Originally posted by: nullpointerus
Uh...the expression a man's man traditionally means an alpha male.
And, traditionally the alpha male gets all the females. Somehow I dont think a video card is gonna do it.
Originally posted by: nullpointerus
Uh...the expression a man's man traditionally means an alpha male.
No, in that case you would say something to the context of, "a man among men". By using the apostrophe in "man's" he is indicating ownership and the proceeding noun is the subject under that ownership or possesion. In this case, "man's man" was the phrase, showing that a man has possesion of another man.
If he were to say, "a man's card" then we could see that the card is under the possesion of a man, not the alpha card of a man.
Back to the topic, the advice just kinda went against the grain in this thread, and everyone here (except Crusader) sees this card as newer technology introduced prematurely. In truth, the 7900GT's in SLI could provide better results for cheaper. I'm just trying to save the OP some money while still getting the same, if not better results.
nitromullet
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Originally posted by: josh6079
Originally posted by: nullpointerus
Uh...the expression a man's man traditionally means an alpha male.
No, in that case you would say something to the context of, "a man among men". By using the apostrophe in "man's" he is indicating ownership and the proceeding noun is the subject under that ownership or possesion. In this case, "man's man" was the phrase, showing that a man has possesion of another man.
If he were to say, "a man's card" then we could see that the card is under the possesion of a man, not the alpha card of a man.
Back to the topic, the advice just kinda went against the grain in this thread, and everyone here (except Crusader) sees this card as newer technology introduced prematurely. In truth, the 7900GT's in SLI could provide better results for cheaper. I'm just trying to save the OP some money while still getting the same, if not better results.
http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/idioms/man%27s+man.html
The usage of the idiom "man's man" is about the only thing correct in Crusader's post, at least let him have that.
Originally posted by: nitromullet
Originally posted by: josh6079
Originally posted by: nullpointerus
Uh...the expression a man's man traditionally means an alpha male.
No, in that case you would say something to the context of, "a man among men". By using the apostrophe in "man's" he is indicating ownership and the proceeding noun is the subject under that ownership or possesion. In this case, "man's man" was the phrase, showing that a man has possesion of another man.
If he were to say, "a man's card" then we could see that the card is under the possesion of a man, not the alpha card of a man.
Back to the topic, the advice just kinda went against the grain in this thread, and everyone here (except Crusader) sees this card as newer technology introduced prematurely. In truth, the 7900GT's in SLI could provide better results for cheaper. I'm just trying to save the OP some money while still getting the same, if not better results.
http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/idioms/man%27s+man.html
The usage of the idiom "man's man" is about the only thing correct in Crusader's post, at least let him have that.
Holy S***!! Well, you learn something new everyday then. My bad. I never heard of it put like that. Sorry guys.
Where is the OP? Has he made a decision?
Oh really?
I'm going to call you out on this one troll.
This is not correct?
"If you run 16x12 or higher with AA/AF.. its going to be unmatched. "
Looks like we might find out tomorrow. Might want to keep your fat mouth shut for a bit
Hey, where you at now you little trick?
The only thing correct in my post? Care to tell me where the GX2 gets beat at high res with AA?
Run your mouth now punk.
I invite you to our fine Flaming thread. Please exit this thread as your posts have nothing to do with the original posters request. Thank you.
P.S. Link in sig
Many posts in this thread had little to do with the OPs request.
He called me out, I called him out. Theres a valid question in there for nitromullet to answer. One based on a response from him to me.
Its amusing how people can say snide remarks like that, saying "thats the only thing true" in my post and not have to own up to that sort of rudeness.
Im merely asking for clarification from his claim that when I said
"If you run 16x12 or higher with AA/AF.. its going to be unmatched. "
How that is untrue? Which is what nitromullet said when claiming my post was incorrect.
If you are going to talk the talk.. at least back it up.. dont attempt to smear my post simply because you either dont like A) me, or B) Nvidia.
