Question 1950X or 9900K? Accounting Office Use/Conference Meetings

[drbrock]

Building a New comp. Currently have a surface book 1 with an i5 and it is an utter piece of crap that gets bogged down with even a zoom meeting. I hear the fans spinning up as soon as the video turns on. Even chrome is starting to fail. I thought the it was a ram issue but the CPU is what is getting maxed out.

Going to go all in for a mini itx board with a lian li oddysey case.

I am torn between the threadripper and the 9900k. I rarely do gaming as I work way too much. So think microsoft office, quickbooks, OBS studio for making videos occasionally. I do have a billion different tabs and programs open at the same time. So I will probably pair the cpu with a 1070 or 1080. I have a 1070 now that works well in another build. Maybe even do a vega?

Will the clock speed of the threadripper be underwhelming vs the 5.0 of 9900k? My plan was to run all of the 9900k cores at 5.0.

I am a red team guy so if I am getting the same performance out of the cpus I will most likely go with AMD.

Here is the general build so far.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b8LCnH

 

[Topweasel]

Some mixed history in here.

Threadripper had no issues with more than 16GB.
Ryzen 2k had no issues with high clocked memory. Or memory in general.
What all of them didn't really get along with is Dual ranked dimms and TR1/ Ryzen 1k suffered from some sensitivity to manufacturer, speed, and rank. Even after bios updates fixed a lot of issues Dual ranked sticks tended to struggle a bit to get to max clocks. My 3200 Sticks (16GB each) have to run at 3000 instead of 3200 (though I haven't updated the Bios since I was able to hit 3000, so maybe 3200 would be reachable now).
A TR 1 had little issue hitting advertised memory speeds on 32GB of 8GB slots using one single rank stick per channel.

 

[AnnoyedGrunt]

I did a mini-itx build using an ASRock B450, 2700x CPU, and 16GB of 3200 RAM. Noctua nhu14 in a Meshify-C mini case. EVGA 2080 video card. Works very well for my use case. Should be able to upgrade to a Ryzen3XXX series CPU at some point if it makes sense. I know the setup isn’t as fast in gaming as the high end intel stuff but I like the value and the potential upgrade path

-AG

 

[AnnoyedGrunt]

A thread ripper or 9900k build would be faster for sure, but quite a bit more expensive as well. The threadripper probably has more upgrade potential, so that might be an interesting option.

-AG

 

[Arkaign]

ITX do not consider either of those lol. It's just not a good idea.

2700X + very fast nvme and plenty of ram and you're good. Putting the savings into a faster SSD will pay off here.

9900 is fast for gaming, but will have power/thermal issues in such a case. As this is an office/productivity scenario, Ryzen is boss here.

Then look at 3000 series next year.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Are you sure that problem that you're talking about is not limited to a few boards?

Basically, no. It's more the IMC than anything else. If you want memory speeds above DDR4-2933, 32GB is mostly out on AM4 unless you get juuuuust the right DIMMs. Even then DDR4-3200 is a struggle. Anything more than that requires herculean effort. With a 2700x, 16GB of DDR4-3600 is doable with a lot of different DIMMs, but 32GB? Nah. However, a 2950x should be able to achieve DDR4-3600 32GB with relative ease.

Sure, you can easily run 32GB on AM4 if you are willing to compromise on speed. With Threadripper, no such compromise is necessary.

 

[Markfw]

Basically, no. It's more the IMC than anything else. If you want memory speeds above DDR4-2933, 32GB is mostly out on AM4 unless you get juuuuust the right DIMMs. Even then DDR4-3200 is a struggle. Anything more than that requires herculean effort. With a 2700x, 16GB of DDR4-3600 is doable with a lot of different DIMMs, but 32GB? Nah. However, a 2950x should be able to achieve DDR4-3600 32GB with relative ease.

Sure, you can easily run 32GB on AM4 if you are willing to compromise on speed. With Threadripper, no such compromise is necessary.

On my 2990wx, I can not get more than 3066 out of the same memory that I can get 3466-3600 on my 2700x and 1800x. Its the gskill 3600 bdie, but it won't POST past that speed, Same with the 2970wx, 3066 is it.

 

[DrMrLordX]

On my 2990wx, I can not get more than 3066 out of the same memory that I can get 3466-3600 on my 2700x and 1800x. Its the gskill 3600 bdie, but it won't POST past that speed, Same with the 2970wx, 3066 is it.

Odd. I would not expect that.