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1ghz Celeron v. 1ghz PIII

shiner

shiner

Lifer
Need some people's opinion.

My Dad is wanting to upgrade his PC and currently has a Celeron 633 on an Abit SE6 w/256mb RAM. He asked me what cpu he should upgrade to and I told him a PIII 1ghz but he seems to think he can get by with a 1ghz Celery. He's not a big time gamer but he does dive into firt person shooters from time to time. He actually spends most of his time doing Office type stuff or genealogy. My point is that he might as well get the beefiest cpu he can right now but he seems to be resistant. Opinions? Pros & Cons of each approach?

Thanks
 
If he can afford it go for the PIII it will be faster (about 15-20% with 133FSB if memory serves)& therefore be useful for longer.Not only bigger L2 cache but the cache has greater bandwidth with the cpu.If the PIII is a 133FSB version that will give it even a bigger advantage
Having said that the 1GHz Celeron will be fast enough for current games

Only con of the PIII is cost
Hope that helps a little🙂
 
ofcourse PIII is the better of the two. but it is costlier too. why dont ya try out the AMD Duron/Athlon. its better and cheaper. the motherboard which is recommended for Duron/Athlon will let ya share 64mb ram for graphics. so ya pops happy and the graphics are excellent.

ron.
 
I have an Athlon XP 1800+ and love it.....he just wants to stick with the MB he currently has an just upgrade the CPU. Looks like PIII is the way to go...
 
Seems to be a big anti-celeron bias in some peoples minds...
It's true that the ghz pIII will be around 20% faster than the ghz celly...but guess what: you won't notice the difference. Especially your dad. From the seat of your pants they'll both seem pretty quick. Save some dough and get the celly, that's what I say.
 

Celeron...no question.

For what your Dad is using the PC for, a 1 ghz celeron is more than enough...plus, it costs about half as much as a PIII...both are good chips though.

I run a 1 ghz celeron in a test machine (Abit BE6-II mobo, 256 mb ram, Viper Ultra 770 AGP, W2K), and have it running at almost 1.2 ghz...plays UT, Max Payne, office apps fine.

My $.02

SlickVic
 
shinerburke
Just remember because the PIII is faster it will have a longer 'useful life' ,how long is he planning on keeping it?
Either way if he doesn't really want to spend the extra $'s then just go for the Celeron.

railer
Seems to be a big anti-celeron bias in some peoples minds...

I don't see it in this thread yet!😛
 
You did not say if he has PC100 or PC133 memory in it.

If he has PC100 memory - Celeron, period, end of story. The reason is that most of the PIII-1GHz processors that are left, run at a front side bus speed of 133MHz. If you picked up one of these, you'd have to buy new memory too.

If he has PC133 memory, I'd still pick the Celeron because of cost. The Celeron will overclock nicely, so you can squeeze some more Hz out of it with that Abit board. I had a Celeron 566@850 and switch to a PIII700@933. I can tell you I did not see a big differance. To me it was not worth the money I spent changing from a Celeron to a little faster PIII.
 
Celeron 1GHz -- $59 (pricewatch, ignoring shipping)
PIII 1GHz -- $114 (pricewatch, ignoring shipping)

Duron 1GHz -- $39 (pricewatch, ignoring shipping)
Athlon 1GHz -- $71 (pricewatch, ignoring shipping)
ECS K7S5A Motherboard -- $49.95 (Outpost.com, ignoring shipping)

Get a Celeron or get a new motherboard and an Athlon or Duron.
 
i agree with FPS guy. there is no point in getting the Pentium III when Athlons/Durons and mobo's are so cheap. i would probably go with the celeron, though.

--jacob
 
Another vote for the celeron as your choice. Will definately meet his needs for now and some time to come, easier upgrade than swapping to an AMD setup not to mention his OS may or may not take a dump on the new AMD hardware, and a better overclocker (if your into that) that could very well meet or exceed the performance of the P3 at half the price.
 
Celeron is the best choice for the money. However, there is one more option that is even cheaper. The P3 is superior with it's 8-way associative L2 cache with 256k vs the Celerons 128k. The biggest performance boost for the P3 is the 133MHz fsb vs the 100MHz fsb. Since the computer has PC-133 might as well use it. Buy a Celeron 800 and put it on a 133MHz fsb for 1066MHz. A decent heatsink/fan and a boost in core voltage to 1.80-185v is all that is needed. The 800 hits a 133MHz fsb almost guaranteed, just like the famous 566 Celeron can hit a 100MHz fsb for 850MHz. Cheaper and faster than the Celeron 1GHz, 1066MHz is easy for this cpu and it will still run cool and reliable.
 
I have read that the Celeron 700 (66MHz bus) can easily be set to operate at 1050MHz by running it on a 100MHz bus. It should be the cheapest option of all. I haven't tried this so I can't vouch for whether it will work, but from what I read it seems like something worth trying.
 
From what i hear, the Tualatin Celerons ARE pentiumIIIs. They have the exact same specifications, only they are called celerons instead of Pentium IIIs.

256Kbyte, 16 way associative L2 cache
 


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wow sh!t nice oc you got there. You beat my successful P3 1000E OC. Congrats.. 😕

To ya: There's no comparison between a P3(whether it's 133fsb or not) and the Celermine, period. A P3 with 100fsb performs about equal to a Celermine with 150- 200mhz higher on the clock speed. A P3 w/133fsb.. imagine it.
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Interesting idea on the OC....hadn't even thought of that. Here's another question for you. A guy I work with has a Celeron 733mhz chip that he said he would give me for helping him with a PC problem he had a few weeks back. He recently bought a whole new system and so he has this chip just sitting there collecting dust. What's teh highest OC I could expect to get out of it with a stock Intel heatsink(since that's what is currenlty on my Dad's CPU)? What kind of FSB and voltage settings would be recommended.

Thanks for all the info guys....this has been very helpful.

BTW....I'm not an overclocker at all but with a free chip to put in my Dad's system.....what the hell.....I'll give it a try.
 
I'm surprised nobody mentioned this already, but most 1Ghz P3's run at 133mhz FSB which will put the AGP at 89mhz on a BX board. Not all video cards will run at 89mhz.

My vote is for the Celeron. On our family box we have a C2 566@850mhz and it runs most games like UT just fine. Save your upgrade money for later is my vote.

Ed

EDIT: Nevermind I did not notice the board was SE6, my bad.
 
<< What's the highest OC I could expect to get out of it with a stock Intel heatsink >>

According to the Overclockers.com CPU Database, the average overclock for a 733 Celeron is 1068. The only entry in the database with a retail HS/F is from someone who claims to have hit 1100 using vcore of 1.90.
 
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