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Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: randomlinh
maybe i should have re-worded my post to say: what do you all do for backup for all this data? Sure, raid 5 protects if a drive fails.. but is that all you're worried about? what if the rebuild fails, or if you needed something you accidently deleted (don't go all high and might saying you never delete something by accident either, it's just a senario)?

Really just curious. I think RAID5 would be probably enough in all likelihood, but it's much too expensive to get a hardware raid 5 controller.. the one my friend had.. was slow as balls in writing.. something like 10MB/s 🙁
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I don't backup the array. For the price of the backup hardware, I could triple the capacity of my array. I do take some precautions to protect the data. Any user can write files to the array, but every morning at 3am, a cron job sets security so only the root user can modify the files. This prevents a virus or whatever from doing too much damage. This sounds restrictive, and it is, but considering the array holds video files and backups, not files that are often changed, its not a problem.

As far as deleting something accidentally, on this array, it probably wouldn't happen. Generally, a file is copied to the array, renamed, security applied, and then its just read. On my Windows servers, I use Volume Shadow Copy for that situation, plus those servers get backed up to the big server weekly.

Speed isn't an issue, really. I ran some bonnie++ benchmarks when I first assembled the arrays and got about 50mb/sec writes and over 100mb/sec reads. Hardware RAID controllers can be fast... the 7506/8506 and better 3ware cards are good, as are the Areca line of SATA raid cards.
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the speed comment was merely something my buddy did.. but he was using some hardware scsi raid controller w/ IDE convertors or some weird sh!t. I just tend to be overly paranoid w/ my data.. heh

 
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: Genx87
Very nice, what case is that?
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Its a CM Stacker with drive bays from CalPCSystems. They're really cheap. In the next upgrade, I'm replacing the drive bay things with hotsway bays...
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Thanks, I have been meaning to upgrade my file server with an 8 disc SATA raid 5 array, 7 disks with a hot spare, but my case isnt terrible suitable for a lot of disks. Ill checkout the people who make the drive bays becuase my case is a server case. Maybe they have bays that will work in it.

 
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: Genx87
Very nice, what case is that?
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Its a CM Stacker with drive bays from CalPCSystems. They're really cheap. In the next upgrade, I'm replacing the drive bay things with hotsway bays...
Click to expand...

Thanks, I have been meaning to upgrade my file server with an 8 disc SATA raid 5 array, 7 disks with a hot spare, but my case isnt terrible suitable for a lot of disks. Ill checkout the people who make the drive bays becuase my case is a server case. Maybe they have bays that will work in it.
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Those drive bays should work in any case, for the most part. The larger ones fit 5 drives in 3 5.25" bays and the smaller ones fit 3 drives in 2 5.25" bays, so as long as you have those, you're good. They're not specific to the Stacker or anything... they fit well in my Lian-Li case, too.
 
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: Genx87
Very nice, what case is that?
Click to expand...

Its a CM Stacker with drive bays from CalPCSystems. They're really cheap. In the next upgrade, I'm replacing the drive bay things with hotsway bays...
Click to expand...

Thanks, I have been meaning to upgrade my file server with an 8 disc SATA raid 5 array, 7 disks with a hot spare, but my case isnt terrible suitable for a lot of disks. Ill checkout the people who make the drive bays becuase my case is a server case. Maybe they have bays that will work in it.
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Those drive bays should work in any case, for the most part. The larger ones fit 5 drives in 3 5.25" bays and the smaller ones fit 3 drives in 2 5.25" bays, so as long as you have those, you're good. They're not specific to the Stacker or anything... they fit well in my Lian-Li case, too.
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Cool, it appears on their site these bays are cooled. They also appear to only have IDE versions but it appears your bays allow for the back of the disk to be exposed. I must be missing something in their catalog or they only ship bays with an enclosed drive?
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: Genx87
Very nice, what case is that?
Click to expand...

Its a CM Stacker with drive bays from CalPCSystems. They're really cheap. In the next upgrade, I'm replacing the drive bay things with hotsway bays...
Click to expand...

Thanks, I have been meaning to upgrade my file server with an 8 disc SATA raid 5 array, 7 disks with a hot spare, but my case isnt terrible suitable for a lot of disks. Ill checkout the people who make the drive bays becuase my case is a server case. Maybe they have bays that will work in it.
Click to expand...

Those drive bays should work in any case, for the most part. The larger ones fit 5 drives in 3 5.25" bays and the smaller ones fit 3 drives in 2 5.25" bays, so as long as you have those, you're good. They're not specific to the Stacker or anything... they fit well in my Lian-Li case, too.
Click to expand...

