Republican, and Trump said at the time that President George H.W. Bush was right “to come out against” Duke’s campaign. Duke lost but he won a majority of the white vote — which Trump found troubling. “I hate seeing what it represents,” Trump said, referring to what he called the “anger vote.”
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He's also denounced DD 4 times in the past 4 days. Just because he was sleep deprived or had a brainfart (who knows) doesn't mean he's for them. He has never been for the KKK/DD.
 
SP33Demon said:
Because it's on every pay stub how much they contribute to the plan and how much I pay. It's gone up double digit % points every year since ACA and I haven't changed my plan until this year to a cheaper option. Still 8% more than the Family plan I had last year. WTF, when will the insanity end. We aren't fucking cash registers obama and blue cross.
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And it did not before ACA or you haven't been in the work force before ACA? Because mine have gone up every year since we started having to *gasp* CONTRIBUTE to our health care. It used to be a free perk. This started during the begining of Bush 2's term...
 
zinfamous said:
I said in some other thread that I'm in the top 1% income bracket. At least, I'm sure I did.

Either way, of course it's accurate.
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It's 5-8% depending on which website you are looking at (Median household income). Yes we are comfortable and yes we have rental income as well. It could be because I'm smart with my finances and didn't spend a lot on a house (under 300K for 4 bedrooms with acreage) in the DC Metro area. Commute is 20 something minutes. Beat that. :biggrin:
 
umbrella39 said:
And it did not before ACA or you haven't been in the work force before ACA? Because mine have gone up every year since we started having to *gasp* CONTRIBUTE to our health care. It used to be a free perk. This started during the begining of Bush 2's term...
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No, it went up back then. Of course I was with a different employer so not apples to apples, but it would go up around 5% for the same plan. Not an 8% jump switching from Family to a lesser plan. I've never seen anything like it, and our insurance pool is huge so it's not the company but the provider BCBS and ACA.
 
SP33Demon said:
No, it went up back then. Of course I was with a different employer so not apples to apples, but it would go up around 5% for the same plan. Not an 8% jump switching from Family to a lesser plan. I've never seen anything like it, and our insurance pool is huge so it's not the company but the provider BCBS and ACA.
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And you know this because?
 
Just imagine if you were an 18 year old, getting out of high-school, ready to take on the world...

No, sorry, you owe me $x per month in health insurance.

-John
 
Fuck you, Government. Fuck you, Socialized Medicine.

Get the fuck out of my way.

-John

Over the line.

Perknose
Forum Director
 
ivwshane said:
And you know this because?
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Because I know what the rates were before and after ACA. And I'm sick of paying higher premiums every year which eats into my raises/bonuses. I know it's not my employer either, they are pretty large and rich and their policy hasn't changed. It's fucking Blue Cross milking me, and they never did this until ACA hit.

I may be well off but I'm cheap too. I look at each pay stub to make sure there aren't errors.

Just read this:
What’s more is that premiums are expected to continue increasing through 2017 and beyond. That’s when the Affordable Care Act’s two central cost-concealing provisions—and the associated taxpayer handouts—will expire.

The first is called “re-insurance,” which uses taxpayer dollars to subsidize the highest-cost patients. The second is “risk corridors,” through which insurers are compensated for higher-than-anticipated costs—like they experienced in 2014 and 2015. Once these programs expire, the lost revenue will have to be replaced—and it will come directly in the form of higher premiums. Dr. Stephen Parente of the Carlson School of Management at the University of Minnesota has estimated what families and individuals can expect to pay.

Using a health insurance simulation model funded in part by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Dr. Parente estimates the expiration of these programs will cause average premiums for middle-of-the-road silver plans to jump another 12.1% and 9.2% for individual and family policies, respectively, in 2017. And the years after that will only see further hikes.
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspi...he-rise-but-dont-blame-insurers/#3a44cfc28d5e

More pain to come.
 
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Your children's children, are so expensive, that they are immediately aborted.

Only special children survive.

-John
 
SP33Demon said:
Because I know what the rates were before and after ACA. And I'm sick of paying higher premiums every year which eats into my raises/bonuses. I know it's not my employer either, they are pretty large and rich and their policy hasn't changed. It's fucking Blue Cross milking me, and they never did this until ACA hit.

I may be well off but I'm cheap too. I look at each pay stub to make sure there aren't errors.

Just read this:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspi...he-rise-but-dont-blame-insurers/#3a44cfc28d5e

More pain to come.
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So again you know this is due to the ACA how? My guess is that you are either lying about your premium increases or have a very selective memory as to how your employer's health care costs went up in the past as health care cost inflation has been much lower than average since the ACA was passed.
 
eskimospy said:
So again you know this is due to the ACA how? My guess is that you are either lying about your premium increases or have a very selective memory as to how your employer's health care costs went up in the past as health care cost inflation has been much lower than average since the ACA was passed.
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Uhhh, it's 100% due to ACA and BCBS admitted to it. They are eating a 900 million dollar loss because of it.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2465817
 
feralkid said:
You can't be serious.

BCBS blaming their greed on the ACA; you swallow it hook, line and sinker.

Typical.
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Oh look, you bought a new tinfoil hat. Conspiracy! lol. The fact is that all the freeloaders are going to cost these companies more than they can afford and more than the government can pay them to cover it. It sucks, but at least I know why it went up. Studies have shown that we would be paying less if ACA hadn't been implemented. I know it's captain obvious, but it should be stated that we can still chop the limbs off this POS legislation. Tired of paying for other people's free shit. Go out and get a job lazy fucks. We are turning into Europe which is in an economic crisis.
 
SP33Demon said:
Oh look, you bought a new tinfoil hat. Conspiracy! lol. The fact is that all the freeloaders are going to cost these companies more than they can afford and more than the government can pay them to cover it. It sucks, but at least I know why it went up. Studies have shown that we would be paying less if ACA hadn't been implemented. I know it's captain obvious, but it should be stated that we can still chop the limbs off this POS legislation. Tired of paying for other people's free shit. Go out and get a job lazy fucks. We are turning into Europe which is in an economic crisis.
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Your reasoning skills and grasp of reality are a catastrophe!

A disaster!


You're fired!
 
SP33Demon said:
Uhhh, it's 100% due to ACA and BCBS admitted to it. They are eating a 900 million dollar loss because of it.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2465817
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That article is about exchange plans, not employer provided plans. Are you claiming that they are increasing the rates on their other plans to uncompetitive levels in order to make up for losses elsewhere? If so, what is your basis for this? Why don't you switch to another insurer that hasn't had those issues?

Or maybe you're clueless.
 
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