The truth of the matter is the truth of the matter. And we can see who is still here ready to defend his point.
He called me out, I called him out. Theres a valid question in there for nitromullet to answer. One based on a response from him to me.
Its amusing how people can say snide remarks like that, saying "thats the only thing true" in my post and not have to own up to that sort of rudeness.
Im merely asking for clarification from his claim that when I said
"If you run 16x12 or higher with AA/AF.. its going to be unmatched. "
How that is untrue? Which is what nitromullet said when claiming my post was incorrect.
If you are going to talk the talk.. at least back it up.. dont attempt to smear my post simply because you either dont like A) me, or B) Nvidia.
The truth of the matter is the truth of the matter. And we can see who is still here ready to defend his point.
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Crossfire is not as mature as SLi although it has its advantages. Not only that but dual X1900XT means more noise (one stock cooler does 60dbs at load), more heat, more power.
Im not buying into DX10 hype. Even though Vista/longhorn/etc gets released at Q1 07 majority of the games will simply be DX9C. First DX10 games will basically be similiar to DX9C titles in most aspects. By the time DX10 games are in full transistion (probably within 2~3 years) , there will be refreshes of R600/G80. So i dont see whats wrong spending $$$ right now to play your games at a higher res AA/AF.
For those who worry about fan noise. Most reviewers were mentioning it was less noisey than the X1900XT. Guru3d claims it was around 42~43 dbs. Neoseekers claimed it was around 41dbs idle and 52 dbs at load (MAX dbs the card reached).
Im not buying into DX10 hype. Even though Vista/longhorn/etc gets released at Q1 07 majority of the games will simply be DX9C. First DX10 games will basically be similiar to DX9C titles in most aspects. By the time DX10 games are in full transistion (probably within 2~3 years) , there will be refreshes of R600/G80. So i dont see whats wrong spending $$$ right now to play your games at a higher res AA/AF.
For those who worry about fan noise. Most reviewers were mentioning it was less noisey than the X1900XT. Guru3d claims it was around 42~43 dbs. Neoseekers claimed it was around 41dbs idle and 52 dbs at load (MAX dbs the card reached).
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Well it's faster than the XTX so it's well above the XT.
http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2006q2/geforce-7950-gx2/index.x?pg=1
If you have the money go for it.
http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2006q2/geforce-7950-gx2/index.x?pg=1
If you have the money go for it.
Does anyone know if the Quad capabilities have improved much for those who have nF4 chipsets? Last I heard, a 7900GTX SLI/X1900XT Crossfire even beat it.
I will agree with you Cookie Monster, the X1900's stock coolers are very loud. I'm using it until my radiator gets here since it is better at cooling the GPU than the Zalman at load temps.
I'm glad that Nvidia has introduced a concept here that will get better on as time passes. I do wish though that they would do something with how their graphics look. I was fine speed wise with my 7800's, and no doubt that this does outperform a single X1900. I'm still waiting for someone to put posts up of it performing agains an ATI dual GPU setup. I've already seen how it does against other SLI options, but how come I haven't seen a Xfire comparison?
I will agree with you Cookie Monster, the X1900's stock coolers are very loud. I'm using it until my radiator gets here since it is better at cooling the GPU than the Zalman at load temps.
I'm glad that Nvidia has introduced a concept here that will get better on as time passes. I do wish though that they would do something with how their graphics look. I was fine speed wise with my 7800's, and no doubt that this does outperform a single X1900. I'm still waiting for someone to put posts up of it performing agains an ATI dual GPU setup. I've already seen how it does against other SLI options, but how come I haven't seen a Xfire comparison?
wouldn't it have been better if they the dual gpu on one card concept like how asus did for the dual 7800 gt.
That would save a lot of space.But then there'll be compatability issues,as it was only compatable with certain motherboards.
That would save a lot of space.But then there'll be compatability issues,as it was only compatable with certain motherboards.