Cool, it appears on their site these bays are cooled. They also appear to only have IDE versions but it appears your bays allow for the back of the disk to be exposed. I must be missing something in their catalog or they only ship bays with an enclosed drive?
Click to expand...

The bays I have will work with any type of drive. The back of the drive is exposed. The bays are cooled - there's an 80mm fan in the front.

3 in 5 cooler
Other baycoolers
 
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: Genx87
Very nice, what case is that?
Click to expand...

Its a CM Stacker with drive bays from CalPCSystems. They're really cheap. In the next upgrade, I'm replacing the drive bay things with hotsway bays...
Click to expand...

Thanks, I have been meaning to upgrade my file server with an 8 disc SATA raid 5 array, 7 disks with a hot spare, but my case isnt terrible suitable for a lot of disks. Ill checkout the people who make the drive bays becuase my case is a server case. Maybe they have bays that will work in it.
Click to expand...

Those drive bays should work in any case, for the most part. The larger ones fit 5 drives in 3 5.25" bays and the smaller ones fit 3 drives in 2 5.25" bays, so as long as you have those, you're good. They're not specific to the Stacker or anything... they fit well in my Lian-Li case, too.
Click to expand...

Cool, it appears on their site these bays are cooled. They also appear to only have IDE versions but it appears your bays allow for the back of the disk to be exposed. I must be missing something in their catalog or they only ship bays with an enclosed drive?
Click to expand...

The bays I have will work with any time of drive. The back of the drive is exposed. The bays are cooled - there's an 80mm fan in the front.

3 in 5 coller
Other baycoolers
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heh I even looked at that page but didnt scroll down 😉



 
Originally posted by: EatSpam

The bays I have will work with any type of drive. The back of the drive is exposed. The bays are cooled - there's an 80mm fan in the front.

3 in 5 cooler
Other baycoolers
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That is awesome. I have one that takes two 5.25 and lets you use 3 HD's.. this is a lot better and the same price. The only gripe I see is it using an 80mm by default.. i'd have to up that to 92 or 120 if i could squeeze it in 🙂

Actually, does anyone have any suggestions for an "affordable" RAID5 solution? Ideally, it'd be easy to manage and expand. I really want to just start having my media on file.. and slap a mac mini (or if something cheaper coudl stream media...) to a tv and be done with it.. heh.
 
I didn't read through all 7 pages, so don't know if anyone mentioned this already..but with that many hard drives, and this being your main rig..you might want to replace that PSU with a quality name brand, 20A on the 12v rail isn't very much.
 
Wow, there are some nice systems in this thread.

I really need to dump my IDE drives & get more SATAs, if only for the lovely small cables.
 
I though about that poor PSU also.

My XServe Raid at work has 14 250GB Drives. That's 2 1.5 TB RAID5 arrays!!

I bought that thing last year, and we're already worried about space!! Time to buy the 500's.
 
Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
Originally posted by: judasmachine
Round Cables....................
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you have no idea how horrible round cables are to manage compared to standard ide. standard can be twisted and manipulated in any way and any space and still work fine. thats more than i can say about my dfi rounded cables. i threw them all out and took some standard ide cables from my old AT computer
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amen to that. rounded cables are impossible to fold and move around. The standard flat cable can be easily folded and hidden.

1TB is way too much storage for me. Im barely struggling to fill a 160GB drive. I have less than 50 GB used..
 
Originally posted by: mindwreck
Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
Originally posted by: judasmachine
Round Cables....................
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you have no idea how horrible round cables are to manage compared to standard ide. standard can be twisted and manipulated in any way and any space and still work fine. thats more than i can say about my dfi rounded cables. i threw them all out and took some standard ide cables from my old AT computer
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amen to that. rounded cables are impossible to fold and move around. The standard flat cable can be easily folded and hidden.

1TB is way too much storage for me. Im barely struggling to fill a 160GB drive. I have less than 50 GB used..
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Yeah I actually noticed that too when I started working with small OEM systems that had those things folded every which way. But my rounded ones are okay.

 
GOD why must people always burst other people's bubbles. Some of you guys just need to crawl in some dark corner and die.

Anyhow shawn, GJ! I personally dont need that much space, i just burn crap on DVD's if i know its going into storage.

Also, SATA drives arent that much more expensive then PATA drives. theres probably at most a 10 dollar difference, but the smaller cable allows your case to look more "CLEAN"
 
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