1A Audits

blackangst1

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What do you guys think of 1st Amendment audits? I personally love them, but only certain auditors. There are quite a few a@@hole auditors, but quite a few good ones too. I agree with one of the auditors (Jason from Amagansett Press) that says rights are like muscles...if you dont use them, they go away. People nowadays get so offended by the littlest things, as evidenced by all the "Karen" videos. But unfortunately, many Americans are oblivious to our rights. IMHO the right auditor can spread alot of information.

My favorite auditors are Amagansett Press (and Jason's son Ben - Watching the Watchmen), Audit the Audit, San Juaquine auditors, and Sean at Long Island Press (my favorite). Sean generally has a good relationship with police, and has videos of him speaking at police departments for education.

(edit: if this is better served in P&N please move it).
 
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crashtech

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The Left used to be reliable supporters of the 1st Amendment, but not so much anymore. A lot of people make the assertion now that speech is violence, that view is incompatible with a free speech guarantee.
 
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blackangst1

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The Left used to be reliable supporters of the 1st Amendment, but not so much anymore. A lot of people make the assertion now that speech is violence, that view is incompatible with a free speech guarantee.

Theres more to the 1st than free speech....thats one of 5 protected things....
 
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MrSquished

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The Left used to be reliable supporters of the 1st Amendment, but not so much anymore. A lot of people make the assertion now that speech is violence, that view is incompatible with a free speech guarantee.
I mean maybe I'm just naive or sensitive but this whole overthrowing democracy thing seems to be leaning towards dangerous/ violent speech. I mean maybe it's just democracy is overrated.
 

blackangst1

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For clarification...1A audits have nothing to do with free speech. Theyre about freedom of the press. If you arent sure, you shouldnt comment. See youtube if youre not sure.
 
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nakedfrog

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Are you aware that if I search "1A audits" on YouTube, I may not get the same results as you since we most likely have different data points the algorithm will use for recommendations?

I guess it's moot, because if it's all YouTube videos, I'm not going to watch any of them. I'll read an article happily.
 

JD50

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Are you aware that if I search "1A audits" on YouTube, I may not get the same results as you since we most likely have different data points the algorithm will use for recommendations?

I guess it's moot, because if it's all YouTube videos, I'm not going to watch any of them. I'll read an article happily.

I'll save you the trouble, it's just some really obnoxious people giving the cops a hard time and filming it, 9 times out of 10 for no real reason.
 

cytg111

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I'll save you the trouble, it's just some really obnoxious people giving the cops a hard time and filming it, 9 times out of 10 for no real reason.
Oh its those.
I mean. They annoy the hell out of me as well… But it may be a corner case where the system works, cause free press is making youtube money holding law enforcement accountable… Of course those that just tries to paint cops in worst possible way is probably not doing society any favors../
 

blackangst1

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Are you aware that I was responding to another poster? Please see YouTube for how to use forums and then get back to me
Yes I am. But you mentioned "this whole overthrowing democracy thing seems to be leaning towards dangerous/ violent speech.". 1A audits have nothing to do with free speech so your point is irrelevant.
 
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blackangst1

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Oh its those.
I mean. They annoy the hell out of me as well… But it may be a corner case where the system works, cause free press is making youtube money holding law enforcement accountable… Of course those that just tries to paint cops in worst possible way is probably not doing society any favors../

Yeah. Alternatively, we should not be exposing police who dont know the law. amirite?
 

Zorba

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I'll save you the trouble, it's just some really obnoxious people giving the cops a hard time and filming it, 9 times out of 10 for no real reason.
A lot of them are assholes and some are wrong on their rights. But I think they serve a real purpose. Photography isn't a crime. Walking in public right of way isn't a crime. Cops should get a hard time when they are blatantly violating people's rights.

As for the OP, I used to watch them quite a bit until my favorite couple channels posted video from 1/6. I immediately unsubscribed and blocked them.

A lot of them also started doing second amendment audits which I found much more annoying.

Really, my favorites are when they are annoying corporations. I've worked at many corps that think they own everything in eyesight and anyone looking at their property is a terrorist/spy
 

MrSquished

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Yes I am. But you mentioned "this whole overthrowing democracy thing seems to be leaning towards dangerous/ violent speech.". 1A audits have nothing to do with free speech so your point is irrelevant.

Man you still don't know how to use forums. You didn't go to YouTube university to learn how to use a forum? Bigly sad.

So this other person posted a point, and see that little box I posted with their name and their quote inside? It's a quote box. I was responding to them.

Typical conservative, deny basic and obvious reality.
 

PowerEngineer

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For clarification...1A audits have nothing to do with free speech. Theyre about freedom of the press. If you arent sure, you shouldnt comment. See youtube if youre not sure.

Well, in all fairness your posts have done little to educate us about what "1A audits" actually are. As no one could be sure on the basis of your original post then I guess we should have just locked this thread to prevent any comments.
 

Moonbeam

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What I want to know is if I apply for a conceal carry permit in the California city in which I live, will the local sherif be a deny me in light of the recent Supreme Court decision. Should I or should I not do a 2nd amendment check? That is more on my mind than 1st related matters.
 

nickqt

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The ultimate audit would be every citizen having a camera pointed towards what they see that they can turn on and off at will, uploaded to a cloud and accessible so that all interactions with "authority" can be recorded for "quality assurance purposes".

That's how you watch the watchers and reverse 1984's Big Brother control, as now all authority is being watched at all times.

All of that said, it would end up being misused by whatever organization manufacturers the cameras and controls the cloud where recordings go, so probably not going to happen.

You can use your phone and cloud though and if a trusted third party has access to those recordings in case of conflict, is a way to "audit" the government.

I definitely support holding hierarchy accountable, as not doing so is the how and why the entire world is where it is.
 
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Paratus

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I’ve occasionally watched Audit the Audit on YT where the guy evaluates the behavior of the “auditor” (really the person interacting with the police), and the police officer.

Sometimes it’s pretty eye opening with good and / or bad behavior on both sides.
 

Lezunto

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I remain perplexed by news people who knowingly proffer untruths or speak on their own suppositions or opinions when little is known about a given situation.

But we in the U.S. live in a country where you can say practically anything you want as long as it’s not threatening to someone (supposedly). If you’re writer, it probably would not pay to viciously libel someone.

But folks do it all the time. What is the solution? Well, for news, check a few different sources. Or one can do their own fact checking.
 

blackangst1

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I remain perplexed by news people who knowingly proffer untruths or speak on their own suppositions or opinions when little is known about a given situation.

But we in the U.S. live in a country where you can say practically anything you want as long as it’s not threatening to someone (supposedly). If you’re writer, it probably would not pay to viciously libel someone.

But folks do it all the time. What is the solution? Well, for news, check a few different sources. Or one can do their own fact checking.
What does this have to do with 1A audits?
 

blackangst1

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Well, in all fairness your posts have done little to educate us about what "1A audits" actually are. As no one could be sure on the basis of your original post then I guess we should have just locked this thread to prevent any comments.
Or, alternatively, if you dont know, dont comment. Novel idea.
 
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blackangst1

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I’ve occasionally watched Audit the Audit on YT where the guy evaluates the behavior of the “auditor” (really the person interacting with the police), and the police officer.

Sometimes it’s pretty eye opening with good and / or bad behavior on both sides.

I agree. Many say auditors paint LEO in a bad light...which is false. They do that on their own. Most times the auditor attempts to educate LEO, and many times LEO says something like I dont care, However, when LEO does do the right thing, and know the law, they are highlighted as such.