Yup, and then kick out your mobo for an ATI one and grab a second X1900xt and get better image quality and perf
Weird though on those, it shows a 7900gtx besting xtx in nearly every bench I saw including 3dmark, and oblivion
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5150Joker
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It's STILL the same old boring 6800 architecture with a few small additions...yawn. Come on nVidia, give us something new for once, not the same old crap we've seen since the 6800 days.
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Originally posted by: Crusader
Oh really?
I'm going to call you out on this one troll.
This is not correct?
"If you run 16x12 or higher with AA/AF.. its going to be unmatched. "
Looks like we might find out tomorrow. Might want to keep your fat mouth shut for a bit
Given the fact that it doesn't even meet the compettion with regards to HDR+AA and angle independent AF, how can it possibly be unmatched in AA/AF?
5150Joker
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Are there any benchmarks that run the 7950 GX2 with HQ AF + TRSSAA vs the XTX? We all know the default quality AF of the 7900 series sucks balls (yes I own a 7900 card now).
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You are deflecting the argument, but whatever I'll allow that and follow along..
HDR+AA is meaningless with todays current performance levels, unless you have X1900 Crossfire which then you deal with extreme heat, noise and power consumption. Even then, review sites are showing it to slow for high resolutions (such as 19x12) which is what most people with Xfire run.
Regardless of that point, no current games that anyone is still playing support it. Oblivion can do it through a hack from ATI. Until the dev integrates that code into a patch, it will always be an unsupported hack.
Im not trying to degrade it per se.. but it is what it is.
The biggest issue is that Oblivion is the only attractive game that can use ATIs HDR+AA.
Being from a 3rd party hack is not a bonus, while it doenst bother me.. it is a shame. But its still just 1 game of very, very, very many on the market.
Not much of a selling point.
I'm not going to sit here and argue about HDR+AA on ATI though, its very silly to continue discussing this..
To ATI fans having hack support with 1 major game is the 2nd coming of Christ.. and to the rest of us.. it just is what it is (which isnt much to speak of, esp considering the slow performance HDR+AA.. its a next gen feature due to ATIs horrid performance while using it).
Now that I've said my piece on HDR+AA I'm not going to continue discussing ATIs attrocious HDR+AA performance.
To cut to the chase here-
As far as performance/image quality.. dual 7900GTs have always outmatched any single card from ATI.. and that was never disputed.
Why the sudden change of heart on the 7950GX2? Its even better than dual 7900GTs in nearly every aspect.. and will someday have quadSLI enabled.
Ye sound a bit bitter nitromullet. "Losing an eye" from NV's AF? LOL.. I lost an eye from ATIs horrid AA!!! Lets get real around here, my fellow nerds..
If you really think your X1900XTX is better than two 7900GTs, you're on crack. So I dont know why you are attempting to allude to the idea that somehow the X1900XTX is better than a 7950GX2.
Actually I have the choice between buying 2 7900GTs and one X1900XTX and I am absolutely going with the X1900XTX.
XTX is as fast as 7900GT sli in a majority of benchmarks in AT article, and by that I mean within 1-3fps which is easily surpassed by a little ocing. You can OC the 7900GT but you need dual slot cooling and a volt mod to make it a significant OC and that is not doable with two cards in SLI, for me at least. Not to mention 7900 RMA issues
XTX is as fast as 7900gt sli in most cases, has absolutely superior image quality (I OWN a 7800GTX) and has better features.
XTX is as fast as 7900GT sli in a majority of benchmarks in AT article, and by that I mean within 1-3fps which is easily surpassed by a little ocing. You can OC the 7900GT but you need dual slot cooling and a volt mod to make it a significant OC and that is not doable with two cards in SLI, for me at least. Not to mention 7900 RMA issues
XTX is as fast as 7900gt sli in most cases, has absolutely superior image quality (I OWN a 7800GTX) and has better features.
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